Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Because they're Amuuurricans, brah! And real Amuuurricans love to watch other real Amuuurricans!

[Sumac]

I dunno, I guess there are plenty of people out there that love what he does or he wouldn't have made as much $$$ as he has on these things... much as I don't personally understand it!

Mindless entertentainment on that scale hasn't existed before like this.
Also, I think it has to do with the way how current world is. People just want to shutdown their brains and forget about problems. The thing is it could've been done with something more decent. So, it goes back to the factor of novelty. I would've blamed advent of CGI for this, personally, but it's just a tool.
Indiana Jones or Star Wars (originals) are technically similar movies - escapism at its finest, but they have stories that make sense and compelling characters.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Mindless entertentainment on that scale hasn't existed before like this.
Also, I think it has to do with the way how current world is. People just want to shutdown their brains and forget about problems. The thing is it could've been done with something more decent. So, it goes back to the factor of novelty. I would've blamed advent of CGI for this, personally, but it's just a tool.
Indiana Jones or Star Wars (originals) are technically similar movies - escapism at its finest, but they have stories that make sense and compelling characters.

Uh......what?

Are we forgetting the 80s macho action movie craze? Brainless fun entertainment has been around forever!

[Sumac]

Are we forgetting the 80s macho action movie craze? Brainless fun entertainment has been around forever!

Not really. There is a difference between Rambo shooting brainless redshirts and bunch of giant robots leveling cities.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Uh......what?

Are we forgetting the 80s macho action movie craze? Brainless fun entertainment has been around forever!

Seriously 80's movie, and tv are all pretty brainless Entertainment Say what you will try to find some deep meaning if you want but the 80's was known for excess. Large explosions and mindless action

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Not really. There is a difference between Rambo shooting brainless redshirts and bunch of giant robots leveling cities.

Not much of a difference. Only difference is that they have actual robots alongside the robotic actors in one of them.

You seriously can't tell me that Commando has more of a plot than any of the Transformers movies. It's all the same basic mindless entertaining fluff. Instead of Arnold cracking off a one-liner, it's Optimus giving a speech about ripping Megatron's head off.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Seriously 80's movie, and tv are all pretty brainless Entertainment Say what you will try to find some deep meaning if you want but the 80's was known for excess. Large explosions and mindless action

Not to mention some of the horror flicks. Some horror flicks I find to be some of the worst movies in existence.

[Cure]

Let's not forget some (not all) of the westerns that are just dudes blowing each other's brains out.

The scale has gotten bigger but dumb action movies have always been around.

[Glados]

New topic: Which decade's dumb action movies were the dumbest?

[Pondslider]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

What are these people smoking? Michael Bay movies are boring? I don't think so.

To each their own. I saw the first Transformers in theaters and the sequels when they came to Netflix. I thought the second and third especially were way too long and boring. Lousy acting, worse characters, action scenes that are almost impossible to decipher and who cares because there are basically no consequences for the main characters anyway. It's not the genre I'm against. Pacific Rim is far from perfect but I find way more enjoyable than Michael Bay's recent movies.

[Sumac]

Not much of a difference. Only difference is that they have actual robots alongside the robotic actors in one of them.

Nope.
A lot of difference. Basically "dumb" movies in the past were about characters (partially at least), nowadays "dumb" movie are all about special effects. You don't need charismatic actor on screen, when you can have giant robot. It doesn't make "dumb" movies smarter, but at least it make it look like there was a real effort put into them besides few imaginary robots and assplosions.

It's all the same basic mindless entertaining fluff.

Yet, Commando have charisma,while Transformers don't have anything except for CGI.

Horror movies is a different can-o-worms. I don't like the genre, so there are all the same to me. Uninterestingly the same. Friday 13 were one of the cliched and stupid movies I ever seen.

[JamieH]

Since Rambo was used as an example of 80's action flicks, I think it should be noted that First Blood was more than mindless action. It's a good example of an action movie having a genuine plot and an underlying message. Especially if you take into consideration the originally intended ending.

It's not terribly difficult for an action movie to have a workable plot that's good. So there's not much excuse when one doesn't. Even if it's a plot that has been used and seen before, it's still better than relying on action to make a movie satisfying.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by JamieH

Since Rambo was used as an example of 80's action flicks, I think it should be noted that First Blood was more than mindless action. It's a good example of an action movie having a genuine plot and an underlying message. Especially if you take into consideration the originally intended ending.

It's not terribly difficult for an action movie to have a workable plot that's good. So there's not much excuse when one doesn't. Even if it's a plot that has been used and seen before, it's still better than relying on action to make a movie satisfying.

First Blood does have more to it.

The other Rambo films? Not so much.

[JamieH]

I'd make an argument for Rambo: First Blood II as well. It's not as strong as the 1st movie, as far as depth of plot, but it's far from a stinker. Rambo III, well, it's quite a stretch and it's release suffered unfortunate timing. There's a little something to '08 Rambo, but it goes so over the top in the last action sequence it's hard to take serious.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Not to mention some of the horror flicks. Some horror flicks I find to be some of the worst movies in existence.

Yeah; I'm a huge horror buff myself but I definitely prefer the older stuff to the majority of what's come out in the last 15 years. The old Hammer Horror films were exploitative, as were the 80's slasher films, but they still had something to them which the latest run of torture-porn flicks just lack. I dunno, I just find stuff like Hostel and Saw: Part 784 to be mean-spirited and depressing.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Not much of a difference. Only difference is that they have actual robots alongside the robotic actors in one of them.

You seriously can't tell me that Commando has more of a plot than any of the Transformers movies. It's all the same basic mindless entertaining fluff. Instead of Arnold cracking off a one-liner, it's Optimus giving a speech about ripping Megatron's head off.

the thing is that even though the films would be light on plot what little they hasd was coharent and didn't unravel at the seams if you thought about it to much. It feels to me like back in the day action was always the result of the story and these days its like they come up with the action setpieces first and then find a way to string them together ito make a full movie. Probably because most movies now a days get rewritten multiple times before they make it in front of the cameras

[Pondslider]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

the thing is that even though the films would be light on plot what little they hasd was coharent and didn't unravel at the seams if you thought about it to much. It feels to me like back in the day action was always the result of the story and these days its like they come up with the action setpieces first and then find a way to string them together ito make a full movie. Probably because most movies now a days get rewritten multiple times before they make it in front of the cameras

It's all about having enough scenes to show in the trailer to get people into the theater.

[Warhorse]

Well, i watch mostly fox and i have been seeing lots of gotg trailers but no tmnt. I have seen plenty of Dawn of the apes and Lucy too. But no tmnt. But tge shows i watch are more geared towards adults (24) so i guess that might be a reason for the lack of tmnt.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

So Michael Bay told the fans to "Let Them Hate", During an interview from MTV.
http://www.mtv.com/news/1855534/mich...sformers-fans/

Did he have his cue cards during the interview? :3

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Hmmm, my favorite Bay movie is probably Bay Boys 2. That's a movie that never gets too old for me. My other favorites would be Transformers 1 and The Island.

Bad Boys

Bad Boys 2 up until all logic gets thrown in the garbage and they go to Cuba. Just, wtf were they thinking how that makes any sense?


Also, I have yet to see TMNT trailer, but I have seen Guardians of the Galaxy, during WWE's programming. That's...not good. WWE's demographic is the cash cow all summer blockbusters are aiming for, including the younger ages. Granted, I'm sure there's a deal since one of the actors is a WWE wrestler, even if he's not on the program at the moment, but I doubt there'd be any exclusivity to it.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Did he have his cue cards during the interview? :3



Bad Boys

Bad Boys 2 up until all logic gets thrown in the garbage and they go to Cuba. Just, wtf were they thinking how that makes any sense?


Also, I have yet to see TMNT trailer, but I have seen Guardians of the Galaxy, during WWE's programming. That's...not good. WWE's demographic is the cash cow all summer blockbusters are aiming for, including the younger ages. Granted, I'm sure there's a deal since one of the actors is a WWE wrestler, even if he's not on the program at the moment, but I doubt there'd be any exclusivity to it.

Now, Disney is including GOTG in Spider-Man comics and I have seen reports of toys now making their debut at the toy stores, and they are flying off of the shelves. Especially Rocket.