WHY?! Explanations of why you defend or are repulsed by the designs

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

The new movie designs are to sell new toys, I think some are looking a bit too hard into the designs.

That happens with just about every single comic book movie....it's time people got over it

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

That happens with just about every single comic book movie....it's time people got over it

Clearly not what my post was referring too, I guess I have to elaborate a little bit so some gets it.



Trying to explain the new costumes with "personalized individuality" is probably a wee bit more then the designers ever thought about. They made the designs to differentiate the movie turtle toys from the current turtle toys, to sell more turtle toys.

It gives the kids a valid reason to nag their parents to get more turtles, cause they look vastly more different then what a Ninja Turtle usually do.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

The whole point of this thread is to explain why you think it's good or bad

I just like it. I don't really need to "defend" it as per your title. It's just acceptable to me and the design is what I can expect from Michael Bay films (basically Transformers).

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Clearly not what my post was referring too, I guess I have to elaborate a little bit so some gets it.



Trying to explain the new costumes with "personalized individuality" is probably a wee bit more then the designers ever thought about. They made the designs to differentiate the movie turtle toys from the current turtle toys, to sell more turtle toys.

It gives the kids a valid reason to nag their parents to get more turtles, cause they look vastly more different then what a Ninja Turtle usually do.

Of course they want to differentiate between the current tv Turtles and the Turtles from the past. Everything is about making money. Come on, I know there are idiots in the world but you don't have to be a genius to figure that out. It's a money grab AND they can express themselves at the same time...I don't know why some people can't and refuse to grasp that concept

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I just like it. I don't really need to "defend" it as per your title. It's just acceptable to me and the design is what I can expect from Michael Bay films (basically Transformers).

I agree. I don't need to defend a damn thing. It is an acceptable look to me. They look like Ninja Turtles. It's visually pleasing to me.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

Of course they want to differentiate between the current tv Turtles and the Turtles from the past. Everything is about making money. Come on, I know there are idiots in the world but you don't have to be a genius to figure that out. It's a money grab AND they can express themselves at the same time...I don't know why some people can't and refuse to grasp that concept

Some of the most profitable movies in the past couple years not only made obscene amounts of money, but were actually really great movies too.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Some of the most profitable movies in the past couple years not only made obscene amounts of money, but were actually really great movies too.

Ok, how do you know this won't be a great movie? Because of the designs of the turtles and Shredder? Oh wait, let me guess...Michael Bay

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by M-Frame

Agreed. It's just that the TMNT brand has been burdened and hindered with the family/child-friendly stigma for so long that I, at this point, have absolutely No Problem with this movie bringing it to the near complete opposite end of the spectrum in terms of tone (assuming that's what this movie is doing).
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I've heard people assuming it's supposed to be dark but aside from the fact that the turtles don't seem to look to very happy in the leaked stuff we've seen there's nothing to back it up. honestly with the channel 6 crew involved and the turtles in those accessorized outfits I wouldn't be surprised if this is the most light hearted version ever on the big screen. I just hope its like the tone of the first movie. in my opinion that's where they hit the sweet spot. dark atmosphere, dark situations, alternating between playful/ serious action scenes, and turtles who could go from being playful teenagers to being completely badass when necessary.the perfect balance of tmnt. I think the only way to make a turtle movie darker than the original is just go full mirage and have the turtles kill their enemies

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Some of the most profitable movies in the past couple years not only made obscene amounts of money, but were actually really great movies too.

Are we really willing to have a bad film because it keeps the franchise going and just to have something different out there? We are suppose to support that ?!

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

Ok, how do you know this won't be a great movie? Because of the designs of the turtles and Shredder? Oh wait, let me guess...Michael Bay

I don't know it won't be a great movie.

But personally, for me, to me, it's not looking likely.

And yes, Michael Bay makes bad movies.

As does Jonathan Liebesman.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Are we really willing to have a bad film because it keeps the franchise going and just to have something different out there? We are suppose to support that ?!

I'm not going to if it turns out to be not good. That's for damn sure.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

I don't know it won't be a great movie.

But personally, for me, to me, it's not looking likely.

And yes, Michael Bay makes bad movies.

As does Jonathan Liebesman.

Oh well, that's your opinion. I don't believe that

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Are we really willing to have a bad film because it keeps the franchise going and just to have something different out there? We are suppose to support that ?!

we shouldn't be. if you truly think its bad the simplest way to deal with this is to vote with your dollars. after they start advertising and the trailer comes out if you're still not impressed don't go see the movie. if they fail to convince you its worth your money don't give it to them. and if you do decide to go see it and you feel like it sucks then tell everybody you know that'll listen. negative word of mouth can kill a movies box office quick

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

Oh well, that's your opinion. I don't believe that

Cool.

Thanks for letting me know.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Cool.

Thanks for letting me know.

Anytime...

[Candy Kappa]

Although I hate the idea of whitewashing Shredder and rename him to Eric Sachs instead of being more inclusive and add more roles for people of color. I have one good thing to say about William Fictner being Shredder, at least they didn't put him in yellow face make-up like John Wayne playing Genghis Khan or Mickey Rooney as Yunioshi.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I think people should sit back before being over judgemental about the designs and movie.

I am not sure how I feel about Bay and his role over this movie, but all I can say is I did like his version of Nightmare on Elm Street, I can't even watch the old ones any more.

I want to see more pics trailers and the movie itself, so I am not being over cynical.

[Candy Kappa]

Bay was just the producer of the Nightmare remake, Samuel Bayer was the director. And that movie was all visual but no content, terrible reimagining of Freddy, looked cool. But man, did Jackie have some bad lines he desperately tried to sound good.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Bay was just the producer of the Nightmare remake, Samuel Bayer was the director. And that movie was all visual but no content, terrible reimagining of Freddy, looked cool. But man, did Jackie have some bad lines he desperately tried to sound good.

I watch Freddy vs Jason the other day, and I forgot how almost cheesy it is, I felt the Sam/Bay remake brought same credit to the character.

[Candy Kappa]

Freddy vs. Jason is amazing, not as a horror movie but in that cheesy monster vs. monster kind of way.

I feel the 2010 Nightmare remake lacked what made Freddy fun. He's such a huge personality and his evil charm from the original movies almost makes you forget that he does shady things to kids and kills them. The 201o movie just didn't "get" Freddy, he felt whiny and a bit pathetic. Which, I guess should be okay with what kind of person he is, but he is also supposed to be this bad ass bogeyman.

I think the 2010 remake would have been a much stronger movie if they went though with the fake plot twist they hinted at, that the kids was lying and Freddy was actually innocent. I think it would have been a great change to the story and still keep Freddy as a revenge thirsty creature.

Of the Platinum Dunes Horror remakes I think it's one of the weaker ones, Friday 13th wasn't very scary, but it did feel like a Friday 13th movie. Although I remember little of the Chainsaw Massacre, not helping I fell asleep watching it, something I usually never do with movies. Personally I kinda like the Amity Horror remake the best of them, it had a good atmosphere.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

we shouldn't be. if you truly think its bad the simplest way to deal with this is to vote with your dollars. after they start advertising and the trailer comes out if you're still not impressed don't go see the movie. if they fail to convince you its worth your money don't give it to them. and if you do decide to go see it and you feel like it sucks then tell everybody you know that'll listen. negative word of mouth can kill a movies box office quick

That's all we can do. With all the people torrenting now I don't think many people will want to see it after the opening weekend