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Hench Mutant
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It didn't bother me. As a kid I think I was far more excepting to changes. I think a lot of kids aren't bothered by this, it isn't until we grow up that we develop all of these standards.
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Mad Scientist
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I cant remember my response to the difference in the character portrayal of Raph.
But I can't remember disliking it. It might have felt overall "grown up" or something... but it was the Turtles. That was reason enough to like it. I mean, Mikey was hardly the surfer guy he was in the cartoon. And, really, he didn't have THAT many lines in the movie compared to the others. |
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It wasn't until SOTO that they really started to embody their Fred Wolf characteristics. |
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Stone Warrior
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I loved Donnie as more of a grease monkey kinda guy, instead of the one who created portals to other dimensions and the like.
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I didn't notice the first time viewing it because my jaw was on the floor for most of the movie.
Years later I kinda wondered why he had such an edge but I liked that they changed it and it feels more natural to have a teen with an attitude problem among his other brothers. Makes for good sibling rivalry. |
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Since I STARTED with the movie before I ever saw(read- knew about) the Ot series, I didn't notice any difference until I actually discovered the toon later. Then I thought Raph was pretty cool in the cartoons, but I honestly liked him both ways. And he DID have some of the same snarky sarcasm in the movie, like when he is arguing with Leo over what to do about finding Splinter, or when he is in the park with Casey near the beginning. So there was a bit of the OT Raph in the movie, too. I actually like a blend of the two best, though. Sarcastic wise-guy with anger-management issues...... (Heh, he's like the Hulk, only he's ALWAYS green!!!)
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I was probably more shocked the turtles didn't have their matching color elbow and knee pads, their initials wasn't on their belts and that the foot soldiers were humans. Plus the origin. Only thing that shocked me about Raph he said damn twice.
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Thug
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Honestly, as a kid, I never picked a favourite Turtle from day 1 of Turtle Tracks, always had a balanced set of Turtles (mind you Don did get the shaft a bit...) but when the first movie hit theatres and I was introduced to THAT Raph........ I started to lean for the first time. I liked the change and that lean showed through in using him for the arcade game, later Turtles in Time for the SNES, Tournament Fighters and beyond (aka merch and toys)
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I was very shocked by the way Raphael was portrayed, as circa 1990 I had no idea of the comics' existence. The Raph I knew (from OT) was sarcastic and didn't seem to let anything get to him; he broke the fourth wall often and seemed to play off the emotions of the others (particularly Leonardo). When I saw the movie, however, Raph was suddenly depicted as angry and tormented. It was a culture shock for sure
As Powder implies too, the treatment of Donatello in the first film didn't do him justice. He is shown to have an interest in electronics and to be smart (he knows what a claustrophobic is for example, despite living his entire life in a sewer) but he isn't fully shown to be the technical turtle until SotO. It always annoyed me that he was Mikey's sidekick in the first film, rather than being properly developed. However, it saw a short film and it dealt mostly with Raph so I can't hold it against the movie. Donnie and Mikey generally seem to be the 'secondary turtles' unfortunately, despite the former being Laird's favourite. |
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Thank you. Everytime I mention this people always say "but in the original cartoon..." Doesn't matter the comic was first and that's how we were introduced to Raph. I like that Raph. Rob Paulsen is a great voice actor but he's a better Donnie than Raph which is one of the many reasons I find the NickTurtles series well done. That's why I liked Josh Pais' verson in the original TMNT movie. Classic Raph
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I do recall as a 4-year-old being shocked and moved by the dark tone, can't remember specifically about Raph.
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I loved it. At the time Ralph was probably my least favorite but then I loved the movie version. He's easy to relate to.
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Who's Ralph?
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i remember thinking that it was weird to see him cursing and so angry compared to the happy go lucky sarcastic rapheal I was used to. I think at the time I thought it was just because he lost his sai. rewatching it later in life I noticed that he does have his sarcastic moments though (a Jose Conseco bat? tell me you didn't pay money for this. ) like others have already said Donnie is who I was most surprised by because he just seemed off.no where in the movie is he made to seem like a technical genius and skateboarding seems like it should of been more mikey's thing. being voiced by Corey Feldman didn't help much either.
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plus real walking talking turtles, i didnt even realize Jim Henson who is my hero was attached till i was older
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Last edited by BigMike322; 09-10-2013 at 11:33 PM. |
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I think they meant Raph, but I'll post this pic up for future reference, since I see people make this mistake all the time.
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