Official Episode Discussion S2 #12 "Of Rats and Men" - Page 7

*Shark_Blade* · 03-03-2014, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RaphAndDonnie

Considering that he put her in the freezer so that she wouldn't melt I would wager yeah, she'd probably die if she melted.

Nah he kept her in the fridge to hide her, and since she's an ice cream that's the most logical thing to do at that moment for anyone tbh.

And when Mikey carried her in a box to Rat King's lair, she's fine all the way. She can even fight in the most adorable way. I'm pretty sure the cat has regenerative ability - never ever running out of ice cream. ^_^

*Candy Kappa* · 03-03-2014, 04:32 PM

I think Mikey was keeping her in one of those cooler bags, but yeah, I think ICK will have some regen powers, it's a children's show, ICK won't die.

FlawedCoil82 · 03-03-2014, 04:36 PM

Ugh! I want the Shredder back! They have not had a single fight with him this whole season. I don't like the turtles fighting aliens, fungi, monsters, rats, worms, etc. I like them fighting NINJAs. Martial arts versus martial arts is what I want. And the whole "ice cream kitty" thing was meant to be adorable for 6-14 year olds (and to cater to the infuriatingly unfunny "random humor" trend that plagues most modern cartoons) but just came off as completely absurd. The only part of this episode I enjoyed was the final minutes when Splinter defeated Rat King and then tore off his blindfold while saying "Goodbye, my king." That was badass... But the next episode looks like ANOTHER bummer with mutant worms. **Groans**

*BabyTurtles* · 03-03-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82

Ugh! I want the Shredder back! They have not had a single fight with him this whole season. I don't like the turtles fighting aliens, fungi, monsters, rats, worms, etc. I like them fighting NINJAs. Martial arts versus martial arts is what I want. And the whole "ice cream kitty" thing was meant to be adorable for 6-14 year olds (and to cater to the infuriatingly unfunny "random humor" trend that plagues most modern cartoons) but just came off as completely absurd. The only part of this episode I enjoyed was the final minutes when Splinter defeated Rat King and then tore off his blindfold while saying "Goodbye, my king." That was badass... But the next episode looks like ANOTHER bummer with mutant worms. **Groans**

theres Shredder in the next episode and Karai and she does a ton.

*Candy Kappa* · 03-03-2014, 04:52 PM

Shredder should be used very sparingly in my opinion.

Ninjawolf · 03-03-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Nah he kept her in the fridge to hide her, and since she's an ice cream that's the most logical thing to do at that moment for anyone tbh.

And when Mikey carried her in a box to Rat King's lair, she's fine all the way. She can even fight in the most adorable way. I'm pretty sure the cat has regenerative ability - never ever running out of ice cream. ^_^

Ick was adorable... did she show up in the last episode I don't think I saw her...

*CyberCubed* · 03-03-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Shredder should be used very sparingly in my opinion.

Agreed. Even in the 4kids show they fought him a little too much early on.

TheJ-manTurtleMan · 03-03-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

if something is adorable as ICK it should always be a necessity.

but seriously...I didn't mind it, It would have been a bonus to see Donnie and April scold Mikey for mutating the kitty..but it didn't bother me.

I was so caught up with Splinter and the RatKing.

ICK was that extra sweetness that helped me get through this creepy episode XD

You know, that is actually a good point that makes me think that's why they put ICK in the episode, as kind of a distraction from the overall disturbing creepyness of The episode, mostly likely for the younger audience.

Its probably what they got away with stuff like the failed experiment and shredded rats, the studio probably saw that and said to either cut it or put something in to balance it

Mhm ... clever ...

Luigiperps · 03-03-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Agreed. Even in the 4kids show they fought him a little too much early on.

Heal so died waaaaaaay too many times

*snake* · 03-03-2014, 05:09 PM

When splinter and RK were running through the tunnels, I could've sworn splinter rapped his line.

*Electric* · 03-03-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Shredder should be used very sparingly in my opinion.

Exactly. Let the turtles fight his foot, henchman, and even karai most of the time. It makes the shredder fights more intense. So far, I believe we've only seen the turtles fight shredder 2 times now,

Spoiler:

and were halfway through the second season. Think that's a perfect amount

*NinjaMan* · 03-03-2014, 06:42 PM

They seem to handle Shredder like the way Superman the Animated series handle Darkseid. He was used sparingly but when he showed, crap really hit the fan. I like that. It gives Shredder a real menacing feel.

Ember · 03-03-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

When splinter and RK were running through the tunnels, I could've sworn splinter rapped his line.

Ha! Glad I'm not the only one who thought that!

As for the episode, I loved it. My family was being quite loud in the living room so I didn't catch most of the lines in the beginning, but I loved how they juxtaposed that picture of the RK here and there; it was pretty freaky.

As for ICK, I would have much rathered she stayed a normal cat and became Klunk, but I'm okay with her like this.

*JTH* · 03-04-2014, 03:40 AM

I just realized what Irma & Casey are supposed to be, and what the April/Irma/Casey companionship is. It's that out of the box story telling that this show likes to do a lot of.

I don't remember what thread it was (Probably the Target: April thread) where I pointed out that Casey looked like he was designed to be a human version of Donatello, some people didn't see it like that bit some did. Now I watched Irma in this episode I noticed...Irma is Donnie too. That's the outside the box stuff Ciro is doing.

When you put Casey & Irma together, you get Donatello to a core. April is best friends with both and likes hanging out with them.

Casey has the characteristics traits of Donnie, Irma has the personality traits of Donnie. The irony is that April will never see that and although she likes all aspects of Donnie's character, she won't end up with him despite it. She isn't able to she that she likes all his traits separately.

So that now explains why it was played out, they wanted you to see all the characters around her.

madyankees · 03-04-2014, 06:27 AM

Smell it!!!

Jon_Talbain · 03-04-2014, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Nah he kept her in the fridge to hide her, and since she's an ice cream that's the most logical thing to do at that moment for anyone tbh.

And when Mikey carried her in a box to Rat King's lair, she's fine all the way. She can even fight in the most adorable way. I'm pretty sure the cat has regenerative ability - never ever running out of ice cream. ^_^

I hope that ICK learns more abilities eventually. The flailing of the arms was just too much, heheh. I hope that she does have a regenerative ability. Mikey still needs to stop eating mutagen ice cream though lol.

Ashwolf · 03-04-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon_Talbain

I hope that ICK learns more abilities eventually. The flailing of the arms was just too much, heheh. I hope that she does have a regenerative ability. Mikey still needs to stop eating mutagen ice cream though lol.

thinking about it, mikey eating the ice cream from the cat might have a long term effect on him like getting stabbed had a long term effect on don

Jon_Talbain · 03-04-2014, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashwolf

thinking about it, mikey eating the ice cream from the cat might have a long term effect on him like getting stabbed had a long term effect on don

You mean what happened to Don on the 2003 series? The 2nd mutation?

Gabriel GP · 03-04-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon_Talbain

You mean what happened to Don on the 2003 series? The 2nd mutation?

This ain't gonna happen, this is just to make it funny, not for anyone think on the consequences of it.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 03-04-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel GP

This ain't gonna happen, this is just to make it funny, not for anyone think on the consequences of it.

How about Mikey getting horribly sick ? That cat was a stray and look mangled. I hope it didn't have aby diseases or infections.

View Poll Results: Who else loved the Greco-Roman names for the rats?
Goodbye, my King...	36	37.89%
Need ice for my head... and possibly a cheesicle...	12	12.63%
You taste so good my little Ice Cream Kitty!	23	24.21%
Smell the Cheese! SMELL the CHEESE! SMELL IT!!	21	22.11%
Something something Irma rat droppings something...	3	3.16%
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03-03-2014, 04:32 PM	#122
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I think Mikey was keeping her in one of those cooler bags, but yeah, I think ICK will have some regen powers, it's a children's show, ICK won't die. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-03-2014, 04:36 PM	#123
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	Ugh! I want the Shredder back! They have not had a single fight with him this whole season. I don't like the turtles fighting aliens, fungi, monsters, rats, worms, etc. I like them fighting NINJAs. Martial arts versus martial arts is what I want. And the whole "ice cream kitty" thing was meant to be adorable for 6-14 year olds (and to cater to the infuriatingly unfunny "random humor" trend that plagues most modern cartoons) but just came off as completely absurd. The only part of this episode I enjoyed was the final minutes when Splinter defeated Rat King and then tore off his blindfold while saying "Goodbye, my king." That was badass... But the next episode looks like ANOTHER bummer with mutant worms. Groans Last edited by FlawedCoil82; 03-03-2014 at 04:42 PM.

03-03-2014, 04:52 PM	#125
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Shredder should be used very sparingly in my opinion. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-03-2014, 05:09 PM	#130
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	When splinter and RK were running through the tunnels, I could've sworn splinter rapped his line.

03-03-2014, 06:42 PM	#132
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	They seem to handle Shredder like the way Superman the Animated series handle Darkseid. He was used sparingly but when he showed, crap really hit the fan. I like that. It gives Shredder a real menacing feel.

03-04-2014, 03:40 AM	#134
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	I just realized what Irma & Casey are supposed to be, and what the April/Irma/Casey companionship is. It's that out of the box story telling that this show likes to do a lot of. I don't remember what thread it was (Probably the Target: April thread) where I pointed out that Casey looked like he was designed to be a human version of Donatello, some people didn't see it like that bit some did. Now I watched Irma in this episode I noticed...Irma is Donnie too. That's the outside the box stuff Ciro is doing. When you put Casey & Irma together, you get Donatello to a core. April is best friends with both and likes hanging out with them. Casey has the characteristics traits of Donnie, Irma has the personality traits of Donnie. The irony is that April will never see that and although she likes all aspects of Donnie's character, she won't end up with him despite it. She isn't able to she that she likes all his traits separately. So that now explains why it was played out, they wanted you to see all the characters around her.

03-04-2014, 06:27 AM	#135
madyankees Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 329	Smell it!!!