The designs of the Turtles is proof to never trust Kevin Eastman

[Leo656]

Upset SOME parents. Mine thought it was an affirmation that things for kids don't have to be JUST for kids. They liked the cartoon as a "ha ha, kids like goofy sh*t and this isn't bad" kind of thing, but enjoyed the film as a genuinely good movie. I've even screened it for people in their 50s and 60s who never knew about the cartoon, or heard of it but never saw it, mostly parents whose kids were into other stuff, and the movie plays well to them, too.

Only a small, but vocal group of parents really complained about the first movie's violence or tone. And they were the type who'd complain about skirts going above the ankle. Sadly, they tend to write letters while sane people just go "eh".

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

I agree about just not being content to have "new" TMNT. At Heroescon last year I asked an artist what he thought of the new Star Wars and told him I was HIGHLY skeptical of it and he said "man it's new Star Wars and that alone makes it awesome" but I don't feel that way at all. I see no need for a "dark" or "edgy" TMNT just for the sake of there being one. I would much rather have a film that is more in line with the original, which I feel like struck a perfect tone, that just tells a great story and captures the essence of the characters that we all love. I think it's possible to make a film that pleases the fans and still "appeals" to people that just want to watch a good action film. There's no need to alienate either side.

Exactly what I'm saying!

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

So why couldn't you?

Originally Posted by Leo656

Upset SOME parents. Mine thought it was an affirmation that things for kids don't have to be JUST for kids. They liked the cartoon as a "ha ha, kids like goofy sh*t and this isn't bad" kind of thing, but enjoyed the film as a genuinely good movie. I've even screened it for people in their 50s and 60s who never knew about the cartoon, or heard of it but never saw it, mostly parents whose kids were into other stuff, and the movie plays well to them, too.

Only a small, but vocal group of parents really complained about the first movie's violence or tone. And they were the type who'd complain about skirts going above the ankle. Sadly, they tend to write letters while sane people just go "eh".

My mom never had a probelm with the movie, its look, language, or violence.
She recently sat through the movie again when I was giving it another watch.
I dont think she would sit through TMNT 2 though.

[Kurai]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Only a small, but vocal group of parents really complained about the first movie's violence or tone. And they were the type who'd complain about skirts going above the ankle. Sadly, they tend to write letters while sane people just go "eh".

Small groups of parents making complaints are likely to make executives buckle. Back in 1997, 19 parents complained about an episode of ReBoot being 'Too Dark and Violent' to the UK broadcasting authority. As a result of that, the network airing the show stopped airing it about halfway through the third season with about 7 or so episodes left to air. Ever since then, they appear to get cold feet about shows that they're airing in case that they get parents complaining again (this same network aired the 2003 TMNT show over here as well, and apparently they didn't finish airing the third season of that show, and then went straight into the fourth season).

But yeah, I can kinda see now from other posts in this thread why things such as Turtle Christmas and Turtle Tunes were produced. They probably wanted to expand the brand a bit and see what would happen. However, they probably had no idea that they would be so awfully made.

[Living Silver]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

His heart isn't in it anymore.

Not true! He's been working hard on the new IDW comic (which kicks ass, btw). He drew the annual, which is the first Turtle's book he's every handled all of the art chores on. He draws variant covers for all of issues, consults on the book, draws fill-in issues and provides art for side projects.

He's very much involved with all of the new Turtles output lately, and everything that has surfaced so far has been AMAZING. If the movie sucks, it won't be his fault, so give him some slack. Who knows, maybe this new flick will be awesome.

[Raphael232]

I like the look, plus they will probably have a cleaner look in the movie. Some of you people are hilarious, they finally made a dark turtles movie that isnt just meant for kids to watch. Cant wait for a trailer.

[Sighphi]

It's probably part of a contract.
He got all that dosh but he cant go on discrediting the franchise or something.

[Jester]

But...they did that back in 1990, and they didn't resort to over redesigning the Turtles.

[turtlefanforever]

Nothing even gonna top it. Until the Blair witch trials it was the highest grossing low budget movie.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Upset SOME parents. Mine thought it was an affirmation that things for kids don't have to be JUST for kids. They liked the cartoon as a "ha ha, kids like goofy sh*t and this isn't bad" kind of thing, but enjoyed the film as a genuinely good movie. I've even screened it for people in their 50s and 60s who never knew about the cartoon, or heard of it but never saw it, mostly parents whose kids were into other stuff, and the movie plays well to them, too.

Only a small, but vocal group of parents really complained about the first movie's violence or tone. And they were the type who'd complain about skirts going above the ankle. Sadly, they tend to write letters while sane people just go "eh".

It's lame, those parents were such "joy kills" why did they let their kids watch it if was such a big deal. All they did is make the second movie weaker with pointless moaning. When the turtles used their weapons, they didn't exactly cut the foot to a bloody mess.

[Walkabout]

Just read through the letters in the Archie comics to see the mentality they were up against back then, people are calling them Satanists for showing the turtles meditating FFS.

How amusing it is that back in 1990 they managed to give us what ended up being the best TMNT film against all the adversity and now when you can do whatever on film and are theoretically in the best place ever to make the be all and end all of Turtle movies and this movie is what we are going to get.

NO, I haven't seen it yet-but it is going to suck.

Call me Cybercubed, call me his unholy gay bride (lol) -the guy is right, this movie is going to suck

[GenghisFrog]

A movie doesn't suck until it sucks. In fact, there's a real possibility that it exceeds my low expectations and I thoroughly enjoy it. Here's to hoping.

[Powder]

There's also a real possibility it's going to suck.

[Aaronardo]

I dunno which are the actual designs anymore. The ones on that poster are god-awful in my eyes, but there were some other designs found on a different website, and they actually look decent. But, forget that, it's meme time!

Sorry about the large pic size... I'll try to trim it down...

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by chrisguyver

Nope sorry just like transformers it will be a huge hit and make loads of money. Sorry dude but fanboys don't make up the majority of viewers that will be watching these movies.

Why would u want these movies to fail it just means more stuff for us fanboys. some fanboys make no sense some times..

quality over quantity my friend. why would you want something you don't find appealing to succeed if it means they'll just give you more content that takes cues from it. I don't know how the movie is going to stack up in the end but I do know I hope these jacked up turtle designs never seep into anything else turtles related

[MST3KFan]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

quality over quantity my friend. why would you want something you don't find appealing to succeed if it means they'll just give you more content that takes cues from it. I don't know how the movie is going to stack up in the end but I do know I hope these jacked up turtle designs never seep into anything else turtles related

That is what worries me. They did it in the 80s cartoon in the final seasons and they did it in the final season of the 2003 series.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by MST3KFan

That is what worries me. They did it in the 80s cartoon in the final seasons and they did it in the final season of the 2003 series.

I wouldn't mind these designs in the new series. I'd actually prefer it and hope it happens.

Originally Posted by slingtheory

quality over quantity my friend. why would you want something you don't find appealing to succeed if it means they'll just give you more content that takes cues from it. I don't know how the movie is going to stack up in the end but I do know I hope these jacked up turtle designs never seep into anything else turtles related

Yeah that's the way it happens. I really hope it doesn't succeed though. If I do see it I'll go on like a bargain day and early in the day so it's cheap. But I don't know anymore. You just gotta accept what is. The thing that sucks is we as fans are screwed either way. If it succeeds there will be more of this crap if it doesn't it'll be about another decade before we get a new one and we don't know if that will be done right either!

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by FellowChucker

True. But the turtles aren't horribly re-designed. It's such an over reaction by pessimistic, over nostalgic fan boys.

The new turtles look mean as hell, only this time they gave them even more physically defining characteristics, clothes, and accessories. That isn't like a horrendous mutation of how they should look.

They look bad ass. Who knows if the movie itself will be as good as the 1990 original, but so far in terms of aesthetics it looks great. Shredder too.

Anyone complaining, did you honestly expect them to re-hash the same look from the previous franchise? That's honestly what you wanted ... AGAIN? What's fresh or exciting about that?

Well, one can at least expect them to look like turtles, which the designs on the poster don't.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by FellowChucker

No, they clearly look like turtles. Shells, turtle faces, ninja bandanas / weapons / samurai armor. How does the look not scream ninja turtles? They don't look more or less like turtles than ANY other incarnation in the franchise's history. Please. How pessimistic can one be to even try to act like they don't look like turtles. What do they look like then? Are you going to say frogs?

Now this is just me but, they look like battletoads. Or the aborted offspring of Shrek and The Hulk. Now the individual leonardo design is what I think of for a ninja turtle.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by FellowChucker

No, they clearly look like turtles. turtle faces, samurai armor.

*Que this is Sparta kick down hole* ninjas and Samaria are the exact opposite of each other. Everyone knows ninjas were made to kill Samaria and save the towns people from them! And if you think those faces look like turtles... I can't even man.