Do you like the way Donnie acts around April this series?

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Okay, wow. If you don't see the implications of what you said, I feel sorry for you. I hope somebody with OCD never sees this post.


Being preoccupied with thoughts of your crush a lot [the definition of obsessing] is fine. Most people do it. Most people have done it. I've done it! But when you overstep boundaries in acting on that obsession is when we have a problem. This isn't hard to understand.


Really. You mentioned Twilight in one sentence, then said "no way this is the first step to sexual predation" in the next, with a straight face. Do you even know what thoughts create the idea that it's OK to do that to people? Because let me tell you, most people that commit sexual assault don't think they were in the wrong. They were raised into thinking it was right by seeing these boundary-stepping behaviours in their media. It's especially inappropriate in children's media.


You're underreacting. I overreact on purpose so people can't turn a blind eye to Donatello's inappropriate behaviour. Stop excusing it. What he does isn't ****ing okay.


I'm pretty sure you never watched 2k3 if you think that's the case.

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WOW
SO FLAWLESS
MUCH CRAFT

Donatello was a worker bee to a fault, falling asleep in the middle of the job. He didn't always think about side-effects, just reaching his end goal. And oh yeah, he sort of lost during the first round of the Battle Nexus. He is also not as socially awkward. If anything, in that incarnation, Leo might have been the socially awkward one. I like this, because it mixes things up a bit and it doesn't put the nerd in a stereotypical position. The nerd is friendly, and he makes more friends than the other turtles do! He is usually quick to get attached, as seen with Kirby, Jhanna, and Angel, which can be seen as a fault.

Either way, these are much better flaws than "obsesses over one person to a creepy degree" because it's WAY more relatable and isn't horrendously disturbing to watch. Also, it's more varied. There's a lot more to 2k3 Don than 2k12 Don. 2k3 Don would probably be appalled at this alternate version of himself, because 2k3 Don respected women for their minds, not their bodies. Which is what everyone should be doing, and what I would want kids looking up to.

I've gone over Leonardo's flaws before, and they're way more obvious. He is too hard on himself, expects perfection, and expects to always be in charge. He can get wrapped up in his own problems to the point where he forgets that he doesn't have to do this alone. He places all the responsibilities of his brothers on his own shoulders, and it bites at him. And his judgement is NOT always the best. Do I seriously need to keep bringing up the fact that he almost sided with the Shredder? OR the several-episode-long arc of self-pity and eventual self-discovery? Leonardo grows into being a more well-rounded fighter, but he has to work damn hard to get there.


I'm not trying to convert anyone. I'm criticising this show for my own reasons. If you know I call myself the TMNT 2k12 Hate Machine [capitalise that! it's a title! ] then you should also know that I'm writing a long-term project about the turtles. I criticise so I can improve MYSELF as a writer, and I mention flaws [in the writing, not the characters!] repeatedly so I know not to make those mistakes myself. It's in my best interest to stay here. Going on some sort of internet tirade to "convince people to my side" would be a waste of time, because people on the internet don't listen. I mean, look at me. I call myself a Hate Machine. I don't take it seriously. Why are you?

1) You do not have any statistics on hand that things like Twilight lead to sexual assault. I think it sucks, mind you, but the fact that much of the female populace disagrees proves that yours isn't the only opinion. Accept it.
2) You do not need to SUBJECT US to your tirades to help you be a better writer; use a damned journal. And if you really aren't trying to convert us, then why the shell are you just repeating the same argument over and over to people who obviously don't agree? How about you stop "preparing" to write the fanfic with your incessant bitching, and just go write the damn thing instead?
3) I may be crossing the line here, but if you bring up doge, then you're damned as a writer anyway so far as I'm concerned.

It is blatantly obvious that your argument has nothing to stand on but slippery slope logic, and you blame the media excessively for people doing what is in many of our natures to do. We psychoanalize the ones we love; get used to it. A chart may be creepy to you, but it is, in fact, a hyperbolic representation of the actual dilemmas men go through about how to approach a girl in a way that isn't scary to them. And as others have said, Don has matured since that point.

I really want to know, how would you have done it "better"? Is there any way at all they could have had Donatello crush on April that doesn't offend you?