Episode Discussion S2 #16 "The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman" - Page 6

*CyberCubed* · 05-04-2014, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

Probably my favorite thing was the new fight music, just incredible.en!

I'm glad you brought this up as I don't think anyone else did. The music during the fight scenes were new and different in this episode, like when April was fighting Baxter.

Nice to hear new music added to the show.

*AT-Man* · 05-04-2014, 08:36 PM

Does anybody else get a Tom of Finland vibe of this picture?

vs

I hope that's what they were going for.

*Electric* · 05-04-2014, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm glad you brought this up as I don't think anyone else did. The music during the fight scenes were new and different in this episode, like when April was fighting Baxter.

Nice to hear new music added to the show.

It's something different, and I'm not saying the previous fight songs were getting old, just that the new one adds some breaks from it, without losing any of the epic-ness

*Warhorse* · 05-04-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro-Specs

Now I'm super-curious - just who is Shredder intending to mutate, and into what? Must be a character we know already. He could be referring to himself, but I have the feeling this Shredder would not take such a risk, and is confident enough in his own abilities than to change himself. Personally I think it'll be Karai, since he's seeing that she hasn't been very loyal lately. He'd likely think that she'd be more useful and more obedient as a mutant. So he can control her better, being half animal, like a dog or cat to hunt down a rat.

Heh, now that you mentioned it. This series likes to take incidents from other series, and just mix it up some. In the OT, April was a half human half cat for an episode, and so it's possible that Shredder might turn Karai into a half cat, to torture Splinter some more.

DarthEmpress · 05-04-2014, 10:53 PM

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Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable by how April was tied up??.....

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her butt was in the screens face a couple of times....a little awkward....

Seeing a minor tied up in a ball tie position was disturbing and unnecessary >__> I'd like to know who animated April during that scene and what was going on in their mind...

Regardless, I really liked this episode. It was great seeing April set up to save her dad, although I wonder - why could one single drop turn him human again if Donnie said he only had enough retromutagen for TWO doses????

*CyberCubed* · 05-04-2014, 10:58 PM

I think you guys are seeing things that aren't there. Remember the target audience for the show is 5-10 year old kids, they're not thinking of April in bondage.

I mean how else is April going to be tied up over a vat of mutagen? The only other way is if her hands were tied at the top and she was straight dangling down.

*BabyTurtles* · 05-04-2014, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think you guys are seeing things that aren't there. Remember the target audience for the show is 5-10 year old kids, they're not thinking of April in bondage.

I mean how else is April going to be tied up over a vat of mutagen? The only other way is if her hands were tied at the top and she was straight dangling down.

that would have worked.....or she could have been tied like Leo was when he got captured.

bridgegrn · 05-05-2014, 12:06 AM

I loved all of the references to the 1986 version of The Fly. We were just watching that in class this past week.

turtle1237 · 05-05-2014, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable by how April was tied up??.....

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her butt was in the screens face a couple of times....a little awkward....

Saw it today, didnt notice until you pointed it out. Not sure what to think expect new teen April never had a BIG butt, but here, it seem her rear double in size or something.

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! · 05-05-2014, 12:38 AM

WOW! What an episode! Not only do we get Baxter as a fly now and not only did we get to see the Retromutagen pay off but we even got to see Ace Duck! Does anyone else think Donnie might use the next batch to fix Mutagen Man? I seriously was almost in shock that they let April fall in. I thought they were gonna make her in to a turtle. Also when Donnie told Casey to "Eat it! Eat IT!" I really laughed hard and I'm not even a fan of the Donnie/April thing. I also like Baxter's understated design as well. I think his wings might actually be seizure inducing for people with epilepsy. LOL. Really awesome episode for me. IGN said they felt it lacked action sequences but I totally disagree with that.

*Wildcat* · 05-05-2014, 12:40 AM

April in bondage is just you guys over thinking it. Besides its not like fans have not made or thought worse. You know who you are

Glad a warthog and rhino were mentioned. Hope that confirms Bebop and Rocksteady. Didnt really like that Kirby could be cured by just a drop of retro mutagen. The whole episode they made it clear that they needed the whole tube for one person.

Also April being immune to the ooze is just ugh...I know, her Kraang connection but Don says thats why the retro works but this was barely discovered. Surely he did something to the ooze before through his own testing...not just mix DNA with mutagen. His formula was more then that.

Would have been awesome if she actually mutated.

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! · 05-05-2014, 12:51 AM

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Really liked the episode.

- I liked that Shredder intentionally mutated Baxter instead of it being an accident

- I'm glad the retro-mutagen is tough to make. I found it funny that they didn't even mention turning MM back to Timothy. I really liked that they had 3 parties chasing after the retro-mutagen - made for a good final act.

- Loved the nods to Bebop, Rocksteady and Ace Duck.

- Who is the final mutant that Shredder alluded to? Would he mutate Karai? I hope not. Himself?

I initially thought he was talking about himself. Who can say for sure though?

turtle1237 · 05-05-2014, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

April in bondage is just over thinking it. Besides its not like fans haven't made or thought worse. You know who you are

Im really glad a warthog and rhino were mentioned. Hope that confirms Bebop and Rocksteady.

Didnt really like that Kirby could be cured by just a drop of retro mutagen. The whole episode they made it clear that they needed the whole tube for one person.

Well its not because April is tied up that gets people over thinking, its more that she is bend over with her rear covering most of the screen and with high detail of the shape of her butt that gets people over thinking.

That Kirby getting cured by just a drop did bugged me though, Don made it pretty clear that he only had plenty of retro mutagen for Kirby and Splinter. If it can cured people with drops, than Donny can pretty much cured every one who's lives were ruin by getting turn into Monkeys or Spiders or even weed plants.

Glad Kirby got cured, but knowing a few drops can do it, than There really was no reason over the brawl for it, every one could share. Well Villians dont like to share, but you get the point.

Chris_a_Bunga · 05-05-2014, 01:18 AM

What a great/ fun episode. I really dug it, and I saw it mentioned before, but I wanted to say I thought the score in this episode was awesome, it really made me think of Dawn and Day of the Dead (originals of course), it has this fun horror vibe to it. Loved it. I definitely want to see more Baxter Fly.

*BabyTurtles* · 05-05-2014, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by turtle1237

Glad Kirby got cured, but knowing a few drops can do it, than There really was no reason over the brawl for it, every one could share. Well Villians dont like to share, but you get the point.

heck Donnie could have just sprinkled a little on Baxter while he was causing a fuss, would have been back to normal in no time.

but he probably didn't know....but now that he does...(And I'm hoping he remembers it only takes a little) hopefully the next batch of retro-mutagen he makes will be enough for everyone.

and maybe we can put an end to this mutation hysteria XD

it kinda sucks that April was immune to the mutagen....which caused Kirby to mutant from protecting her....which caused Donnie to use his last retro-mutagen to cure him.....XD.......if only Mikey accidentally spilled a little mutagen on April in the beggining, all of this could have been avoided lol

Ninja Tiptup · 05-05-2014, 01:25 AM

Maybe Donatello thinks Timothy can't be revived from his frozen state (at least yet). Otherwise, way to turn your back on him when you found a cure Donnie. They should really help Malachi and some others while they're at it.

So April is immune to mutagen and because of that she is the key to retro-mutagen. Go figure.

Glad we didn't have to watch Baxter mutate but that sure was intense when the mutagen collar started breaking.

Fly Baxter vomiting makes sense but it's totally gross.

Baxter should have listened to the turtles. With that much mutagen, Donnie could whip up plenty of retro-mutagen.

I do wonder what would have happened if Baxter or one of the turtles fell in the mutagen with April give April is immune to the mutagen.

Since that stuff usually starting working and absorbing it does beg the question how much mutagen stings the eyes and other sensitive areas when it comes in contact.

I guess Bradford still would like to be human but I wonder if the double-dunk means he can't be.

They just had to have Turtlefly vs. Baxter, brilliant!

Foreshadowing for Bebop and Rocksteady and I got a good laugh out of Ace Duck.

I'm surprised the cure actually worked. I kept expecting Baxter to try using it with no results or even worse results. The question is how long will the cure work? Is it actually permanent. Besides that the cure seems more nonsensical than the cause but I must admit I like that they can undo mutations, they just made it difficult to make more of the cure.

The Turtle Terminator · 05-05-2014, 03:01 AM

Quick thought. If I remember correctly, at the end of the episode, Shredder said something about more mutant experiments to BaxterFly. In theory, could these mutants be Bebop & Rocksteady?

*drgon78* · 05-05-2014, 06:55 AM

Actually he said he wants Baxter to create one more mutant.

*blindturtle02* · 05-05-2014, 07:13 AM

One more mutant, Shredder says. I've been trying to look up natural predators of turtles. Frogs came up, and so did snakes. Scaletail would rock, but I was hoping they'd stick with his alien bounty hunter roots. I was thinking we would get to see B and R before s2 is over, but not too sure about that. Wondering if this next mutant will be an original 2012 character.

turtle1237 · 05-05-2014, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Turtle Terminator

Quick thought. If I remember correctly, at the end of the episode, Shredder said something about more mutant experiments to BaxterFly. In theory, could these mutants be Bebop & Rocksteady?

Would loved it if Bebop and Rocksteady show up, But Shredder did say one more mutant though, and I think we all know who may be the subject.

We may be wrong, I hope I am wrong.

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AT-Man I SEEN IT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: FIN Posts: 2,206	Does anybody else get a Tom of Finland vibe of this picture? vs I hope that's what they were going for. __________________ Through the Golden Door

05-05-2014, 12:38 AM	#110
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 996	WOW! What an episode! Not only do we get Baxter as a fly now and not only did we get to see the Retromutagen pay off but we even got to see Ace Duck! Does anyone else think Donnie might use the next batch to fix Mutagen Man? I seriously was almost in shock that they let April fall in. I thought they were gonna make her in to a turtle. Also when Donnie told Casey to "Eat it! Eat IT!" I really laughed hard and I'm not even a fan of the Donnie/April thing. I also like Baxter's understated design as well. I think his wings might actually be seizure inducing for people with epilepsy. LOL. Really awesome episode for me. IGN said they felt it lacked action sequences but I totally disagree with that. __________________ Go Ninja! Go Ninja! GO!

05-05-2014, 12:40 AM	#111
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	April in bondage is just you guys over thinking it. Besides its not like fans have not made or thought worse. You know who you are Glad a warthog and rhino were mentioned. Hope that confirms Bebop and Rocksteady. Didnt really like that Kirby could be cured by just a drop of retro mutagen. The whole episode they made it clear that they needed the whole tube for one person. Also April being immune to the ooze is just ugh...I know, her Kraang connection but Don says thats why the retro works but this was barely discovered. Surely he did something to the ooze before through his own testing...not just mix DNA with mutagen. His formula was more then that. Would have been awesome if she actually mutated. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything. Last edited by Wildcat; 05-05-2014 at 01:02 AM.

05-05-2014, 01:25 AM	#116
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	Maybe Donatello thinks Timothy can't be revived from his frozen state (at least yet). Otherwise, way to turn your back on him when you found a cure Donnie. They should really help Malachi and some others while they're at it. So April is immune to mutagen and because of that she is the key to retro-mutagen. Go figure. Glad we didn't have to watch Baxter mutate but that sure was intense when the mutagen collar started breaking. Fly Baxter vomiting makes sense but it's totally gross. Baxter should have listened to the turtles. With that much mutagen, Donnie could whip up plenty of retro-mutagen. I do wonder what would have happened if Baxter or one of the turtles fell in the mutagen with April give April is immune to the mutagen. Since that stuff usually starting working and absorbing it does beg the question how much mutagen stings the eyes and other sensitive areas when it comes in contact. I guess Bradford still would like to be human but I wonder if the double-dunk means he can't be. They just had to have Turtlefly vs. Baxter, brilliant! Foreshadowing for Bebop and Rocksteady and I got a good laugh out of Ace Duck. I'm surprised the cure actually worked. I kept expecting Baxter to try using it with no results or even worse results. The question is how long will the cure work? Is it actually permanent. Besides that the cure seems more nonsensical than the cause but I must admit I like that they can undo mutations, they just made it difficult to make more of the cure. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

05-05-2014, 03:01 AM	#117
The Turtle Terminator Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,110	Quick thought. If I remember correctly, at the end of the episode, Shredder said something about more mutant experiments to BaxterFly. In theory, could these mutants be Bebop & Rocksteady? __________________

05-04-2014, 10:58 PM	#106
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,896	I think you guys are seeing things that aren't there. Remember the target audience for the show is 5-10 year old kids, they're not thinking of April in bondage. I mean how else is April going to be tied up over a vat of mutagen? The only other way is if her hands were tied at the top and she was straight dangling down.

05-05-2014, 12:06 AM	#108
bridgegrn Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	I loved all of the references to the 1986 version of The Fly. We were just watching that in class this past week.

05-05-2014, 01:18 AM	#114
Chris_a_Bunga Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Surfside Beach DUUUDE Posts: 101	What a great/ fun episode. I really dug it, and I saw it mentioned before, but I wanted to say I thought the score in this episode was awesome, it really made me think of Dawn and Day of the Dead (originals of course), it has this fun horror vibe to it. Loved it. I definitely want to see more Baxter Fly.

05-05-2014, 06:55 AM	#118
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,409	Actually he said he wants Baxter to create one more mutant.

05-05-2014, 07:13 AM	#119
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	One more mutant, Shredder says. I've been trying to look up natural predators of turtles. Frogs came up, and so did snakes. Scaletail would rock, but I was hoping they'd stick with his alien bounty hunter roots. I was thinking we would get to see B and R before s2 is over, but not too sure about that. Wondering if this next mutant will be an original 2012 character. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.