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Old 04-19-2014, 05:34 AM   #381
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Actually, First Class had terrible marketing in my opinion. It was marketed as a reboot, but it was a prequel, but it wasn't tied into the timeline, but it did set itself before the original trilogy, but wasn't part of them, but oh hey there's Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, so it set the stage for the X-Men trilogy as a prequel that was rebooting the trilogy it was leading into.

Make sense? -_-

Fox couldn't decide WHAT the movie was building up to release. :/
Huh.. The X-Men movie franchise might the most comic booky of the bunch. They retcon within their own movies without making a direct new reboot approach. And with time travel in the next movie... Well the stuff happening in the first trilogy might be wiped to a new clean slate and still be within continuity.

Still doesn't explain the two different Emma Frosts, but. Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.
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Old 04-19-2014, 07:53 AM   #382
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Huh.. The X-Men movie franchise might the most comic booky of the bunch. They retcon within their own movies without making a direct new reboot approach. And with time travel in the next movie... Well the stuff happening in the first trilogy might be wiped to a new clean slate and still be within continuity.

Still doesn't explain the two different Emma Frosts, but. Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more of this sort of thing as we get deeper into the "shared universe" style of storytelling that has become so popular all of a sudden in the wake of Avengers. Studios are determined to think big and start having multiple spinoffs in the works at any given time. With comics, the biggest challenge was writing stories that kept things interesting, and covering plot holes created by different artists and writers working on the projects. But with film, trying to keep the same cast of actors is a whole different level of challenging. Contracts run out, schedules conflict, and once in a while, someone indespinsible up and dies. I wouldn't be too surprised if nine-picture deals start becoming commonplace in comic book movies very soon.
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Old 04-19-2014, 08:07 AM   #383
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I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more of this sort of thing as we get deeper into the "shared universe" style of storytelling that has become so popular all of a sudden in the wake of Avengers. Studios are determined to think big and start having multiple spinoffs in the works at any given time. With comics, the biggest challenge was writing stories that kept things interesting, and covering plot holes created by different artists and writers working on the projects. But with film, trying to keep the same cast of actors is a whole different level of challenging. Contracts run out, schedules conflict, and once in a while, someone indespinsible up and dies. I wouldn't be too surprised if nine-picture deals start becoming commonplace in comic book movies very soon.
Nine Bay turtles films... the horror...

Also off topic, do you have an inside track on this movie? Your comic splinter is bang on and drawn before we got the brothers trailer...
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:22 AM   #384
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Nine Bay turtles films... the horror...

Also off topic, do you have an inside track on this movie? Your comic splinter is bang on and drawn before we got the brothers trailer...
Nah, I just worked off a combination of the description we'd heard back when someone described the action figures (top knot, Fu Manchu, gray fur) with what little I could make out from the blurry shots of action figures from Toy Fair.

You should have seen my pre-2007 comics. I made a running character of Emo-Spider a full two years before Spider-Man 3 came out. When the film wound up being exactly what my comics had been featuring for ages, people flipped their ****.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:07 PM   #385
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I noticed on Facebook, GOTG have like 172k likes and TMNT have 31K likes.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:44 PM   #386
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I noticed on Facebook, GOTG have like 172k likes and TMNT have 31K likes.
While I don't think any number like this is a reliable indication of interest in a movie, at the very least this number doesn't go up every time someone re-watches the trailer in order to gawk at the character designs.

Though to be completely fair, the way Facebook pages work kind of favors Marvel, since they already have a ton of movies out with official pages that people make have liked in the past, meaning GotG is a lot more likely to be recommended based on a user's known interests.

Still though, even in light of all that, that's pretty good news for GotG. It shows that a large number of people checking out this movie like what they see.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:20 AM   #387
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While I don't think any number like this is a reliable indication of interest in a movie, at the very least this number doesn't go up every time someone re-watches the trailer in order to gawk at the character designs.

Though to be completely fair, the way Facebook pages work kind of favors Marvel, since they already have a ton of movies out with official pages that people make have liked in the past, meaning GotG is a lot more likely to be recommended based on a user's known interests.

Still though, even in light of all that, that's pretty good news for GotG. It shows that a large number of people checking out this movie like what they see.
Yeah, I hate that people are dismissing it just because it's an unknown property. Ironman wasn't really a well known property before with the general audience, and now look, it's a billion dollar grossing movie.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:01 AM   #388
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Yeah, I hate that people are dismissing it just because it's an unknown property. Ironman wasn't really a well known property before with the general audience, and now look, it's a billion dollar grossing movie.
I'd have to disagree - Ironman was a well-known Marvel property before the movies came out. A prominent figure on his own, and keystone member of the Avengers.

The Guardians of the Galaxy is by far a much lesser known property, joining them in obscurity are teams like the Starjammers.

Dont get me wrong, you are right, people shouldn't be so dismissive because its relatively unknown - BUT, I'm hoping that actually works to its advantage, getting people interested in the original source material AND affording them the opportunity to approach the film with no expectations, just ready to have a good time.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:09 AM   #389
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Iron Man is of course more known then the Guardians, but. I doubt he's all well known among the general audience that don't read comic books, sure he had a cartoon series in the 90's, and is that robot suit guy in the avengers cartoons. But that's about it.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:14 PM   #390
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I'd have to disagree - Ironman was a well-known Marvel property before the movies came out. A prominent figure on his own, and keystone member of the Avengers.

The Guardians of the Galaxy is by far a much lesser known property, joining them in obscurity are teams like the Starjammers.

Dont get me wrong, you are right, people shouldn't be so dismissive because its relatively unknown - BUT, I'm hoping that actually works to its advantage, getting people interested in the original source material AND affording them the opportunity to approach the film with no expectations, just ready to have a good time.
I have to agree I never heard of The Guardians of the Galaxy before this movie and to top it off I found out about the movie on this forum not through mainstream media or friends.

Iron Man on the other hand I always new about even before the movies. I new he was a rich guy in a robot suit
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:15 PM   #391
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Iron Man was a household name, even if people didn't know anything about him. He's just been around so long. I wouldn't have been able to tell you his name was Tony Stark, before the movies. But I could've told you he flew around in a red and yellow suit of armor.

But, honestly, Guardians may have garnered that much notoriety with just their trailer. Cause everybody's talking about that movie. And if you ask them, they probably can't tell you what the movie's about, but people still think it's gonna be a blast.
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:49 PM   #392
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so not to veer off topic but i noticed on instagram Alan Ritchson is no longer promoting TMNT but instead the kickstarter project for Blue Mountain State: The Movie

maybe he is done with it?
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:17 PM   #393
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so not to veer off topic but i noticed on instagram Alan Ritchson is no longer promoting TMNT but instead the kickstarter project for Blue Mountain State: The Movie

maybe he is done with it?
Blue Mountain State is his own personal project, so I'm sure he's more attached to it emotionally than any films he's just acting in. Doesn't mean he doesn't care about the turtles. He seems to be super stoked about it. I'm sure he'll go back to promoting that when it gets closer to the release.
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Hitfix released their 25 most anticipated movies of the summer.

TMNT came in at 24. GOTG at 6.

http://www.hitfix.com/summermovies
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so not to veer off topic but i noticed on instagram Alan Ritchson is no longer promoting TMNT but instead the kickstarter project for Blue Mountain State: The Movie

maybe he is done with it?
Noel Fisher who plays Mikey hasn't been promoting the movie either, Maybe they are still under NDA. Recently the artist who created the designs signed up on the forum, But can't talk about the movie until the movie comes out. Check out his post here.
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Blue Mountain State is his own personal project, so I'm sure he's more attached to it emotionally than any films he's just acting in. Doesn't mean he doesn't care about the turtles. He seems to be super stoked about it. I'm sure he'll go back to promoting that when it gets closer to the release.
Blue Mountain State was some TV Show that got canceled recently, But has a following.
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Noel Fisher who plays Mikey hasn't been promoting the movie either, Maybe they are still under NDA. Recently the artist who created the designs signed up on the forum, But can't talk about the movie until the movie comes out. Check out his post here.
His post was removed?? Still cool that people who worked on the film are signing up here though.
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His post was removed?? Still cool that people who worked on the film are signing up here though.
Nope, its just that his twitter doesn't show much TMNT on it, Mostly a show he did previously.
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not to sound like a naysayer and i am sure he is a great guy, but the creature designer signing up to the forum isnt all the "wow woohoo" to me

maybe i am spoiled, i was part of Rangerboard for almost 2 years before i joined this one and ranger actors join that all the time

Muppet central has had Muppeteers and writers join all the time too

i mean i am sure he is a fan but him being here won't sell me on a movie i am already iffy on, maybe he can shed light on some issues i have but it wont change my mind

edit: misread thought noel signed up
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Wait, both Noel and the creature designer have signed up accounts on the 'Drome?
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