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I am a puppeteer https://www.facebook.com/JulioRoblesPuppeteer ![]() i have to Make Socks and Stuffed animals come to life..WITHOUT the use of special effects sometimes in the comfort of a studio or on set outdoors sometimes in front of a live stage audience which include kids who need to believe these things are alive sometimes its through a big company or some other studio. or some inde director ![]() and yes even sometimes under some of your all time favorite characters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SzyhpgeJf4 so dont just brush off my words as some "whiner" who cant wait because you don't like what i say..i actually know what i am talking about and double yes that is me
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Sp all the Arguments about them Marketing poorly As far as i have heard(from people who matter) aren't true, and i have heard this from COUNTLESS people.
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But you cant say you know how a movie such as this one work because you havent work on a movie such as this one. thats the thing. Animation is a KEY MAJOR part of this film to say you know how it will work when you have no insight into what that mean how much work that takes and the fact is you can't.
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technically its motion capture and SFX
Animation is another genre and department...so make sure you are talking to the right people
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Don't try and make me look stupid just prove your point. Seriously.
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Which is a shame because this should be a good place to talk about it you know seeing as this is a fan board and all. Heck i wish I was getting paid My someone. And I wish I could spend All day On this site, But sadly Working two Jobs does not allow this.
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A couple of movies? Do I need to go through every major summer blockbuster? How am I wrong? I'm giving factual evidence. I'm not just making personal claims on this. These are actual dates when marketing started for the movies, for every major blockbuster coming out this year. Whoever you're talking to in the industry is telling you 5 months is a common and standard marketing period. I'm showing you hard facts that if every blockbuster of the year is not falling within that, I question if it's "standard." I acknowledge some movies take a shorter timeframe, though it's also true some do that because of budget for marketing having been small or production going over budget so the marketing gets reduced. Result: shorter heavy market blitz in a shorter timeframe. But it's not speculation that these movies had longer marketing. Including Planet of the Apes coming out this year. The shorter marketing MIGHT hurt TMNT. The shorter marketing MIGHT not hurt TMNT. The shorter marketing MIGHT help TMNT. I'm not saying flat out it's going to flop because of this. I'm only saying it's evident they're going with a shorter marketing than most summer blockbusters. And you have to admit, it's weird the teaser posters came out after the teaser trailer which gave a look at them. I'd have flipped my shiznit if I saw those posters in theaters last Thanksgiving/Christmas. Those posters don't require motion capture, nor animators. That's what surprises me is all, that they haven't had some non-trailer, non-footage marketing either. Kind of surprised they didn't create a fake "news site" for viral marketing for them, really. Kind of like ASM2's Daily Bugle articles, only centered on Turtle-verse (and whatever news station April works for in the movie)
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being a fan does not mean you have to like eveything i dont on peoples cases for disliking Next Mutation or the out of their shells tours...one i like and one i love also we had or respective threads before the giant lock down...us who were leery kept having to tell people in the positive side to stay out of our threads
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If you look Rise and Dawn (apes) their trailers came out only 5 months before the release Dawn just got a second trailer. two months before release As for Viral Campaigns those a relatively new And there are tones of movie who dont touch Viral marketing. I understand you look at movies Like Spiderman and Xmen , and Just assume TMNT should automatically market that way but its just not true. Lets look at movie and how many month are between first teaser/trailer, and release Lego First teaser-8 months Robo cop - 7 months Captain America winter soldier- 5 months Spiderman - 5 months Godzilla - 5 months Xmen- 7 months HTTYD II- 11 months 22 jump street- 6 months Dawn- 6 months GOTG- 6 months hobit-8 47 ronin-5 Catching fire- 6 Frozen - 5 Muppets - 7 Noah(ALSO PARAMOUNT)- 4 months Mk now lets Focus on Paramount for a little Transformers 4 - 3 Hercules-4 months Jack Ryan - 3 months Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones -3 months The Wolf of Wall Street- 6 months Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues -7 months Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa 3 months World War Z- 7 month was delayed Pain & Gain-4 months G.I. Joe: Retaliation-4 months Star Trek Into Darkness-5 months Now TMNT - 5 months
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If you go to those sections of the Board to talk and discuss abo0ut those thing In a positive Manor, Do you expect Major backlash and disdain from a plethora of People Non stop Day in day out. All you wanna to is talk about the positive parts you like what you enjoy, and every post is met with Again disdain and disgust That would irritate you would it not. If someone went on to a Muppet's forum you go to and did nothing But talk bad about the movie WITH OUT ever seeing it Would that no agitate you? No matter What "opinions" he has that's not something anyone who has a passion enjoys. You dont have to like everything that not the issue thats never been the issue. Its how its all been handled thats the issue I'm not really sure there is an accurate way to discribe it And i know im not the only one who feels this way. The best way i can Sum it up is I want to talk about something I enjoy AND CANT. that it that how it feels on these forums, and i know im not the only one who thinks this ways. Its just a shame that i and other cant Go to a tmnt fan site to be excited for a tmnt movie thats all I mean sure we can be excited but what fun is it when every other post is and objection, for pandering comment, Ive time and time again seen a very good Discussion broken up By negative comments that ruins the buzz and hinders the discussion And you know it suck when people say "Ehh just ignore me then" because if that's the case im going to be ignoring a lot of people. and then i get those blank post littering the thread and breaking Conversations im having with like minded people. Example If you're a Marvel Fan but hate Spiderman Do you still go into the spiderman section of the marvel forum the tell everyone how much you hate spiderman, Heck your a marvel fan you have your own opinions thats all, and you keep talking about how much you hate spiderman, everything about him there's nothing Appealing about him, Sure you can go and discuss Captain American which you love but nope You just sit and talk about how bad spiderman is and its ok because its your opinion so people just have to put up with it.
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And guess what? I had major problems with Amazing Spider-Man 2. And I've not only expressed those problems in my review, I've discussed them on various forums. I've even been bashing the hell out of the tie-in game without having played it, because I'm familiar enough with Beenox's work to know it was going to be horrible, and the reviews suggest I'm 100% right. I'm a huge Spidey fan, but that doesn't mean I need to be positive about everything with a Spider-Man logo on it. It also doesn't bother me when people trash the Raimi movies (which I adore) or even when they're way too harsh about the latest film, which I think had a lot of problems but was still fun and worth seeing. My point is, your opinion is your own. Other people have different opinions. And that's fine! There's no reason to get upset over the opinions of others, and trying to change those opinions is pointless. We're all fine with you feeling positive about this film. And boy do I wish I could feel that way too, but I don't. And that's fine. |
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Muppet fans are some of the most cynical people I know, most refuse to watch anything made after Jim Henson's death (1990) Other refuse to watch anything made under Disney , some only like current Kermit at the hands of whitmire, some hate anything Elmo related and wants him to die. Muppet fans rip apart specials and movies like no one I have ever seen or met in any fandom...never mention Muppets Wizard of OZ on and online muppet related site And yes I have dislike what I have seen from them.. Back in 2011 when "the muppets" came out I spoke on how I hated that all the trailers focused on segel and Adams .....and guess what I was right the muppets don't make a real appearances until almost past the 20 minute mark And most of the movie focuses on them and the story of their anniversary dinner..sure I love them As actors but in a movie called " the muppets" it sure had a lot more human cast members Since at the time I was hanging with certain people I got things before hand and I was annoyed all the songs in the first movie where just rehashes of older songs In 2012 when "Muppets again" later renamed "muppets most wanted" was announced I made my voice heard that Ricky Gervais was attached, because even though I love him I thought he would hog the spot light ..this time I was proven wrong Thing is I was very leery then too , for many reasons both times and I spoke my concerns ...proudly Whether it's tmnt,power rangers,muppets, transformers , whatever I will say my concerns, and the reason I say them Is because I want to be proved wrong. I don't want to go into a movie with blind love just because Kermit's face is on it or Michelangelo eats pizza, I shouldn't have to support something because I grew up on it and studios are going to assume I will be there. I don't want my bar raised so high that it can never be reached And I mean I answered this question before when puddinpop asked it you can find the rest of my answer there But in the end no it doesn't bug me that people do that even if I happen to love the franchise. People have different likes..some hate things some don't, I respect both sides..but I am no going to tell someone who hates Muppet Christmas carol they are wrong because I love it Or that Pepe the king prawn is one of the best new chars introduced to the muppets in recent years IMO. And all this isn't even scratching the surface of some of the "negative" things I've seen said But the real question is, Why isn't that because my option on "insert franchise here" happens to be negative I shouldn't be allowed to talk about it?
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No, that's ship is sailed for TMNT, a bit sad as well, since Nickelodeon made a lot of promo stuff when they acquired the property. Like fake news reports, where they covered strange foot prints in green paint, and had guys in turtle costumes appear.
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