US Government Shutdown - Page 2

*Guitar_Raph* · 10-01-2013, 09:22 PM

*plastroncafe* · 10-01-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

As long as the post office and mail delivery functions as normal, this does not affect me in any way.

The last government shutdown happened way back in 1995 in November, and it came back up in January 1996...so it was only 2 months. I suppose something similar will happen now.

How nice for you.
I know quite a few people where the opposite of this is true, and two months without pay will ruin them.

And if that happens, and they have to file for bankruptcy, guess who gets to pay their debts for them: We do.

*Refractive Reflections* · 10-02-2013, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

It's mostly "non-essential" government workers who wind up furloughed. If anyone should have their pay withheld, it should be ALL of Congress...they seem pretty "non-essential" to me at the moment.

Hmm, so the big question here is, how can we (the citizens) make the furlough have a mandatory effect on the legislators' salaries? That would make things move quickly.

*Slade* · 10-02-2013, 06:43 AM

Well, I'll be going to work and not getting paid until all this is settled.

*blindturtle02* · 10-02-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

Well, I'll be going to work and not getting paid until all this is settled.

Oh man, sorry about that. That has to be very stressful. Hang in there and I'm hoping things get resolved sooner rather than later.

*Slade* · 10-02-2013, 09:12 AM

Yeah, it is. I have one more check coming that I hear is going to be five days short..

**Jester** · 10-02-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JYX

Hmm, so the big question here is, how can we (the citizens) make the furlough have a mandatory effect on the legislators' salaries? That would make things move quickly.

Sadly the 27th Amendment makes it impossible. Nice of them to insure their own paychecks....although, "we the people" had to ratify that amendment...and it took almost 200 years.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-02-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

No. They're not being paid in IOUs.

Pay back IOUs? That doesn't happen. Who the hell told you that?

Nobody. That's just what I thought. And I heard about the IOUs on HLN when I was watching about this stuff, so that's where my source came from.

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Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

Well, I'll be going to work and not getting paid until all this is settled.

That sucks for you, but I'm sure the idiots don't care about that. And the Republicans should learn that you can't do something twice. They tried this before and didn't win, yet their move is to try and defund a damn law that's already in effect and signed. It's not going to happen, so they should just get over it. And I don't see what they have to be angry about since it doesn't affect them anyway. They're exempt from the damn law, so why should they complain about it?

*Plasticplayhouse* · 10-02-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

How nice for you.
I know quite a few people where the opposite of this is true, and two months without pay will ruin them.

And if that happens, and they have to file for bankruptcy, guess who gets to pay their debts for them: We do.

not to mention, all the money those 800,000 people normally spend on rent, healthcare, utilities, groceries, clothing and supplies for their children, car payment, entertainment or services like landscaping, construction, cleaning services, etc. all of that money that would normally trickle down and help support the American economy as a whole is now missing

many others not associated with the federal govt will feel the pinch as well.

when all said and done, the fed govt should waive any late fees/penalties due to late payments on morguages/bills.

*Roseangelo* · 10-02-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

No. They're not being paid in IOUs.

Pay back IOUs? That doesn't happen. Who the hell told you that?

Yes, that does happen. Do your research before you get snarky. The bill to pay them with actual paychecks during the shutdown happened just Monday. Otherwise they'd be getting IOUs.

Washington Post Link

*Redeemer* · 10-02-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

They've stated multiple times that the military is getting paid.

Not all of them (I think), I believe it was mentioned that the active military will get paid, but those who are doing Non-Essential Intelligence are on Furlough they will not be paid. I am assuming that this is the National Guard or Reserves.
If I can find source I will post later, was watching CNN..

*Katie* · 10-02-2013, 12:29 PM

Active and reservists are being paid.....with actual checks and not IOU's.......and IOU means that the government owes whomever. Not whomever is owed the money would have to pay the government back.

I'm one of those who'd like to see congress lose their paychecks in a shut down. They'd learn to compromise then. Buncha babies. Can't even do their jobs. Let's fire them all.

*Refractive Reflections* · 10-02-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Sadly the 27th Amendment makes it impossible. Nice of them to insure their own paychecks....although, "we the people" had to ratify that amendment...and it took almost 200 years.

Well this country did have the 21st Amendment to repeal the 18th, and end prohibition. ...Maybe not as impossible as we think...?

*BubblyShell22* · 10-02-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie

Active and reservists are being paid.....with actual checks and not IOU's.......and IOU means that the government owes whomever. Not whomever is owed the money would have to pay the government back.

I'm one of those who'd like to see congress lose their paychecks in a shut down. They'd learn to compromise then. Buncha babies. Can't even do their jobs. Let's fire them all.

Totally agree with you there, Katie. They need to all be fired, or at least suspended without pay for not doing the jobs they were hired to do.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 10-02-2013, 02:14 PM

I found it ironic the Government was shut down the day GTA Online went live lol

*Redeemer* · 10-02-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie

Active and reservists are being paid.....with actual checks and not IOU's.......and IOU means that the government owes whomever. Not whomever is owed the money would have to pay the government back.

I'm one of those who'd like to see congress lose their paychecks in a shut down. They'd learn to compromise then. Buncha babies. Can't even do their jobs. Let's fire them all.

I didn't say activist weren't getting paid. The military was suppose to take IOU's, but Obama used an executive order to stop that and give them regular pay, but some non-essential reservest are not being paid right now. Hell they suspended reservist school funding a few months back, I dont even know if they ever re-enstated the funding for school.

Ok so yes Non-essential Reservist ARE NOT GETTING PAID! Will post link later
FTW: http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/228...1500-Civilians
http://www.koin.com/2013/10/01/1000-...es-furloughed/

Bottom line:Active Military gets paid, Non-Essential reservist are furlough aka not getting paid.

*shuriken* · 10-02-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

It's mostly "non-essential" government workers who wind up furloughed. If anyone should have their pay withheld, it should be ALL of Congress...they seem pretty "non-essential" to me at the moment.

YES. That's what I was thiking when I read about the shutdown.

*Lethal Lullaby* · 10-02-2013, 04:42 PM

My mom still has to go to work, but she isn't getting paid until this ends, too.

So the Congress still is getting paid, but they can't even do their bloody jobs? And is it true what i hear? That they're shutting it down longer then last time? (based upon what i saw in CyberCubed's post when he mentioned when the last one was)

**Jester** · 10-02-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lethal Lullaby

My mom still has to go to work, but she isn't getting paid until this ends, too.

So the Congress still is getting paid, but they can't even do their bloody jobs? And is it true what i hear? That they're shutting it down longer then last time? (based upon what i saw in CyberCubed's post when he mentioned when the last one was)

No one really knows how long it's gonna stay shuttered. If neither side can concede, then it may be a long time.

Nameless · 10-02-2013, 07:43 PM

"Sorry Folks the governments Closed. The moose outside should have told you"

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Lethal Lullaby Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,816	My mom still has to go to work, but she isn't getting paid until this ends, too. So the Congress still is getting paid, but they can't even do their bloody jobs? And is it true what i hear? That they're shutting it down longer then last time? (based upon what i saw in CyberCubed's post when he mentioned when the last one was)

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