Is the Yoshi kid in TMNT3 related to Hamato Yoshi?

[Jester]

Is Yoshi, like Whit seems to be with Casey, Hamato Yoshi's ancestor?

That's the question....

[Bo Staff.]

Originally Posted by Jester

Is Yoshi, like Whit seems to be with Casey, Hamato Yoshi's ancestor?

That's the question....

Gotcha. Thanks.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by bo staff

Wait...was the OP meaning that Yoshi was just an earlier incarnation of Hamato Yoshi? And not 20th century Hamato Yoshi himself?

relative most likely, great grandfather or something

[Garfield]

Originally Posted by Jester

You know....that's a very cool theory. Raphael told Yoshi to watch his temper, which becomes "Master Yoshi's 1'st rule" from Turtles 1. It really helps to make Turtles III more than the sum of it's parts...and it needs all the help it can get. I think I'm gonna use that logic to make TMNT III a better movie to me.

Yeah I like how it makes a full circle of it, (a paradox). And it shows how Raph has grown as a character by the end. I love the relationship between Raph and Yoshi. Raph being a bit of a mentor Big brother type and I think all the more for it if Yoshi was related Hamato Yoshi.

Sometimes, I'm a bit iffy about the time traveling stories where characters, out of all of the people in the world just so conveniently stumble upon their ancestors or progeny. TMNT III does the same I suppose, but its charming because of the ambiguity and that it developed some of the characters and had great character interaction.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

I'm just stating you're connecting a character to another character based on an (un)common given name (or his "first name") in Japan.

Or you can take in consideration that we meet Casey's ancestor, a familiar" rat. The time travel theme of meeting other ancestors does make it seem very likely that the kid Yoshi in TMNT 3 might be a member of the Hamato family.

Yoshi might be a regular given name in the family, stuff like that happens. My dad have given me and my brothers and sister similar names, based of past family members.

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

Saki is a bit more unique of a name, I think. You just don't hear too many people named Saki so if a character existed in that movie with the name, then that would open a whole new box of snakes.

Not really, Saki is a fairly common name. But it is a girl's name.

That is why Shredder was renamed in the Japanese dub to Sawaki, a proper boy's name

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Jester

You know....that's a very cool theory. Raphael told Yoshi to watch his temper, which becomes "Master Yoshi's 1'st rule" from Turtles 1. It really helps to make Turtles III more than the sum of it's parts...and it needs all the help it can get. I think I'm gonna use that logic to make TMNT III a better movie to me.

Heck...it may very much be implied. I wanna say that Whit is explicitly implied to be Casey Jones' ancestor. Norinaga and Kenshin very well may be Saki's ancestor, and Mitsu and Yosh may well be Hamatos. The bigger "WHA!?" is the implication that Yoshi and Saki may have had a shared ancestry.

That was exactly what I was thinking the first time I saw it- and the idea that they might have shared ancestors ties in nicely to the known history of the Foot clan. Yoshi has (usually) been depicted as a former member of the Foot, so why not? Most ninja clans were hereditary, after all! So "Yoshi" the kid might have been the one who began the "first rule" that Splinter taught them. Also, Kenshen and Mitsu were implied to end up uniting their families to end the rebellion, so that could have been the beginning of the Foot, maybe?
And although Whit was never implicitly stated to be Casey's ancestor, it sure looks that way from the way he seems to connect so easily with April- could be a case of history repeating itself.....

[Jester]

Maybe part of my thoughts on Yoshi being a common name among the Hamatos is tied to the fact that I'm Kevin Jr. and my son is Kevin the Third. No, not every Kevin is a McGill, but in my family, a lot (ok...just 3) are named Kevin.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

That makes sense, actually. It's possible that Hamato Yoshi was named for an ancestor. That is a common practice in some cultures, or has been, historically.

[darthwahl56]

Originally Posted by Jester

I guess I'm just reading into the film a seeming "theme" of ancestors. Whit is heavily implied to be Casey's ancestor...complete with April's recognition of him when they share a cell in Norinaga's palace. (and the rat...which I'm sure was just a throw away gag.) Again...neither of us is right. You chose to not see any connection, I seem to read WAY too much into said connection. It's all in good fun...and an attempt to make something more of a movie that gets no love.

When I was a kid I liked the movie, still do to an extent. I was glad that they actually used their weapons a bit more than in the second movie. Costumes should have been done by the Jim Henson company, would have helped.

The time theme was pretty cool, would have been cool to maybe get a quote or phrase from Splinter (from his master) that could have connected yoshi the kid to the pet rat, asking too much? Probably not much more than a rat learning ninja moves in a cage, then taking said moves and training turtles how to fight ninja style.

Also the action figure of Whit that came with a catapult came with a helmet fitting to make him look like Casey when he was being a goalie back with the soldiers in present day.