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Old 08-09-2014, 01:35 PM   #61
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Why would it get locked, we're on the topic of the box-office.

Yes, they wanted to continue the Spider-Man series but Raimi coudln't get a script to work to his liking and Tobey McGuire wasn't interested in going on. But that's not the point, the point is it made money, so a reboot or continuation was never not going to happen. It made money.

TMNT being a success, like it has been so far, is good for the franchise even if you don't like the direction. If it was a failure, we wouldn't see it come back. If it wasn't, no one would invest into making a new one considering the failure (plus it's box office running record).

I don't get how that's hard to understand. Then again, you said you completely disagreed with my last statement, so I guess you believe Studio's are in this business to lose money. Makes sense considering your rebuttals. Debate is now over.
Hawkeye, your new here so you probably don't know that if you argue over something stupid, threads get locked and you can get a temp ban.
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:37 PM   #62
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Well my bad, articles had me thinking they were comparing the opening days of both. No need to get hostile about it.
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Hawkeye, your new here so you probably don't know that if you argue over something stupid, threads get locked and you can get a temp ban.
Thanks for the warning Vicky!
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Hawkeye, your new here so you probably don't know that if you argue over something stupid, threads get locked and you can get a temp ban.
How is it arguing over something stupid? It's arguing over what success at the box office means... if that's stupid, then why do we even have a box office thread? I don't get it.

Maybe I found the wrong Ninja Turtle forums to join if you can't have a friendly debate.

And thanks for calling our debate stupid. Seems like a friendly place.
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:59 PM   #65
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How is it arguing over something stupid? It's arguing over what success at the box office means... if that's stupid, then why do we even have a box office thread? I don't get it.

Maybe I found the wrong Ninja Turtle forums to join if you can't have a friendly debate.

And thanks for calling our debate stupid. Seems like a friendly place.
The forum is ok sometimes except for the movie thead where everyone has been at each others throats over the movie as some people don't like change. Also we had a few trolls making arguements even worse. So it hasn't been pleasant for the last year or so. The mods have taken action and decided that if threads have arguements in, they will lock them, have a clean out of the nasty stuff and maybe give some people temp bans.

I just want this thread kept simple and just have TMNT box office results in.
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The forum is ok sometimes except for the movie thead where everyone has been at each others throats over the movie as some people don't like change. Also we had a few trolls making arguements even worse. So it hasn't been pleasant for the last year or so. The mods have taken action and decided that if threads have arguements in, they will lock them, have a clean out of the nasty stuff and maybe give some people temp bans.

I just want this thread kept simple and just have TMNT box office results in.
Fair enough, I will respect your decision since you made the thread.

I was just saying how important a good showing at the box office is for TMNT 2014, regardless if you're a fan or not. I was not trying to sway from the topic.

Cowabunga, Vicky!

PS. I very much enjoyed the movie! It deserves the $60M.
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http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=tmnt2013.htm

So far TMNT has done:

Domestic $25,600,000,
Foreign $12,000,000
Worldwide $37,600,000
37600 worlidwide? But it has not been released worlwide yet. But if it managed to make 37+ millions of revenue even with so many countries that are left out due to delay releasethat a good sign for the movie
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Old 08-09-2014, 03:45 PM   #68
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37600 worlidwide? But it has not been released worlwide yet. But if it managed to make 37+ millions of revenue even with so many countries that are left out due to delay releasethat a good sign for the movie
It's released in 25 countries so far. The global gross will be slow at first but when more coutries get it, it will pick up.

Oh by the way the Worldwide is Foreign and Domestic together.
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Was this posted?

http://www.thewrap.com/ninja-turtles...at-box-office/

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Paramount's pizza-eating mutants on pace to top $60 million, knock Marvel's space cowboys from top spot

“Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” raced to an estimated $25 million first day Friday, putting Paramount's pizza-eating comic book reptiles on course for an opening weekend north of $60 million.

If they keep up that pace, they'll easily knock “Guardians of the Galaxy” out of the top spot at the box office. And it will mark the second weekend in a row that the No. 1 film will blast well past the projections of analysts, who had the super turtle tale landing between $45 million and $50 million.
Here's another one http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...t-ninja-724127

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UPDATED: The pizza-loving reptiles are performing far better than expected, toppling "Guardians of the Galaxy" from the top spot.
HELLZ YEA I knew this film was being underestimated. Cant wait to see what it makes by Monday

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37600 worlidwide? But it has not been released worlwide yet. But if it managed to make 37+ millions of revenue even with so many countries that are left out due to delay releasethat a good sign for the movie
I agree. This film is going to make bank. And TMNT 2 will be announced and us turtle fans can bust out the campaign. Are boys are on top were they belong

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:30 PM   #70
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I hate everything about this movie but I'm glad it's doing well at the box office so far. I'll never root against TMNT especially when there are so many outsiders that criticize the franchise and fanbase.

It's unfortunate we all couldn't get what we wanted out of this movie but hopefully they will improve if there is a sequel (hint: dump PD, Nemec, Applebaum and Liebesman). It'd be great to have a TMNT movie that is universally loved.
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I hate everything about this movie but I'm glad it's doing well at the box office so far. I'll never root against TMNT especially when there are so many outsiders that criticize the franchise and fanbase.

It's unfortunate we all couldn't get what we wanted out of this movie but hopefully they will improve if there is a sequel (hint: dump PD, Nemec, Applebaum and Liebesman). It'd be great to have a TMNT movie that is universally loved.
Yeah, I'm really surprised a lot of people here want this movie to flop so hard. I can't really imagine how this movie flopping will be somewhat good to the franchise.
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Yeah, I'm really surprised a lot of people here want this movie to flop so hard. I can't really imagine how this movie flopping will be somewhat good to the franchise.
Maybe because it sucked ass or something else.
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that was one day....how about we wait for the weekend is over before we start throwing numbers out
Yeah, that's the whole thing about the BO. It's not just OW, it's about LEGS! Legs can make or break a movie, even with an enormous opening weekend.

And to just look at things in other perspective. GOTG, looks to not be having a 50ish % drop, but a possible, near 70% drop, which sometimes indicated the audience may not like it enough to go back for second viewings.

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The Spider-Man reboot that you brought up made no sense. It was rebooted because they were done with their story and it made an insane amount of money.
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This isn't just for you Hawkeye, but for anyone wondering why certain franchises are being rebooted/continued on and others are not. Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and X-Men are marvel properties that were contracted out to Sony and Fox. The jest of the contract is, those studios must have a movie come out no later than 5 years to keep the rights to distribute the franchise, failure to do this will result in those franchises falling back to Marvel studios. This is why we are not seeing Spider-Man and Wolverine in the Avengers. Anyone thinking of using Spider-Man, Fantastic Four or X-men as part of their arguments that a TMNT movie will be rebooted because these other three CBM have been already lost that argument. TMNT owners don't have to worry about losing rights, so if a movie isn't making money and they feel the franchise is limited on the big screen, then they just might scrap it altogether until one day a new CEO takes over and tries to give it a shot. Now, this did happen with X-Men, once Fox idiot Tom Rothman was let go from Fox because of his insistence on not leaving directors and producers alone, Bryan Singer finally came back to right the wrongs from X-Men 3 and the Wolverine origins. It is possible we could see a similar shake up with TMNT in 7 to 10 years.

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http://www.thewrap.com/ninja-turtles...at-box-office/



Here's another one http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...t-ninja-724127



HELLZ YEA I knew this film was being underestimated. Cant wait to see what it makes by Monday



I agree. This film is going to make bank. And TMNT 2 will be announced and us turtle fans can bust out the campaign. Are boys are on top were they belong
I predicted this thing making 66 million OW about a week ago! Huh, I'm better at this analysis sh!t than the professionals. I told you guys, whatever GOTG makes domestic, TMNT will make 30% less!

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Maybe because it sucked ass or something else.
So do you think that if this movie flops it will higher the chance that we'll get the TMNT that everybody wants?
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Had this on another thread, but I should have put this in the box office thread to begin with...

But that weekend gross would still be pretty pathetic. Even the new Godzilla made over $90 million on the weekend it came out.

And it didn't even have a current/successful show that is helping rake (as one person had said) around half a Billion Dollars in merchandise (the new Nick toon). Or the 'it being a Marvel film' excuse.

Let alone Transformers 4's business, which is a mountain compared to this.

Around $100 million for a Part 4's opening. Even if you want to say "well, it's Transformers."

It's still a Part 4! So it didn't even have the 'well, it's the first time seeing these characters in Live action after 20 years' curiosity thing going for this new Turtles flick, and a part 4 still dwarfed this new Turtles one.

And if someone says "But Guardians..." Godzilla had Amazing Spider-Man 2 to deal with, and that's a big blockbuster (or was supposed to be).

And Godzilla had films like that to deal with...and if someone goes "but Spidey was in its' 2nd/3rd week", well so was Guardians which is a lesser known brand than Spider-Man.

Plus films like Neighbors, which is something to stand up against since nowadays we are in a trend of R-rated comedies doing very well (The Heat, 21 Jump Street and its' sequel 22 Jump Street, The Hangover trilogy).

And Transformers 4 had films like How to Train Your Dragon 2 (for kids) and 22 Jump Street (for older folks) to deal with as well.
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I hate everything about this movie but I'm glad it's doing well at the box office so far. I'll never root against TMNT especially when there are so many outsiders that criticize the franchise and fanbase.

It's unfortunate we all couldn't get what we wanted out of this movie but hopefully they will improve if there is a sequel (hint: dump PD, Nemec, Applebaum and Liebesman). It'd be great to have a TMNT movie that is universally loved.
I agree with this 100%. and it is really refreshing to see someone that cares about the franchise enough to want a movie that he/she didn't care for to succeed. It's very selfless and nice to see around these parts.
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Maybe because it sucked ass or something else.
I wonder how long it will be... until we all see your name in red. Hopefully soon.
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Yeah, that's the whole thing about the BO. It's not just OW, it's about LEGS! Legs can make or break a movie, even with an enormous opening weekend.

And to just look at things in other perspective. GOTG, looks to not be having a 50ish % drop, but a possible, near 70% drop, which sometimes indicated the audience may not like it enough to go back for second viewings.



This isn't just for you Hawkeye, but for anyone wondering why certain franchises are being rebooted/continued on and others are not. Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and X-Men are marvel properties that were contracted out to Sony and Fox. The jest of the contract is, those studios must have a movie come out no later than 5 years to keep the rights to distribute the franchise, failure to do this will result in those franchises falling back to Marvel studios. This is why we are not seeing Spider-Man and Wolverine in the Avengers. Anyone thinking of using Spider-Man, Fantastic Four or X-men as part of their arguments that a TMNT movie will be rebooted because these other three CBM have been already lost that argument. TMNT owners don't have to worry about losing rights, so if a movie isn't making money and they feel the franchise is limited on the big screen, then they just might scrap it altogether until one day a new CEO takes over and tries to give it a shot. Now, this did happen with X-Men, once Fox idiot Tom Rothman was let go from Fox because of his insistence on not leaving directors and producers alone, Bryan Singer finally came back to right the wrongs from X-Men 3 and the Wolverine origins. It is possible we could see a similar shake up with TMNT in 7 to 10 years.



I predicted this thing making 66 million OW about a week ago! Huh, I'm better at this analysis sh!t than the professionals. I told you guys, whatever GOTG makes domestic, TMNT will make 30% less!
I will say.. I remember you saying this. And you were spot on. I think you've probably won are little bet as well lol.
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So do you think that if this movie flops it will higher the chance that we'll get the TMNT that everybody wants?
Maybe, just maybe they won't make another TMNT film nobody wants...
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Maybe, just maybe they won't make another TMNT film nobody wants...
Just because you didn't enjoy the movie doesn't mean nobody should.
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Maybe, just maybe they won't make another TMNT film nobody wants...
I'll second that.
Bet I get beat down for it too.
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Grats to Paramount and Platinum Dunes, I guess. They served up a weak movie and were rewarded for it. We'll continue to get weak plots with little to not character arcs for the sequels.

Oh well, guess it'll be in my retirement years before I can hope for a TMNT film I'll be able to consider good. Enjoy 'em for those that liked it.

With Guardians and dang near every other successful movie this year seeing a big drop off, I wonder how much of a drop TMNT will have next weekend. I still think they're going to see weak international results, though. Releases spread out all the way to December is a breeding ground for torrenting.

Or more specifically, will Guardians and TMNT both be toppled by Expendables 3 next weekend?
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