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Old 12-18-2013, 02:11 PM   #81
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An officer and a gentleman, apparently.
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #82
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I think it's funny people here are using a quote from the Nostalgia Critic to diss a bunch of "whiners," when he, himself, whines about movies.
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:45 PM   #83
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Old 12-18-2013, 07:34 PM   #84
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I don't know why they decided to change Shredder's name/origin. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised but it doesn't really sound menacing to me, just goofy. Every time I hear "Eric Sachs" I'm reminded of the Beavis and Butt-head episode where they prank call "Harry Sachs". It's one of the silliest names ever.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:29 AM   #85
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Literally praying hes a Utrom and thats the drastic change in story they talking about, time to bring out dimension x in these movies.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:55 AM   #86
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But Utroms don't come from Dimension X. Except in IDW.

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time to bring out dimension x in these movies.
In which movies? All of them? The ones to come? Either way no, no it's not time for that all... but it seems like that is absolutely the route they're taking.
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:15 AM   #87
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But Utroms don't come from Dimension X. Except in IDW.



In which movies? All of them? The ones to come? Either way no, no it's not time for that all... but it seems like that is absolutely the route they're taking.
Are they really from Dimension X? I assume a different planet and the Neutrino teleporter was a way to cover vast distances through space.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:39 AM   #88
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Are they really from Dimension X? I assume a different planet and the Neutrino teleporter was a way to cover vast distances through space.
That's only on the IDW series. In mirage I'm not sure they ever name where they come from other than 'the Utrom home world'. There were no neutrinos in mirage.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:14 AM   #89
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That's only on the IDW series. In mirage I'm not sure they ever name where they come from other than 'the Utrom home world'. There were no neutrinos in mirage.
That's what I mean't but I worded it badly. Krang from the OT (if we want to call him an Utrom) is the only one from Dimension X
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While I am thankful for this bit of info, I have to say this: are you guys seriously going through all of this again? Haven't you regurgitated these same responses to Fichtner and others saying almost the exact same thing? Don't we have anything new to say or at least the ability to refrain from verbatim replies to the same info? I'm sorry to rant, but I'm just feeling annoyed. Unleash your anger on me now.
haha...my thoughts exactly

it doesn't matter what piece of news comes out about this movie, the same responses from the same people always come up
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:08 PM   #91
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It's gonna suck... so I'll get a front row seat to see how much it will suck.

IMO Karai shouldn't even be in this. She just doesn't work while Shredder is still alive, without being demoted to being a lacky or a relative. I doubt the two even met in Mirage.

TMNT unlike anything we ever seen before... probably cause they'll be wearing that dumbass armor we heard about. And cuz they'll have the Micheal Bay sense of humor with masturbation jokes, special brownies and comments about which one will nail April first.

And... why did they suddenly turn Sue and Johnny Storm black....? Look I get it. These comics are way old when back then everyone was white.... but like... that's just the way it was back then and those characters continue to exist today. Either do em right or don't do em at all. Or go all the way and bring us a black Superman and a Mexican Batman. Noone knew much about Kingpin, Nick Fury or Electro before they got 'blackwashed???' so I guess people don't make such a big deal... but if you really wanna make a statement about equality and all that, change the race of the MAIN CHARACTERS. If anyone whines about 'but Spider-Man is supposed to be white' you can shut up and tell them 'so is Electro, what's your point?'
why would you buy a ticket to a movie, when you're full aware of it sucking before you even see it?
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:19 PM   #92
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Krang from the OT (if we want to call him an Utrom)
You shouldn't. He's a member of the Krangazoids, isn't it? There was a planet of them on the OT, yeah?
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:27 PM   #93
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That's only on the IDW series. In mirage I'm not sure they ever name where they come from other than 'the Utrom home world'. There were no neutrinos in mirage.
IDW implicitly mentions the Neutrino planet and Utrominom as being in Dimension X. Not sure why it's necessary to have them in an alternate dimension, though, beyond just some slavish need by IDW to adhere to things that are expected from the Fred Wolf cartoon. It could just as easily be in our galaxy or the next.

In Mirage the Utrom homeworld is never named but yes, it's just deeper into our own galaxy, not in any alternate dimension. The Transmat in Mirage only teleports across space, not dimensions/realities. There's even a big map in the Palladium TMNT: Guide to the Universe that illustrates where the Triceratons are, where the Utrom homeworld is, where Earth is relative to it, etc.:



In TMNT Part 5 Dimension X had been a big part of the previous script and, particularly factoring that we're talking about a production with a modus operandi that has replaced Casey Jones with Vernon Fenwicke... I wholly expect Dimension X is not something that has been written away with.
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Why do people behind this film keep trying to assure fans upset with the film that "these are unlike any Turtles you've ever seen"?

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Old 12-19-2013, 01:48 PM   #95
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Why do people behind this film keep trying to assure fans upset with the film that "these unlike any Turtles you've ever seen"?
If they were just talking about previous movies and cartoons and stuff that would be fine by me. But it kind of goes like this in interview circles:

Fans: The script sounds terrible!

TMNT Part 5 Cast/Crew: But the Turtles look really awesome!

Fans: Vernon is in it, and he replaced Casey Jones... wtf?!

TMNT Part 5 Cast/Crew: But these are Turtles like you've never seen them before!

Fans: We have concerns about Shredder being a white guy.

TMNT Part 5 Cast/Crew: This is the darkest Shredder you've ever seen!

Fans: But he's white.

TMNT Part 5 Cast/Crew: The action is going to be intense! It's Michael Bay so you know it will be wild!

Fans: But Michael Bay films aren't known for their quality... a lot of people are concerned this will just turn out to be some kind of Transformers/bastardized Fred Wolf TMNT cartoon hybrid.

TMNT Part 5 Cast/Crew: But wait'll you see those Turtles! They look amazing!

Fans: Ummm...

Is kind of how it's going.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #96
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No matter what the turtles look like I think white Eric Sachs shredder will forever taint this film.

This is something we'll all look back on years from now and ask, "What the hell were they thinking?" In fact we're ALREADY asking that.

I hate the name they chose for him too, simply because a white guy wouldn't have a Japanese name like Oroku saki. Eric Sachs screams of whitewashing supremacy. Sickening.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:09 AM   #97
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....i don't give a damn if he's white. i'm passed that now. i just want shredder to be a sick and evil bastard. the kind who would keep you in chains. the kind who would brutally beat you on a daily basis, torture the **** out of you.

then prolongs the torture by giving you hints that your love ones are being watched, and anyday, any time they would be murdered, or even horrendously tortured. honestly i think they're gonna give him a nazi origin like in the original script. it irks me once, but he could have a nazi/japanese family connection.

that or he could be an utron alien, like in the 2003 series. those kids who grew up with that will recognize that for sure.

or he could be a re-incarceration of shredder like in the IDW comics.

the possibilities are endless.

all in all....it'll make money. because its TMNT.
Hell...the transformers are horrible, but they make **** loads of money.

we're getting a 4th movie. its making money. and kids will eat it up.

personally i think young kids are the new blood.

i dont bitch about the films. because what movies do is make kids (and teen fan girls) curious of the previous films or shows and will watch.

when i have a child, he'll or she'll watch all kinds of tmnt shows, and movies.
the most important thing to me is keeping the fandom alive regardless of which show that child is watching currently.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:45 AM   #98
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My excitement for this film died a long time ago. That's why I have mostly not posted anything opinion wise or otherwise, about it as of late. Yeah, the turtles effects should look good. So what? It may be just fluff. Cotton candy pretty fluff. It deserves better. Yes, It will hopefully make it's watchers more curious about the TMNT, where they came from, who the characters are. That's the only thing I see in a kind of positive light concerning it.
But honestly, is this how I want the TMNT to been remembered and seen by future generations?

They could do so much more with the property if they would just spend some time with it. Not as a quick fattened cash cow, but as the inventive, unique property that it is. There is a wealth of greatness to the TMNT and a richness to it's personalities. If all they are concerned with is making crap loads of money, then why the hell won't they put a more solid effort into it? They would only make more money if they did. And that's looking at it from the greedy view point.

Perhaps they will surprise me in the end. We will know so enough.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:15 PM   #99
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we're getting a 4th movie. its making money. and kids will eat it up.
It's TMNT Part 5, not 4.
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It's TMNT Part 5, not 4.
I think he meant the transformers.
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