Official Episode Discussion: S2 #1 "The Mutation Situation" - Page 7

FoxZerro · 10-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Can we take a moment from all the hating on the episode and talk about how beautifully done the raining mutagen containers were. That was seriously just such an amazing visual... Even if based on the speed and trajectory of the stealth ship it would. Have never happened as beautifully.

Still since it felt the whole episode was about those canisters falling and the start of the mutagen situation story arc. I think they at least gave us some pay off in that moment.

Keroscene · 10-12-2013, 05:17 PM

Who needs Mikey to be sensitive when we've got the whole damn fandom being so oversensitive? Pfft. His reactions were funny and I don't see the problem with them at all. Kirby's still a bat, regardless of whether people dance around the issue or not.

It was a really good episode. I'm glad they've set up a reason for new mutants to keep showing up throughout the season and April's meltdown at the end was both shocking and completely understandable at the same time.

*BabyTurtles* · 10-12-2013, 05:24 PM

so the new writer wrote the episode, Brandon Auman? :3

he did a good job......but he needs to work out his Mikey >:U

I'll be watching you....

*Coola Yagami* · 10-12-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

"What's with the inconsistent Mutagen?" REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

It's literally called 'Mutagen'. Do you know what that even is? It mutates organisms. Mutations are some of the most inconsistent scientific reactions - they pretty much do whatever the hell they want!

So why can the turtles talk and have enough focus to be able to be trained in martial arts? Why aren't they random growling monsters covered in spikes and such?

*BabyTurtles* · 10-12-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

So why can the turtles talk and have enough focus to be able to be trained in martial arts? Why aren't they random growling monsters covered in spikes and such?

because the mutagen is random :3

Pigeon Pete was able to talk and think and be calm

so the Turtles and Splinter just got extremely lucky XD

so did Bradford and Xever

not so much Timothy.....and Kirby.

*NinjaMan* · 10-12-2013, 06:09 PM

Minus his temper Leatherhead is lucky.

*Coola Yagami* · 10-12-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaMan

Minus his temper Leatherhead is lucky.

That's interesting and I never thought of it until now, but Leatherhead walks the fine line between being a sentient talking mutant and being a mindless monster mutant.

LH · 10-12-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

That's interesting and I never thought of it until now, but Leatherhead walks the fine line between being a sentient talking mutant and being a mindless monster mutant.

Leatherhead's fits of anger seem to be a result of the Kraang's efforts to try and control his mind. The way I see it, his mutation alone came with his intelligence and personality(like the turtles and splinter)... However, because the Kraang were trying to crack his mind during their experiments to use him as a living weapon("They could not break my spirit"), it's left his brain damaged. His mind is healing though... and he's getting better at controlling it.

Slime State Alumni · 10-12-2013, 07:21 PM

I thought the season premiere was great; it perfectly sets up the major story arc for this season along with other potential arcs (mutagen creating more mutant villains/allies, the turtles having to collect all of the lost mutagen, repairing their relationship with April, finding a cure for Kirby, Shredder leaving for Japan, the Foot's dynamic with the Kraang, the introduction to Casey Jones, etc). It's a perfect way to set things in motion, which is what a sophomore season opener should be like. I'm very excited how all of it plays out over the course of this season.

Technogeek29 · 10-12-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

"What's with the inconsistent Mutagen?" REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

It's literally called 'Mutagen'. Do you know what that even is? It mutates organisms. Mutations are some of the most inconsistent scientific reactions - they pretty much do whatever the hell they want!

Two average joe's can retain their sentience but a man with a PhD can't? OK....

*blindturtle02* · 10-12-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kelligrafie

Actually, maybe it's just me but I think owning up to something and then saying, don't worry, we'll do our best to straighten things out, seems to be more mature than acting like you had nothing to do with it...

The way it's been written would point to kids that lying is the way out of a difficult situation, which it isn't.

Eventually April (or ones parents for that matter) would discover the truth and be more disappointed and angry.

I agree. My better half was thinking the same thing as well. Mikey was actually big enough to own up to their mistakes. I was expecting Don to be the one to up and tell her, so I think it was very mature of Mikey to tell the truth. She probably would have been even more upset had they waited longer to tell her. Besides, lying by omission is a very dangerous thing to do period. It is a Very poor foundation on which to build any lasting relationship. So kudos to Mikey.

*Ninjinister* · 10-12-2013, 07:24 PM

They need to introduce an actual Cottage Cheese Demon now.

LH · 10-12-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blindturtle02

I agree. My better half was thinking the same thing as well. Mikey was actually big enough to own up to their mistakes. I was expecting Don to be the one to up and tell her, so I think it was very mature of Mikey to tell the truth. She probably would have been even more upset had they waited longer to tell her. Besides, lying by omission is a very dangerous thing to do period. It is a Very poor foundation on which to build any lasting relationship. So kudos to Mikey.

Yeah, Mikey's honesty is definitely one of his positive character traits. Remember when the Turtle's lost the power-cell and Leatherhead said he trusted they did all they could to protect it? Mikey was going to be honest with him had Raph not stopped him.

*blindturtle02* · 10-12-2013, 07:30 PM

Yeah there ya go, LH. That moment really stood out to me too. I'd forgotten about that on top of all the studying I've been doing. Great example.

Slime State Alumni · 10-12-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blindturtle02

I agree. My better half was thinking the same thing as well. Mikey was actually big enough to own up to their mistakes. I was expecting Don to be the one to up and tell her, so I think it was very mature of Mikey to tell the truth. She probably would have been even more upset had they waited longer to tell her. Besides, lying by omission is a very dangerous thing to do period. It is a Very poor foundation on which to build any lasting relationship. So kudos to Mikey.

I don't think Mikey was being the bigger person in this case. I think the writers have consistently made a point that Mikey is the least mature/intelligent of the group. He told April the truth because he didn't know any better and thought nothing of it until he realized it was a mistake.

FoxZerro · 10-12-2013, 07:41 PM

Sitting here at work I realized this whole story arc could result in the ooze launching turtles action figure designs actually making an appearance in the show. You have the final episode of the arc see a huge outbreak of mutants rioting through out New York and Donatello designing the ooze launchers as a way to distribute his newly developed anti-mutagen (which he used to restore Tim) an contain the outbreak.

Heck I can even hear Donatello say now "the only problem is if we come into contact with even a drop of this stuff (gulp) it's back to the pet store."

I can also see having to use up the entire supply of the anti-mutagen to stop the outbreak as a way to explain away why Splinter is forced to stay mutated and it also act as an explanation for why Dogpound, Fishface, etc. are left mutated as well.

Not to mention the fact that the anti-mutagen is unable to be replicated because a significant ingredient was something Tim secreted as the Mutagen Man.

*blindturtle02* · 10-12-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

They need to introduce an actual Cottage Cheese Demon now.

Well you never know. I'd buy the action figure. Although he'd have to come packaged with the evil clown from Mikey's dream about being a rodeo detective. Cheese demons really sound disturbing though lol. I'm beginning to wonder if Mikey's growing something down there in his room.

*drgon78* · 10-12-2013, 07:47 PM

I loved the episode especially the part with April being angry at the guys. I like the fight with the Biodroid thing as well.

Is it me or does April look better animated and has more facial range?

**Jester** · 10-12-2013, 08:31 PM

So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now....

*BabyTurtles* · 10-12-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now....

>:u I'm still blaming the new writer!! but we shall see~ hopefully NOT.

I also wonder how long April's gonna stay mad at them?? cause she's gonna let Mikey take care of her kitty.....so it can't be TOO long right? XD

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10-12-2013, 05:24 PM	#123
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	so the new writer wrote the episode, Brandon Auman? :3 he did a good job......but he needs to work out his Mikey >:U I'll be watching you.... __________________

10-12-2013, 07:24 PM	#132
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,347	They need to introduce an actual Cottage Cheese Demon now. __________________

10-12-2013, 07:30 PM	#134
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Yeah there ya go, LH. That moment really stood out to me too. I'd forgotten about that on top of all the studying I've been doing. Great example. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

10-12-2013, 08:31 PM	#139
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,292	So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-12-2013, 05:02 PM	#121
FoxZerro Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 574	Can we take a moment from all the hating on the episode and talk about how beautifully done the raining mutagen containers were. That was seriously just such an amazing visual... Even if based on the speed and trajectory of the stealth ship it would. Have never happened as beautifully. Still since it felt the whole episode was about those canisters falling and the start of the mutagen situation story arc. I think they at least gave us some pay off in that moment.

10-12-2013, 05:17 PM	#122
Keroscene Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 122	Who needs Mikey to be sensitive when we've got the whole damn fandom being so oversensitive? Pfft. His reactions were funny and I don't see the problem with them at all. Kirby's still a bat, regardless of whether people dance around the issue or not. It was a really good episode. I'm glad they've set up a reason for new mutants to keep showing up throughout the season and April's meltdown at the end was both shocking and completely understandable at the same time.

10-12-2013, 06:09 PM	#126
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Minus his temper Leatherhead is lucky.

10-12-2013, 07:21 PM	#129
Slime State Alumni Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Slime City Posts: 458	I thought the season premiere was great; it perfectly sets up the major story arc for this season along with other potential arcs (mutagen creating more mutant villains/allies, the turtles having to collect all of the lost mutagen, repairing their relationship with April, finding a cure for Kirby, Shredder leaving for Japan, the Foot's dynamic with the Kraang, the introduction to Casey Jones, etc). It's a perfect way to set things in motion, which is what a sophomore season opener should be like. I'm very excited how all of it plays out over the course of this season.

10-12-2013, 07:41 PM	#136
FoxZerro Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 574	Sitting here at work I realized this whole story arc could result in the ooze launching turtles action figure designs actually making an appearance in the show. You have the final episode of the arc see a huge outbreak of mutants rioting through out New York and Donatello designing the ooze launchers as a way to distribute his newly developed anti-mutagen (which he used to restore Tim) an contain the outbreak. Heck I can even hear Donatello say now "the only problem is if we come into contact with even a drop of this stuff (gulp) it's back to the pet store." I can also see having to use up the entire supply of the anti-mutagen to stop the outbreak as a way to explain away why Splinter is forced to stay mutated and it also act as an explanation for why Dogpound, Fishface, etc. are left mutated as well. Not to mention the fact that the anti-mutagen is unable to be replicated because a significant ingredient was something Tim secreted as the Mutagen Man.

10-12-2013, 07:47 PM	#138
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,399	I loved the episode especially the part with April being angry at the guys. I like the fight with the Biodroid thing as well. Is it me or does April look better animated and has more facial range?