A fan base more divided than Ninja Turtle fans? - Page 3

*Andrew NDB* · 10-25-2013, 04:28 PM

Yeah, the vagina protector on New 52 Supergirl is almost as weird as the knee business. It's just a sh*t design. DC needs to start letting actual costume designers design some cool costumes... not just lock Jim Lee in a room to do it.

*blindturtle02* · 10-25-2013, 04:28 PM

I think you can find this type of thing in every fandom. I've tried to join a few SW forums since I'm also an avid Star Wars fan. You get allot of folks pouncing on you whether or not you like the original trilogy or prequels. All that stuff. I think differences in opinion should be welcome no matter where you go on the Net, but I doubt that'll ever happen. I love it when I come across more mature individuals who may not share the same views, but who choose to listen to and respect other views regardless. I think everyone has a right to be heard. But I think a person can go entirely too far when they choose to bully others just because they may not enjoy a particular toon, comic, etc. Differences in opinion/perspective can actually cause a person to appreciate any franchise in an entirely new way if one takes the time to listen and learn. It's cool if there are varying viewpoints. I think they all fit together into one heck of a tapestry, if that makes sense.

*miru* · 10-25-2013, 04:30 PM

Doctor Who, Sonic, Transformers, Fallout, Spyro, Zelda, and SpongeBob

Technogeek29 · 10-25-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, the vagina protector on New 52 Supergirl is almost as weird as the knee business. It's just a sh*t design. DC needs to start letting actual costume designers design some cool costumes... not just lock Jim Lee in a room to do it.

And for the love of God please get rid of the Color red on most of DC's heroes. Seriously The color red is every where. I don't mind Nightwing but personally would've left it Blue or change it to Purple.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-25-2013, 04:41 PM

There are a lot of fandoms that have feuds about certain things. You have the Twilight fandom with Team Edward vs. Team Jacob, the Harry Potter fandom with the whole Harry/Hermione vs. Ron/Hermione feud (though I think that's died down from what it used to be), The Hunger Games with Team Peeta vs. Team Gale, and that's all I can think of. But, yeah, TMNT is divided sometimes though I think what really mars it is the whole "Which series do you like better?" type questions we've been getting lately. That just bugs me to no end.

*BabyTurtles* · 10-25-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I'd probably fall for it.

Some people are very easily distracted.

are you trying to say wearing a mini skirt is actually helpful?

~~Leo656~~ · 10-25-2013, 04:54 PM

That's creepy. Stop it.

And it totally depends who you're fighting, naturally... I'm not making this up, the entire "Dead Or Alive" game franchise is based on that very logic!

*BabyTurtles* · 10-25-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

That's creepy. Stop it.

And it totally depends who you're fighting, naturally... I'm not making this up, the entire "Dead Or Alive" game franchise is based on that very logic!

didn't know what dead or alive was XD google imaged it.....

girls in bikinis?? lolz XD

~~Leo656~~ · 10-25-2013, 05:07 PM

You don't even know the half of it.

YouTube has some of the official TV commercials for the games. Seemingly the entire franchise is built around the concept that, yes, mini-skirts make you an unstoppable female warrior.

It got turned into a movie starring Kevin Nash and Jamie Pressley, so who am I to argue with that kind of logic? Mini-skirts + split-jumps and high-kicks = $$$

*blindturtle02* · 10-25-2013, 05:07 PM

Now that's interesting. Never thought of it that way Leo and Babyturtles.

"Now, miniskirt whering hero girl! While he's distracted! Get his pin number! Woohoo!" Yeah they could do that as well as beat the stuffing out of people, I guess. But would that work on Daredevil?

*BabyTurtles* · 10-25-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

You don't even know the half of it.

YouTube has some of the official TV commercials for the games. Seemingly the entire franchise is built around the concept that, yes, mini-skirts make you an unstoppable female warrior.

It got turned into a movie starring Kevin Nash and Jamie Pressley, so who am I to argue with that kind of logic?

not fair!! if guys get a game with fighting bikini chicks, then I want t game with guys fighting in only tuxedoes >:U

*blindturtle02* · 10-25-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

not fair!! if guys get a game with fighting bikini chicks, then I want t game with guys fighting in only tuxedoes >:U

Give em a couple years. Someone'll release it eventually.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-25-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blindturtle02

But would that work on Daredevil?

I'm tempted to say "echo location", but that would only work if he only fought porn starlets. Plus, that's just offensively vulgar.

And I'm sure the as-yet-untapped Tuxedo Fighting Game market has been held back by the quandary of what percentage of fighters get bow ties, how many get top hats, and how many get both. Also, cummerbunds and wingtips are apparently harder to consistently animate than leopard-print thong bikinis. I'm sure they're working on it.

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-25-2013, 05:30 PM

Leo, I am actualy disappointed in the new 52 Batman direction. I loved everything from R.I.P. to the Batman INC bookend with Leviathian. Greeen Lantern was low until the marriage of Hal and Sinestro going back to the way it should back in February and now is interesting even if Relic is half-Krona/half-first Lantern.It makes me love IDW and Superior much more if its any constellation. I wonder when the lobng talk about Multiversity starring Blue & Gold will come out?

Some times pants make all the difference. Look at Tim's first Robin costume a simple armor upgrade with full pants. Wonder why Jerry Robin put the green shorts on him for.

Andrew,I realize we disagree more than anyone but could you post an example of a costume design you want to see? I think we would agree.

Avatar Yuffie · 10-25-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

not fair!! if guys get a game with fighting bikini chicks, then I want t game with guys fighting in only tuxedoes >:U

Tuxedos? Hell no.

Give guys battle bikini briefs like FFXIV.

Oh yeah. Who cares if it doesn't look like practical armor in an adventure game?

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind the fan service so much as long as the game gives candies to the girl players too.

*CyberCubed* · 10-25-2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Really? TMNT is the worst you guys have seen?
Man, you need to get out into fandom more, kids.

Haha, I agree. The TMNT fandom is the most tame fandom I've ever been a part of.

You guys should see the Pokemon fandom, with the whiny nostalgics complaining everytime a new gen begins and how much they hate the new Pokemon designs.

And then you have those whiny Misty fans who, after an entire decade, are still sitting there butt-hurt over Misty leaving the anime. Despite Misty not being an important character to the show or games in the slightest...

*snake* · 10-25-2013, 09:19 PM

Star wars. PT Fans and OT fans are mortal enemies.

*Cipher* · 10-26-2013, 10:43 AM

Re: New 52 costumes.

I actually don't have a problem with most of them and think the gripes have been overstated.

That said, Supergirl's has to be among the worst -- the worst -- superhero costumes of all time. I can't even look at it, because it looks like she's wearing no pants and just has some sort of ... I guess vagina-protector is the best term ... strapped from her ass to her front. It's shockingly bad. Give her some damn shorts.

*blindturtle02* · 10-26-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Star wars. PT Fans and OT fans are mortal enemies.

lol what about fans of the entire saga? I like both trilogies! Still don't know where I fit into the mix.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-27-2013, 12:04 AM

"The only question, I ever thought was hard, was do I like Kirk, or do I like Picard?"

There are a lot of video game fan bases that are pretty divided. Scrolling through TV Tropes for examples. Like Legend of Zelda. Some people hate Zelda II because it's so different from the rest, but that's why others (like me) enjoy it. The fact that it stands out because there was no "standard" Zelda game at the time makes it cool.

I think DC Comics was much better before the New 52. If DC wanted to improve sales, they could have, I don't know, actually tried to market to people outside the normal comic buying circles. This didn't require a reboot. Batman and Superman are established characters, people know their origins well. I could see new readers warming up to Stephanie Brown Batgirl pretty easily. That series was the best thing DC had in years. Her relationships with Kara and Damien were a lot of fun to read.

As far as Supergirl designs go, I thought the pre-new 52 costume was alright. Not when Kara first returned, because it was all way too short, but later artists drew it so that the skirt was longer and I thought it looked better.

10-25-2013, 04:28 PM	#41
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,506	Yeah, the vagina protector on New 52 Supergirl is almost as weird as the knee business. It's just a sh*t design. DC needs to start letting actual costume designers design some cool costumes... not just lock Jim Lee in a room to do it. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-25-2013, 04:28 PM	#42
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	I think you can find this type of thing in every fandom. I've tried to join a few SW forums since I'm also an avid Star Wars fan. You get allot of folks pouncing on you whether or not you like the original trilogy or prequels. All that stuff. I think differences in opinion should be welcome no matter where you go on the Net, but I doubt that'll ever happen. I love it when I come across more mature individuals who may not share the same views, but who choose to listen to and respect other views regardless. I think everyone has a right to be heard. But I think a person can go entirely too far when they choose to bully others just because they may not enjoy a particular toon, comic, etc. Differences in opinion/perspective can actually cause a person to appreciate any franchise in an entirely new way if one takes the time to listen and learn. It's cool if there are varying viewpoints. I think they all fit together into one heck of a tapestry, if that makes sense. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

10-25-2013, 04:30 PM	#43
miru Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,874	Doctor Who, Sonic, Transformers, Fallout, Spyro, Zelda, and SpongeBob __________________ Proud Digimon nut.

10-25-2013, 04:41 PM	#45
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	There are a lot of fandoms that have feuds about certain things. You have the Twilight fandom with Team Edward vs. Team Jacob, the Harry Potter fandom with the whole Harry/Hermione vs. Ron/Hermione feud (though I think that's died down from what it used to be), The Hunger Games with Team Peeta vs. Team Gale, and that's all I can think of. But, yeah, TMNT is divided sometimes though I think what really mars it is the whole "Which series do you like better?" type questions we've been getting lately. That just bugs me to no end. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-25-2013, 05:07 PM	#50
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Now that's interesting. Never thought of it that way Leo and Babyturtles. "Now, miniskirt whering hero girl! While he's distracted! Get his pin number! Woohoo!" Yeah they could do that as well as beat the stuffing out of people, I guess. But would that work on Daredevil? __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

10-25-2013, 04:54 PM	#47
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	That's creepy. Stop it. And it totally depends who you're fighting, naturally... I'm not making this up, the entire "Dead Or Alive" game franchise is based on that very logic!

10-25-2013, 05:07 PM	#49
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	You don't even know the half of it. YouTube has some of the official TV commercials for the games. Seemingly the entire franchise is built around the concept that, yes, mini-skirts make you an unstoppable female warrior. It got turned into a movie starring Kevin Nash and Jamie Pressley, so who am I to argue with that kind of logic? Mini-skirts + split-jumps and high-kicks = $$$

10-25-2013, 05:30 PM	#54
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Leo, I am actualy disappointed in the new 52 Batman direction. I loved everything from R.I.P. to the Batman INC bookend with Leviathian. Greeen Lantern was low until the marriage of Hal and Sinestro going back to the way it should back in February and now is interesting even if Relic is half-Krona/half-first Lantern.It makes me love IDW and Superior much more if its any constellation. I wonder when the lobng talk about Multiversity starring Blue & Gold will come out? Some times pants make all the difference. Look at Tim's first Robin costume a simple armor upgrade with full pants. Wonder why Jerry Robin put the green shorts on him for. Andrew,I realize we disagree more than anyone but could you post an example of a costume design you want to see? I think we would agree. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon! Last edited by MikeandRaph87; 10-25-2013 at 07:57 PM.

10-25-2013, 09:19 PM	#57
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Star wars. PT Fans and OT fans are mortal enemies.

10-26-2013, 10:43 AM	#58
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	Re: New 52 costumes. I actually don't have a problem with most of them and think the gripes have been overstated. That said, Supergirl's has to be among the worst -- the worst -- superhero costumes of all time. I can't even look at it, because it looks like she's wearing no pants and just has some sort of ... I guess vagina-protector is the best term ... strapped from her ass to her front. It's shockingly bad. Give her some damn shorts.

10-27-2013, 12:04 AM	#60
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	"The only question, I ever thought was hard, was do I like Kirk, or do I like Picard?" There are a lot of video game fan bases that are pretty divided. Scrolling through TV Tropes for examples. Like Legend of Zelda. Some people hate Zelda II because it's so different from the rest, but that's why others (like me) enjoy it. The fact that it stands out because there was no "standard" Zelda game at the time makes it cool. I think DC Comics was much better before the New 52. If DC wanted to improve sales, they could have, I don't know, actually tried to market to people outside the normal comic buying circles. This didn't require a reboot. Batman and Superman are established characters, people know their origins well. I could see new readers warming up to Stephanie Brown Batgirl pretty easily. That series was the best thing DC had in years. Her relationships with Kara and Damien were a lot of fun to read. As far as Supergirl designs go, I thought the pre-new 52 costume was alright. Not when Kara first returned, because it was all way too short, but later artists drew it so that the skirt was longer and I thought it looked better.