Did the new trailer change your mind?

[fridaynightdestination]

I've always been excited for this movie, this trailer just boosted my excitement though

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by BlisterStockboy

Please, please, PLEASE don't let the soundtrack be dubstep.

Very rarely is the soundtrack of a film used in its trailer. Still, I hope the dubstep isn't reflected in the soundtrack at all...

[PizzaFaceDelivers]

Yes! For the first time, I'm truly excited. I can't wait for August!

[Bry]

Nope. Still not liking what I'm seeing at all. And I will explain why. (Let's please not have any bickering about it, though?)

I've made it pretty clear already what I think makes the TMNT "work", and why making them gigantic and superhumanly strong, and making the Shredder into a giant mech-suit, completely misses the point of the concept, the characters, and the tone of the entire franchise. And I stand by that. That was my main concern, and this trailer did absolutely nothing to put those fears to rest.

To me, the Turtles look like ugly, 'roided-out Hulk monsters. They're throwing people around like rag dolls, meaning they're so over-powered that there's not much that poses a legitimate threat to them. "Regular" ninjas or enemies aren't a match for them at all. That removes a lot of the tension and stakes immediately, which I find way more important than over-the-top superhero action scenes. And I've said it before, but: the Shredder is a huge mech-suit because he needs to be in order to fight the giant Turtles, who are giant and super-strong so they can fight the Mecha-Shredder. The logic seems to be "bigger is better" across the board - everything has to be big and explosive and "badass" at all times. And that kind of thing doesn't do much for me at all.

Oh, and I find the visual/directing style totally obnoxious. That too.

These are just my opinions. People like what they like and that's fine. But I definitely feel that this, and Transformers, are giving audiences what's basically Michael Bay's Generic Explosions-Based Action Movie over and over again, with the same basic "character" archetypes, visual style and manner of action set-pieces, with whatever property he's gobbled up sledgehammered into that framework like a square peg into a round hole.

And it's frustrating (for me personally) that in doing so, they often toss aside the actual spirit, tone, style, message, etc. of the source material that actually makes it memorable and worthwhile. The more successful that method is, the more likely we're just gonna get Michael Bay Action Movie #78 with a nostalgic-property's name slapped on it, instead of something that actually has legitimate care and effort put into representing that property at its best.

[HotNunchuckFury]

Nope. Always been super-hyped about this and the trailer just fuelled my excitement even more!

[Powder]

Still absolutely hate Megan Fox as April, & her "acting" in this trailer only worsens that feeling, but I have to admit I've got a bit more faith now. The designs still have a lot of flaws but they're considerably better looking than the absolutely terrible promotional art they've been using. I never doubted the film would look good, & it certainly delivers on a visual level. Lots to see, very detailed & vibrant, fast paced, shiny, etc. While I think this new concept of Shredder is 100% bullcrap, I will say he's definitely imposing, & looks cool in action. I can appreciate the design & idea behind it, but it just doesn't sit right with me, or feel like it belongs with the turtles. These turtles, maybe, but eh... I'm very interested in who the shadowy figure Sachs was talking to is, though! Saki? Tatsu? Gives some credit to the theory that Sachs is Chunin to a bigger & badder fella, like the original Shredder or whatever. We'll see, I guess. Dubstep sucks. Figured they'd use it. Meh. Action looks cool, & I really dig the voices. Knoxville, to me, is a surprisingly good fit as Leonardo. It suits the design, to say the least.

So overall I'm still unhappy with Fox, new Shredder, over-complicated designs, high-tech everything, & dubstep, but I've got some new excitement nonetheless. Despite my being vocally against most creative decisions behind this film, I said from day one that I would still be able to find some merit in it. So I don't want anybody trying to say I've changed my tune.

I agree with the below whole-heartedly, just the same.

Originally Posted by Bry

I've made it pretty clear already what I think makes the TMNT "work", and why making them gigantic and superhumanly strong, and making the Shredder into a giant mech-suit, completely misses the point of the concept, the characters, and the tone of the entire franchise. And I stand by that. That was my main concern, and this trailer did absolutely nothing to put those fears to rest.

To me, the Turtles look like ugly, 'roided-out Hulk monsters. They're throwing people around like rag dolls, meaning they're so over-powered that there's not much that poses a legitimate threat to them. "Regular" ninjas or enemies aren't a match for them at all. That removes a lot of the tension and stakes immediately, which I find way more important than over-the-top superhero action scenes. And I've said it before, but: the Shredder is a huge mech-suit because he needs to be in order to fight the giant Turtles, who are giant and super-strong so they can fight the Mecha-Shredder. The logic seems to be "bigger is better" across the board - everything has to be "badass" at all times. And that kind of thing doesn't do much for me at all.

Oh, and I find the visual/directing style totally obnoxious. That too.

These are just my opinions. People like what they like and that's fine. But I definitely feel that this, and Transformers, are giving audiences what's basically Michael Bay's Generic Explosions-Based Action Movie over and over again, with the same basic "character" archetypes, visual style and manner of action set-pieces, with whatever property he's gobbled up sledgehammered into that framework like a square peg into a round hole.

And it's frustrating (for me personally) that in doing so, they often toss aside the actual spirit, tone, style, message, etc. of the source material that actually makes it memorable and worthwhile. The more successful that method is, the more likely we're just gonna get Michael Bay Action Movie #78 with a nostalgic-property's name slapped on it, instead of something that actually has legitimate care and effort put into representing that property at its best.

[MrTMNT2012]

I went from cautiously optimistic to being absolutely psyched out of my mind. Definitely my most anticipated movie!

[Fjaj]

Originally Posted by Bry

Nope. Still not liking what I'm seeing at all. And I will explain why. (Let's please not have any bickering about it, though?)

I've made it pretty clear already what I think makes the TMNT "work", and why making them gigantic and superhumanly strong, and making the Shredder into a giant mech-suit, completely misses the point of the concept, the characters, and the tone of the entire franchise. And I stand by that. That was my main concern, and this trailer did absolutely nothing to put those fears to rest.

To me, the Turtles look like ugly, 'roided-out Hulk monsters. They're throwing people around like rag dolls, meaning they're so over-powered that there's not much that poses a legitimate threat to them. "Regular" ninjas or enemies aren't a match for them at all. That removes a lot of the tension and stakes immediately, which I find way more important than over-the-top superhero action scenes. And I've said it before, but: the Shredder is a huge mech-suit because he needs to be in order to fight the giant Turtles, who are giant and super-strong so they can fight the Mecha-Shredder. The logic seems to be "bigger is better" across the board - everything has to be "badass" at all times. And that kind of thing doesn't do much for me at all.

Oh, and I find the visual/directing style totally obnoxious. That too.

These are just my opinions. People like what they like and that's fine. But I definitely feel that this, and Transformers, are giving audiences what's basically Michael Bay's Generic Explosions-Based Action Movie over and over again, with the same basic "character" archetypes, visual style and manner of action set-pieces, with whatever property he's gobbled up sledgehammered into that framework like a square peg into a round hole.

And it's frustrating (for me personally) that in doing so, they often toss aside the actual spirit, tone, style, message, etc. of the source material that actually makes it memorable and worthwhile. The more successful that method is, the more likely we're just gonna get Michael Bay Action Movie #78 with a nostalgic-property's name slapped on it, instead of something that actually has legitimate care and effort put into representing that property at its best.

True, but the '87 series also made many drastic changes (I definitely don't think it kept the spirit and tone of the comics), and this one looks to be a product of its time, much like the '87 series. And although I am not a big fan of that series, many other people love it, and it's their favourite version.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Yes and no. I still hate Megan Fox as April and Silver Samurai on crack version of Shredder, but I think they're at the very least getting the characterization of the turtles right (from what I can gather) and the action seems to be pretty intense and fun.

It still has the potential to be a terrible movie (hopefully it won't be), but at the very least, it won't be boring.

[Leolead]

Why does everyone here hate dubstep? all my friends at school love it.

[Fourcylinder]

I think my opinion of this movie has changed over time, at first I was vehemently opposed to it. Over time, i mellowed, not due to fondness towards anything the marketing was showing, but more so because I accepted that it was going to happen and my complaining wouldn't change it... so whatever. I always intended to see it, just on a Sunday (which where I live means 5 dollar tickets) and not on an opening weekend. This trailer didn't so much change my opinion, but it makes me slightly more hopeful that there will be at least some aspects of the movie that I may not be complaining about while watching it. Though, I still do not like the turtle designs, especially not the faces... they just look bad.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Originally Posted by Leolead

Why does everyone here hate dubstep? all my friends at school love it.

Adults tend to prefer real instruments.

[Tazi]

Not really. All a blockbuster's trailer can show these days are just little eyecandy and some bad onliners, so basically, I only saw iw again, how bad these movie character designs are, and how bad actor Megan Fox still is.
I'll still watch it anyway, but meh...

[The Fifth Turtle]

Yes, I am even MORE excited to see it now.

[thebrownranger]

Originally Posted by Powder

Still absolutely hate Megan Fox as April

Agreed. I wish we could have got someone better, but oh well.

Originally Posted by Powder

While I think this new concept of Shredder is 100% bullcrap, I will say he's definitely imposing, & looks cool in action.

Yeah true. It kinda bugged me when Will Arnett said "robot Samurai." There doesn't seem to be much of a ninja aspect to The Shredder seeing as he's fully samurai in this flick. But he definitely looks f*ckin badass in motion.

Originally Posted by Powder

I'm very interested in who the shadowy figure Sachs was talking to is, though! Saki? Tatsu? Gives some credit to the theory that Sachs is Chunin to a bigger & badder fella, like the original Shredder or whatever.

Who kows, maybe a mummified/resurrected Oroku Saki?

Originally Posted by Powder

Dubstep sucks.

Originally Posted by Powder

Knoxville, to me, is a surprisingly good fit as Leonardo. It suits the design, to say the least.

Yeah, I was pretty shocked in a good way. His voice performance does seem to suit this version of Leonardo pretty well. One part of this trailer that convinced me of that was when he threatened April saying "If you do, we will find you."

Originally Posted by TMNT is cooler than MOTU

Adults tend to prefer real instruments.

[IndigoErth]

Hasn't changed my mind really any. I was already figuring I'd eventually see it at some point, outside the theater. Good to see more of the Turtles, and Leo esp nice to actually see/hear him speak... but this movie isn't gonna win me over to the maker's design choices. If only they'd gone about it a bit differently I'd probably be jumping up and down with most of the rest of you. But I'm not, makes me kinda sad that I'm not, but... it is what it is I suppose.

They don't feel turtle enough to me and I have my own thoughts how that might have been better achieved by a different style of tweaks, but people would prob flip if I were to voice it. Just wish it wasn't too late to be part of their damn design team... lol

As I said in that other thread, I think my main fear really is over the chance that this particular style of model choices could mark itself as the only acceptable version of "realistic" to the point that something else someday that's a little more recognizable but also given super realistic textures and motion suddenly isn't acceptable. I really hope not.


I'll see it eventually, prob when available on demand. And I'll still side with my fave Leo... even if he doesn't look Leo enough to me. At least they gave him cool armor and nice eyes.

[Mona_Lisa]

I've gone from really worried to pretty excited and wanting to drink lots of crush soda, LOL!!!!!

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Bry

Oh, and I find the visual/directing style totally obnoxious. That too.

Yeah, the shots look so off to me... kind of irritating.

[sh3llshocked]

Man I miss being a kid. Back when everything wasn't so over analyzed and scrutinized. This board has reminded me of why I hate reading reviews from "professionals" like Roger Ebert, etc. Listening to some old crab break down every movie if it doesn't come out like Schindlers List...ugh. I joined this forum to enjoy all things turtle, especially the new movie, but I've gotten to the point where even opening a thread on this forum is so depressing. I read one or two comments and then it's right back to shrek, wrong voices, Megan Fox is soo terrible, and of course....:drum roll: MICHEAL BAY! Dom dom dooooooom!

I think I will retire from this forum for a while, and return to the land of normal humans, back where I can enjoy this movie without feeling like, for some reason, I should hate this movie. This franchise has had so many changes over the years, I find it so funny that people can gripe about this movie...crazy

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

not really....its nice to see a turtle centric trailer, but that doesnt mean they will be the main focus...just look at the transformers trailers..they put all the robot action to draw people in

still not a fan of shredder tron

i mean sure i can atleast tell ill enjoy it as a summer movie but its not turtles to me