Did the new trailer change your mind?

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Jester

Ahem....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...th_Muscles.jpg

Oh that takes me back...

[Leo656]

That little gem was Mila Kunis's acting debut, sir. I shan't see it slandered.

Besides, he saved the SH*T outta that orphanage, did he not?

Jester's sig pic totally makes it look like Raph is going "Ahem" and presenting that pic. Love it.

[slingtheory]

I was fearing the worst but honestly it doesn't look as bad I thought it would be. Still doesn't look like something I'd want to pay to pay full price to see though because all the things I think are wrong with it are still front and center. Redbox it is. Oh and I don't remember who it was but congratulations to the guy who speculated splinter didn't get captured with the guys because he was left for dead and raph would be the one to find him. You called it bro

[Coola Yagami]

It did a little I must admit. Looks like a fun action packed movie. Still don't know why they couldn't just do this with the classic designs. Don't make some people happy. Make everybody happy.

[Leo656]

Pretty much exactly what I been saying. I mean, obviously that isn't possible, but it's not unthinkable to try. The biggest changes seem to have been painted with a "Bwahaha, this'll *really* mess with those nerds!" brush, and I don't get it.

I mean, there's stuff I'm seeing that I'm still not thrilled about, but if I didn't hate the overall look so much, some of the rest would definitely go down smoother. For me, anyways.

[trikuza]

judging by the likes vs dislikes on youtube, as well as twitter commentary, it changed a lot of people's opinions.

[Jester]

It kinda got me psyched to see just how bat dookie insane this thing is gonna be...because man it's nutty as a squirrel turd.

[Leo656]

Throw in Nash or Hogan as Hun and I'll take back everything bad I've ever said about this movie, Obama, and NASCAR. I swear.

Not the Houston Astros, though. F*ck those guys.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by trikuza

judging by the likes vs dislikes on youtube, as well as twitter commentary, it changed a lot of people's opinions.

Well... Did not change my opinion of the models neck up.. I did "like" on YouTube but that was in large part to bookmark it. Curious still of this movie, but not in love with it as some seem to be.


Have to admit I'm a little torn.. I'd rather not to hand over my money to the makers of it, and at this point in time money is tight as it is, though it will be a test of patience to wait it out until it's available via other means. If the soda boxes gave away ticket... eh, I might have been tempted to go if it was on their dime.

[BMo]

For me this trailer helped a little and hurt a whole lot more. I am really worried that they have spoiled a lot of the movie with this trailer. Many of the things shown I would have rather experienced in the theater. Knowing the outcome of certain fights and things just makes me worry that now the I'll be sitting through the movie and will feel like, "oh yeah, I knew that was going to happen" all the way through.

[pennydreadful]

Yeah, for me it helped in some parts and reinforced my opinion on others. I think that the Bay tropes we were all ragging on are going to be present since we've now seen footage of an explosion in the lair, and more tossing around rather than ninja buttkickery. *shrugs* Maybe they just mean that they're ninja in the sense that they use ninja weapons. (Which is more than we can say for the Foot, clearly. ).

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Yeah, for me it helped in some parts and reinforced my opinion on others. I think that the Bay tropes we were all ragging on are going to be present since we've now seen footage of an explosion in the lair, and more tossing around rather than ninja buttkickery. *shrugs* Maybe they just mean that they're ninja in the sense that they use ninja weapons. (Which is more than we can say for the Foot, clearly. ).

I have a question. Throughout my years of being a TMNT fan, it always seems to paint that while the boys may have been trained as Ninjas, when they fight, Leo is known as the most skilled in Ninjitsu, and is most likely to use that mastery. With the others, Don has been mostly shown to use his brain and tech, Mikey his speed and using scenarios from his comic books to come up with plans, and Raphael is always known to be more of a brawler, than a true Ninja. So, is the movie really taking that much liberty with this kind of thing, when other incarnations have been guilty of it as well?

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I have a question. Throughout my years of being a TMNT fan, it always seems to paint that while the boys may have been trained as Ninjas, when they fight, Leo is known as the most skilled in Ninjitsu, and is most likely to use that mastery. With the others, Don has been mostly shown to use his brain and tech, Mikey his speed and using scenarios from his comic books to come up with plans, and Raphael is always known to be more of a brawler, than a true Ninja. So, is the movie really taking that much liberty with this kind of thing, when other incarnations have been guilty of it as well?

I don't really know enough about the actual rules of martial arts to be able to factually say "this isn't ninjitsu, that isn't ninjitsu", so everything I say should be taken with that in mind when I talk about the lack of ninja action. What I will say is that my perception is that this movie is taking liberties in a far more overt manner than we've really seen before. It's not that we've never had Turtles action where nobody ever got tossed - but I think other incarnations probably paid a bit more lip service to the ninja "spirit".

It was just a bit odd seeing Leo toss someone into the side of a subway instead of, I dunno, ninja-kicking the person into the side of a subway. Likewise, it's jarring to see Karai pointing a gun at someone when I'm used to seeing her use ninja moves.

It's not that it's bad, terrible, unforgivable et al. Or that it's good, great, wonderful. It is what it is, people's mileage will vary from person to person. But I do feel that it is different from what we've seen before. Which, to be fair, is pretty much what The Powers That Be have been saying all along.

Again though, this is just my analysis of what we've seen so far. If I'm proven wrong on some points after seeing the movie, I've got no qualms about admitting it.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I don't really know enough about the actual rules of martial arts to be able to factually say "this isn't ninjitsu, that isn't ninjitsu", so everything I say should be taken with that in mind when I talk about the lack of ninja action. What I will say is that my perception is that this movie is taking liberties in a far more overt manner than we've really seen before. It's not that we've never had Turtles action where nobody ever got tossed - but I think other incarnations probably paid a bit more lip service to the ninja "spirit".

It was just a bit odd seeing Leo toss someone into the side of a subway instead of, I dunno, ninja-kicking the person into the side of a subway. Likewise, it's jarring to see Karai pointing a gun at someone when I'm used to seeing her use ninja moves.

It's not that it's bad, terrible, unforgivable et al. Or that it's good, great, wonderful. It is what it is, people's mileage will vary from person to person. But I do feel that it is different from what we've seen before. Which, to be fair, is pretty much what The Powers That Be have been saying all along.

Again though, this is just my analysis of what we've seen so far. If I'm proven wrong on some points after seeing the movie, I've got no qualms about admitting it.

I don't know anything about Ninjitsu either. But I just know, on more than one occasion when I get into arguments about Raphael vs Leo, I get a lot of "Raph's more a brawler than a Ninja, that's why he loses".

But either way, the semi ninja action doesn't really bother me. It's hardly what made me a fan of the Turtles.

[voltron80]

Originally Posted by Bry

Nope. Still not liking what I'm seeing at all. And I will explain why. (Let's please not have any bickering about it, though?)

I've made it pretty clear already what I think makes the TMNT "work", and why making them gigantic and superhumanly strong, and making the Shredder into a giant mech-suit, completely misses the point of the concept, the characters, and the tone of the entire franchise. And I stand by that. That was my main concern, and this trailer did absolutely nothing to put those fears to rest.

To me, the Turtles look like ugly, 'roided-out Hulk monsters. They're throwing people around like rag dolls, meaning they're so over-powered that there's not much that poses a legitimate threat to them. "Regular" ninjas or enemies aren't a match for them at all. That removes a lot of the tension and stakes immediately, which I find way more important than over-the-top superhero action scenes. And I've said it before, but: the Shredder is a huge mech-suit because he needs to be in order to fight the giant Turtles, who are giant and super-strong so they can fight the Mecha-Shredder. The logic seems to be "bigger is better" across the board - everything has to be big and explosive and "badass" at all times. And that kind of thing doesn't do much for me at all.

Oh, and I find the visual/directing style totally obnoxious. That too.

These are just my opinions. People like what they like and that's fine. But I definitely feel that this, and Transformers, are giving audiences what's basically Michael Bay's Generic Explosions-Based Action Movie over and over again, with the same basic "character" archetypes, visual style and manner of action set-pieces, with whatever property he's gobbled up sledgehammered into that framework like a square peg into a round hole.

And it's frustrating (for me personally) that in doing so, they often toss aside the actual spirit, tone, style, message, etc. of the source material that actually makes it memorable and worthwhile. The more successful that method is, the more likely we're just gonna get Michael Bay Action Movie #78 with a nostalgic-property's name slapped on it, instead of something that actually has legitimate care and effort put into representing that property at its best.

[Pondslider]

No. I didn't hate the first half the trailer and then everything after Raphael says he has to get his brothers back undid whatever good the first half did.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Jester

It kinda got me psyched to see just how bat dookie insane this thing is gonna be...because man it's nutty as a squirrel turd.

Two poop references, I like it.

[FoxBoxKid]

Before this trailer, I wasn't sure whether or not I'd even watch the new movie. Now, I will probably see it in theaters. After I see Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and Guardians of the Galaxy, of course, and definitely not in 3D.

[chrisdude]

It appears to be a blend. The turtles still use their weapons, (that's "ninja action," by default), but at the same time, humans don't weigh too much.

Would I prefer more traditional martial arts? Perhaps. But I'll trade it in in a heartbeak, when it affords me wild, over-the-top action, like Turtles Vs Humvees, Mikey carrying around a rocket board, and Donnie deflecting bullets with a bo. Really isn't far off today's cartoon. They can dispatch Foot with one blow, too.

We already had a grounded TMNT. Let's have a crazy one. #TeamTechnodrome

[Bry]

Originally Posted by voltron80

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...yyyes? What exactly didn't make sense there, pray tell? I feel I backed up my opinions pretty well - if you wanna dispute them, feel free to back it up with more than a GIF.