Legend Of The Yokai Promo Clip

[DarthEmpress]

I'm so happy they're including the Japanese supernatural in this movie, even if it's just a story Splinter tells to his boys <3 I smiled when I saw the kappa shown with their little "bowls" of water on their heads and hair. I'm glad they didn't just make them look exactly like the turtles because they're not how the kappa have been portrayed.

Of course, they left out the part about the shirikodama...thankfully ^_^

[TigerClaw]

This harkens back to TMNT 3 with the Scroll showing Kappa type warriors during ancient Japan

[Traximus]

Looks like it'll be somewhat similar to the IDW comic backstory. That's cool.

I just wish they were a little less on-the-nose with the weapons.

[xChri5x]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

This harkens back to TMNT 3 with the Scroll showing Kappa type warriors during ancient Japan

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...1361756690.jpg

I've always wondered about that.

[Cryomancer]

"honour, wisdom, courage and brotherhood"

Yes Hollywood I get it, 4 qualities you can argue the TMNT each represent you are so clever. Not sure that wisdom and courage are the words I would use for (presumably) Donatello and Raphael though. Intelligence and (hardheaded, stupid) Bravery might fit better.

[Powder]

Not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Kind of a big middle finger to Japanese folk tales & ancient culture though, as Kappa were definitely not creatures of honor & all that jazz. They'd lure you into the swamps and suck your intestines out through your asshole. Hence them being feared & referred to as DEMONS.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Powder

Not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Kind of a big middle finger to Japanese folk tales & ancient culture though, as Kappa were definitely not creatures of honor & all that jazz. They'd lure you into the swamps and suck your intestines out through your asshole. Hence them being feared & referred to as DEMONS.

* ultra raspy old guy voice

Some were good, some were veeery bad

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Powder

Not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Kind of a big middle finger to Japanese folk tales & ancient culture though, as Kappa were definitely not creatures of honor & all that jazz. They'd lure you into the swamps and suck your intestines out through your asshole. Hence them being feared & referred to as DEMONS.

Originally Posted by Galactus

* ultra raspy old guy voice

Some were good, some were veeery bad

Galactus hit it on the nose. Like any species, kappa aren't necessarily all evil. Tengu, kappa, kitsune, tanuki, even oni... there's tales of them being altruistic, heroic, or just... "normal" in demeanor. To say kappa weren't honorable, to boot, is actually patently wrong. They would actually DIE for their honor, even the bad ones (they were forced to bow if you bowed, which would make them pour the water out from their head cavity, killing them)

Ghost-ish yokai/bakemono actually were more "evil" by nature on the whole(as in demonic/spiritual beings that were once human), but even then, it's not an absolute.

[TerranigmaFreak]

TMNT 3? I like it.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Galactus hit it on the nose.

pretty sure Galactus was just quoting splinter from TMNT 3

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Galactus hit it on the nose. Like any species, kappa aren't necessarily all evil. Tengu, kappa, kitsune, tanuki, even oni... there's tales of them being altruistic, heroic, or just... "normal" in demeanor. To say kappa weren't honorable, to boot, is actually patently wrong. They would actually DIE for their honor, even the bad ones (they were forced to bow if you bowed, which would make them pour the water out from their head cavity, killing them)

Ghost-ish yokai/bakemono actually were more "evil" by nature on the whole(as in demonic/spiritual beings that were once human), but even then, it's not an absolute.

I can't say I've heard that side of the story, but as a fellow weeb I will take your word on it. I don't think it's wrong to say they've been depicted as evil more often than good, though.

[Raven]

I believe Kappa's have been predominately depicted as jerks more then evil, but its doesn't go without saying they can't be semi good...um kappa's. I've read the story about the kappa's bowing and such, but I know unlike kitsune theres largely more stories of them being jerks. So its easier to think their nothing but evil demons.

If this really intertwines into the movie in some way or another, then my interests have really jumped again. Although it does give off some vibes of the IDW series I am really digging this aspect more then anything else I've seen come out of this movie.

[Cure]

I'd love to contribute, but the only kappa I know are of the candy variety.

[DarthEmpress]

Stories about kappa differ depending on who's telling them. Yes, kappa have traditionally been depicted as "morally ambiguous," if we're to use the Western term, but so have all Yokai, including the kitsune and tengu. Modern day adaptation of kappa range from cute water sprites to aggressive brutes. Once again, it depends on the story. I see no problem with this movie showcasing the kappa as more honorable; if anything, the gray nature of the Japanese supernatural realm provides an abundance of room for creativity.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

THIS IS GREAT! ACTUAL TIES TO JAPANESE FOLKLORE! I'm liking this movie more and more!

And once again, from the east asian history major to the haters- YES Kappa had honor, NO yokai such as kappa were not nesscessarily evil (demons in japan weren't always evil), YES ninja in Japanese follore could be heroic protectors of the people. (Ishikawa goemon people!) This is probably the closesest we've gotten to acutal japanese folklore with the turtles instead of orientalist-Hollywood-Frank Miller-vengence driven-B.S.- ninjas.

[ctt4lfecw]

At least they're TRYING to show respect to Asian culture in this movie.

[Slade]

Got a good laugh and some new info out of this thread.

[mistajee33]

Originally Posted by Cure

I'd love to contribute, but the only kappa I know are of the candy variety.

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[Cryomancer]

Well if you wanna see a movie about a kappa,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zDizZSfUE

[Powder]

I'm a sucker for weird Japanese flicks but even I couldn't make it through that one.