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Excactly like it is now. I love TMNT 2. Still not as good as the first one, but still great. Better than the third one, that's for sure....
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OT: As difficult as it would be for some fans to work through and accept the idea of Splinter dying, I would love to see that actually addressed in a movie.
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I would have it keep the PG rating but I would keep the grit of the original. I would have it follow a premise that TMNT 3 tried to have where the turtles think about "Is this the rest of our lives? Fighting crime and living in the sewers?" And I would have Shredder's daughter (I seriously forget her name at the moment) and Dogpound be the villains. Shredder's daughter will hunt the turtles for revenge on Shredder.
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Utroms
The mutagen (not the turtles...) being of extraterrestrial origin shall be one of the foundations of every single TMNT universe. The movies were good, but removing this was nothing interesting. |
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I loved TMNT 2. I'd leave it as is. But, if I can change any movie, it'd definitely be Turtles 3.
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- Keep the same tone as the first film
- Keep the same Turtle designs from Movie 1 (SOTO gave them bigger eyes to appear more friendly) - Ditch Keno and give Casey Jones a role - Introduce Utroms - "Ninja Rap" would only be in the closing credits - Tokka and Rahzar either replaced by Bebop and Rocksteady or scrapped altogether - Actually show that the events of the previous film had changed and matured the Turtles - TCRI |
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I can agree with most of that... The producers wanted to make it less violent and more kid friendly if I remember correctly. Cant exactly be kid friendly when you have giant turtles killing foot soldiers which is why I wish they woukd make the foot clan robots |
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- I would've kept the darkness of the first movie. Add a 13 behind that PG lol
- Easter Eggs (hints at other characters/plot lines/dimensions in the TMNT universe) - Bring back Casey! - Bebop/Rocksteady over Tokka/Rahzar - Take risks (like the first film) - More SuperShredder |
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And honestly a better question for a thread would be.. what would your TMNT 3 look like?!
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Dunno if you mentioned these because of this but an interesting fact is that SOTO was originally going to have both of those things. The professor was going to be revealed to be an utrom. B&R were looked at for the mutant roles but ultimately deemed far too costly to make, which is when they asked Kev & Pete to design some new ones (though I'm sure Kev is the one who came up with Tokka & Rahzar).
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If Bebop/Rocksteady were going to be in this movie I sure hope they were humans instead of normal animals.
Thankfully back in 1991 there was so many black guys who looked just like Bebop, they would only have to dye their hair purple. Bebop was like the perfect portrayal of 80's black street punks. They really nailed his design based on the time period. |
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I would have loved to see a real battle at the end with super shredder....come on...this could have been an awesome scene and hes on screen for what 40 seconds? Cut down the ninja rap sequence and give us a finale.... The utrom scene would have been awesome.... I know it was cut due to budget i believe but that would have been a sick twist at the end....as a 5 yr old kid at the time i know my mind would have been blown |
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The Triceratons would have looked incredible, look at how Jim Henson's Creature shop handled the Dinosaurs tv show. This would have kept a lot of kids who were my age interested. This movie was the beginning of the end of my childhood TMNT fandom. |
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More Super Shredder, less cheesy-ness.
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Basically go into the next chapter in the Mirage comics like TCRI, Stockman with Mousers, Utroms, maybe Renet, and continue to have Steve Barron to direct it. Keep it dark and gritty with the style of dark lighting and the usage of their weapons.
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My take, in more detail (events stick with what already happens in movie, except where noted);
-Start the movie off with a gang of punks robbing the mall, and Keno Spots them. He manages to knock a few out, but they get the drop on him and it looks like it's curtians. When something knocks one of the gun-toting punks away, and we get a serious ninja fight sequence (instead of the cartoony slapstick one from the film) As the groggy Keno comes to, he catches a glimpse of the mysterious green ninjas who saved him as they vanish. -The turtles celebrate back at April's apartment, where April makes a remark that things between her and Casey 'didn't work out', dismissing him from the film. Meanwhile, at a dockside Warehouse that serves as the foot's fallback HQ, Tatsu (still sporting a bruise on his noggin from the fight with Casey) gathers the remaining foot ninja that didn't get picked up by the police or desert the clan, and swears revenge on the Turtles for killing thier 'father'. -When he demands if anyone will step forward and challenge him, a shadowy figure emgerges in the warehouse, and kicks Tatsu's rear. But this is not Oroku Saki, who was actually crushed in the garbage truck here. No... this is Oroku NAGI! Saki's older brother from Japan who had discovered his brother's death, and now wants revenge. Tatsu is confused- he had head Nagi had been killed years ago- but as he seeks the Same goal as the dead Saki's brother, he accepts Nagi's leadership. Nagi dons the Armor and becomes the new shedder, and after hearing of the turtles and the reporter, sends a foot ninja to spy on the Reporter as april's cameraman. -April does a report on TCRI labs, where Professor Jordan Perry is doing a toxic waste cleanup operation which he's not telling April the whole truth about. We then see Perry back at his lab, disposing of the last known canisters of mutagen from the batch, and talking to a bunch of his rats in the maze. We get the idea Perry prefers them, to his fellow humans who so carelessly buried the toxic waste years before. After the little song and dance where a suspicious Keno discovers the turtles, and the discovery of the new lair, Splinter sees the news report on TV and sends the turtles to investigate. Seeing a mutated flower from the site his spy brought him, Shredder sends Tatsu and the foot to the lab, where after a pitched battle with the turtles they take both Perry and the ooze. -When shedder discovers 'the secret of the ooze', he has his foot ninja steal a rhino and a warthog from the local zoo, and shredder has them mutated into two fierce monsters- rocksteady and bebop, who have animal intelligence and are not idiots (Perry names them after his two favorite musical styles). Keno goes on a uncover mission to the foot, that ends up with the turtles coming to his rescue. While they handle the foot ninja easily, the two mutants beat them sensless, and force the turtles to flee- but not before they rescue Professor Perry and Keno. Shredder is impressed by how Rocksteady and Bebop sucseeded where the foot ninja failed. -Perry tells them how the ooze was an accident, and they agree they have to get the ooze away from the foot. After having his two 'pets' that impritned on him rampage and kill dozens of people throughout the city, Shredder challenges the turtles to a final battle at the Docks. (I picture the two appearing like they did in that early Eastman and laird concept art from OT- dangerous monsters clad in scraps of armor, instead of street punks) -Meanwhile, Tatsu confronts Nagi about rebuilding the foot after the Turtles and the Rat are killed, and Nagi reveals he has no intention of doing so. He tells Tatsu that the Foot had thier day, and a ninja clan must adapt and take on whatever new waepons and strengths will allow them to win. Nagi tells Tatsu that he and his human foot have served thier purpose, and he will rebuild the clan with an army of mutants! Futhermore, Nagi tells Tatsu that he was the one who convinced his younger brother that he had been dishonored by Yoshi and Tang Shen, and commanded him to follow his former friend and former love to new york and take thier lives. Nagi stared the whole cycle of vengence to make a man out of his brother, by having Saki eliminate Shen- his only connection with love or any other sort of human emotion. Feeling betrayed, Tatsu attacks Nagi, who quickly kills him. Drinking a small vial of the ooze, Nagi begins to transform... -The turtles, April, Keno, and Perry comes to retieve the ooze, only to find the foot being all killed by Rocksteady, Bebop, and the newly mutated Super shredder. The Turtles duke it out with the three mutants in an epic battle, while Keno and April plant Donatello's explosives all over the piers the way donnie instructed them. The canister of remaining mutagen is knocked from Super Shredder's grasp, and shatters on Perry as he tries to retieve it. The professor flees with his face burning from the ooze. Finally Donnie sets the explosives off just as the turtles jump clear as all the docks explode, and the three mustants are sent flying and swept out to sea. With the New york Foot entirely wiped out and both of the brothers Oroku dead, it seems the Turtles Splinter, Keno, April, and the turtles return to the new lair to celebrate, with Splinter declaring the cycle of revenge has finally come to a close. -In another part of the sewer, we see a scarred and mutated Professor perry, all covered in rags and bandages and swearing that his revenge has just begun. And all around him, are swarming the rats of the sewers, awnering the call sent out by the mutagen-given powers of thier new king... ...and that's what I would've done! The whole mirage cycle of vengance, with OT elements thrown in for the kiddies!
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My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket. Last edited by Panda_Kahn_fan; 02-18-2014 at 10:01 PM. |
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Instead of The Shredder climbing out of the trash himself, I would have Tatsu and a few remaining foot conducting a search party for his body and they find him alive, but far more injured than how he was portrayed in the 2nd film.
A few months pass and the Turtles are living with Casey, rather than April. Raph and Casey go out most nights trawling for gang members, sometimes the rest of the Turtles join them, but they are increasingly enjoying the finer points of living above ground. Donnie starts playing with different types of technology, Mikey reads comics, Leo studies various martial art forms, yet is seemingly less confident than he was before nearly dying at Shredders hand. Splinter is the calming influence on the house and is still not well after the events of the 1st movie. All of the Turtles except for Raph start to yearn to be able to live normal social lives. Baxter Stockman and the mousers are introduced much like Perry was, in an interview with April. The Shredder and Tatsu are trying to recruit more members for The Foot, but due to Aprils exclusive on the clan post the 1st movie, people are reluctant to join. Then Shredder is informed of Baxter and his mousers, seeing an opportunity, he kidnaps him and his tech. At this point Shredder would be portrayed as still recovering from the garbage truck at this point, but still able to fight to some degree. Not well enough to face the turtles himself, though. Freddy, Aprils cameraman\assistant would tail April to Casey's place, giving The Shredder the Turtles location and a target for the mousers. In the meantime, Baxter is working on a project, separate from the mousers for The Shredder. Only glimpses of tech are seen. Shredder unleashes the mousers onto Casey's place. The Turtles and Casey deal with them with a bit of difficulty. Tatsu is disgruntled that his more traditional ways of dealing with things are being overlooked. It comes to light Baxter is missing and he gets painted as the villain in the media. One of the mousers from the assault on Casey's place returns with blood on it's jaws. The Shredder makes Baxter try to extract the mutational properties from it. Baxter gets enough from it to synthesize a crude form of ooze. Weeks pass and the Turtles find their own place. Casey stays with them. They still can't track down Baxter. After some refinement on the ooze, Bebop and Rocksteady are created and a very similar street destruction scene from the 2nd movie plays out with Bebop and Rocksteady substituting Tokka and Razor. Freddy reveals himself to April and tells her that The Turtles are to be at a construction site that night(pretty much exactly like the 2nd movie.). The Turtles and Casey show up and see the Shredder and The Foot. Leo is noticeably shaken by this. The fight begins. Bebop and Rocksteady are rendered unconscious by a cattle prod type device Donnie has made. The fight with The Foot ensues. Soon the Turtles and Casey realize that the majority of the Foot they are battling are robots dressed in Foot garb. The Turtles and Casey battle their way through the Foot subsequently, Shredder pulls a vile of ooze and drinks it. Super Shredder is unleashed. The Turtles and Casey are overpowered and have no choice but to get Stockman and retreat. The Turtles, Splinter and Casey prepare for what could be their final battle, against Bebop, Rocksteady and The Super Shredder. ...or something like that. Sorry for the long post, I got carried away.
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Pretty much what was stated here a few times already--unleash Barron on a sequel with a little more creative control. Ramp up the sci-fi element slightly, keep Hoag as April, stick with the high-key lighting and contrasty film stocks... more of a sequel to the original film than the lighter romp we wound up with. A fantasy/sci-fi/comedy martial arts film from the Golden Harvest gang... what's not to love?! It could have been fun!
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