So what will happen if the majority of you like the movie?

[Jose Canseco]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

You're right about that. If Platinum Dunes is able to continue making TMNT movies then a lot of people won't like them. It has nothing to do with nostalgia and everything to do with a production company that can't make a good movie let alone a good TMNT movie.

I hope they keep it. I love the Turtles in the movie and the effects but honestly I hope they wear less accessories. Really my only gripe about the appearance.

[The True Shredder]

You liked it and you want other people to like it. Face it we all have different opinions. Just respect that okay?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Jose Canseco

The only people I know who enjoy that movie are huge ninja turtles fans and young adults who haven't seen it since they were kids. Calling it a classic is a but much. In the opening scene they inconspicuously work together to steal a wallet and then a ninja grabs it in broad daylight. The delivery of the lines by the Turtles is often cringe-worthy and the fact that splinter has to save the day despite the fact that he's malnourished and beaten bloody is silly.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read it a while. The first TMNT film is viewed the same way the 1989 Batman film is, they're classics and the first great comic book movies to come after Superman.

[Jose Canseco]

Originally Posted by The True Shredder

You liked it and you want other people to like it. Face it we all have different opinions. Just respect that okay?

I can totally respect that. I'm just saying the movies are objectively not that great.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read it a while. The first TMNT film is viewed the same way the 1989 Batman film is, they're classics and the first great comic book movies to come after Superman.

1989 Batman? Not that great.
Original Superman movies? Also not that great.
Objectively of course.

[Bossanova]

first off, i agree with everyone on here, my opinion is no better than any of yours. all that being said, the old movies which i love and are right up there with Ghostbusters, have so many flaws in it, for instance when Dons skating through the sewer after splinters speech and you see a human hand come into frame, if that were in the new movie people would tear it to shreds and boycott everything from this point forward. I guess for me its just easy to look past flaws that dont interfere with a good story, which is all any of these movies and comics are. the title itself lets you know it will be full of ridiculous concepts, which is my cup'o tea.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Everything fits with that film, that's why it's considered such a classic and untouchable.

Look, I like the first movie and all, but this is only true if you ignore the barrage of slapstick and one-liners that accompany the fight scenes. When it's on, it's on, but the movie has some major tone problems. I think the most remarkable thing about it may be how relatively faithful a comic adaptation it is at a time when that just wasn't a thing, and of course it's remarkably better than its sequels.

Re: Thread question: Nothing?

[JTH]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The first TMNT film is viewed the same way the 1989 Batman film is, they're classics and the first great comic book movies to come after Superman.

Actually Cubed, if you were to walk up to an unbiased movie fan and try to compare TMNT 1 to the Batman or Superman movies, you'd be laughed all the way to China.

TMNT 1 is not considered a classic by anybody except Turtles' fans.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by JTH

Actually Cubed, if you were to walk up to an unbiased movie fan and try to compare TMNT 1 to the Batman or Superman movies, you'd be laughed all the way to China.

TMNT 1 is not considered a classic by anybody except Turtles' fans.

I'd totally take the Batman comparison, just on the basis that Burton's Batman films aren't very good. You could even get away with it for any of the latter three original Superman movies.

Put me on the laughing-to-China boat for a Superman I comparison though.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

To me, Burton's first Batman movie is the greatest movie of all time.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Cipher

I'd totally take the Batman comparison, just on the basis that Burton's Batman films aren't very good. You could even get away with it for any of the latter three original Superman movies.

Put me on the laughing-to-China boat for a Superman I comparison though.

The Superman Donner cut is pretty good though.
3 wasn't great, but 4 was the dog.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I don't think you'll have to worry about if 'the majority of you like it.'

At best, this is an extremely Divided movie.

It really is The Phantom Menace all over again, which is another Highly Divided film.

For people who say that's laughable...truth is, that isn't an 'every single person hates it' movie that some people might think, especially when it first came out.

Even in today's age, on IMDB Phantom Menace has a 6.6 (higher than the new turtles film, which has a 6.4). Even the first Turtles film almost has the same mark as The Phantom Menace (1990 Turtles has a 6.7).

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

Originally Posted by Jose Canseco

I can totally respect that. I'm just saying the movies are objectively not that great.



1989 Batman? Not that great.
Original Superman movies? Also not that great.
Objectively of course.

Objectively? Hell nah. Just cause you say they aren't good it doesn't mean that they are legitimately terrible movies.

[strawberryfields]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read it a while. The first TMNT film is viewed the same way the 1989 Batman film is, they're classics and the first great comic book movies to come after Superman.

No. Batman '89 was respected by critics and fans, TMNT 1990 was respected by fans (mostly children).

I love tmnt 1990 but you can't compare it to Batman

[Jester]

Originally Posted by strawberryfields

No. Batman '89 was respected by critics and fans, TMNT 1990 was respected by fans (mostly children).

I love tmnt 1990 but you can't compare it to Batman

Part of me wonders if that has to do with age of the franchise. Back when TMNT came out the franchise was only 5 years old. Batman was MUCH older. Many critics grew up with Batman so it wasn't so outlandish to have an big budget Batman flick. Not saying that the 1st Turtle movie is comparable to Burton's Batman, but it is something that has to be taken into account.

[Zulithe]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I don't think you'll have to worry about if 'the majority of you like it.'

At best, this is an extremely Divided movie.

It really is The Phantom Menace all over again, which is another Highly Divided film.

For people who say that's laughable...truth is, that isn't an 'every single person hates it' movie that some people might think, especially when it first came out.

Even in today's age, on IMDB Phantom Menace has a 6.6 (higher than the new turtles film, which has a 6.4). Even the first Turtles film almost has the same mark as The Phantom Menace (1990 Turtles has a 6.7).

The Phantom Menace was better than TMNT 2014. Way better.

TMNT has better jokes though.

[The True Shredder]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

The Phantom Menace was better than TMNT 2014. Way better.

TMNT has better jokes though.

At least Phantom Menace had Liam f.ucking Neeson playing as Qui Gon Jin. Now if only if they took out Jar Jar Binks the film would have been mediocre to good.

[strawberryfields]

Originally Posted by Jester

Part of me wonders if that has to do with age of the franchise. Back when TMNT came out the franchise was only 5 years old. Batman was MUCH older. Many critics grew up with Batman so it wasn't so outlandish to have an big budget Batman flick. Not saying that the 1st Turtle movie is comparable to Burton's Batman, but it is something that has to be taken into account.

Only time will tell. Batman was already 60ish years old when Batman 89 came out, hopefully Turtles will still be around when the franchise reaches that age. My guess is that they will always exist in one form or another

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I don't think you'll have to worry about if 'the majority of you like it.'

At best, this is an extremely Divided movie.

It really is The Phantom Menace all over again, which is another Highly Divided film.

For people who say that's laughable...truth is, that isn't an 'every single person hates it' movie that some people might think, especially when it first came out.

Even in today's age, on IMDB Phantom Menace has a 6.6 (higher than the new turtles film, which has a 6.4). Even the first Turtles film almost has the same mark as The Phantom Menace (1990 Turtles has a 6.7).

Nobody was arguing that Phantom Menace was better than any of the previous star wars films. Even defenders of the film were quick to admit it was the worst star wars film. With the new turtles movie most people (not everyone) will agree that it is not the worst turtles movie made, and many agree that its second only to the 1990 film

[Shark_Blade]

Actually I think Phantom Menace is the greatest SW film ever. Reason as below:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I thought Phantom Menace is the best. Here's how I rank them:

1. Phantom Menace
2. Return of the Jedi (nice but good God, George Lucas had to add in those godawful cartoony CGIs in the blu ray version.. I much prefer original untainted version. Reflect better for that time period's film quality)
3. A New Hope
4. Emperor's Strike Back
5. Attack of the Clones (terrible big baby acting by Anakin)
6. Revenge of the Sith (terrible big baby acting by Anakin)

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I can't take Hayden's Anakin seriously tbh. Everytime he talks (more like mumbling, and most time they felt forced and unnatural), throws a tantrum or cries, I laughed. He's like a big spoiled baby. Such dreadful actor.

I can list loads of things why I like Phantom Menace. Jarr Jarr is the only jarring (pun intended) thing I guess but I can easily overlook that.

Pros


- Duel of Fates : Most kickass epic song ever to be produced in SW history imo.





- Darth Maul > Darth Vader/Darth Sidious/Darth whatevers. He's lethal and dangerous, quick, pose a threat and look the most menacing. He's not slow or such a drag like Vader. And he doesn't talk much or drawl or monologue on and on like the others that bores you to tears. Action speaks louder than words.




- First time ever 2 Jedis fighting together
- Liam Neeson is a great actor. When he talks I can't help but put my entire focus and attention on him. Very charismatic and gripping.





- Planet Naboo is beautiful. The city, the Palace, it's interior, magnificent.
- Costumes are excellent.




- Female empowerment with modern style: Queen Amidala. I love that ethnic style (kinda japanese makeup) and fashion she got going, very unique and sophisticated.

- Story is straightforward back to basic saving damsel in distress (but the girl is not completely helpless or useless. No, Amidala was strong), yet immersive and enjoyable for me. And I guess I'm traditional in that sense, I love saving the girl kinda story.

And I'm sure there's loads other reasons to love Phantom Menace that I've yet to cover.

So for TMNT to be compared to it by fans is such a huge honor.

[Leo656]

Maul has a sh*tty Superkick. Mine is way better. He very clearly whiffed it.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Maul has a sh*tty Superkick. Mine is way better. He very clearly whiffed it.

He used the Force on his boot soles, no Jedi can beat that.