Sequel Announced for June 3rd 2016

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

Legend is the only fantasy movie I like that isn't a adaptation of anything.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

I think right there should be your biggest red flag as to why this next movie is doomed. If they're not confident in the stories they're trying to create and are so afraid of changing certain things due to fan backlash, what makes us think they're competent and confident enough to write better stories?

It makes me kind of sick actually. Very terrible news.



This is what I'm hoping for, but what makes me nervous is they've already set a date. Sure, this could change...but look at Amazing Spider-Man 2. When that was released in 2012, it was a modest hit but it was good enough to set a date for May of this year. Obviously any Spider-Man fan can tell you what a piece of garbage that film is and I'm afraid we'll probably see a pattern with TMNT 2 in 2016.

I wish this would take a Green Lantern path and just fall off already.

Whew, glad you're here - you can take the heat off me for a bit.
gah, I've been pitchforked and torched over my disdain for the new film.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

People don't watch Legend for Tom Cruise and his Jack. They watch it for the Unicorns, a dark Mia Sara, and Tim Curry! The latter, one of the most underrated actors in the business.

Dark Lily = *swoon*. That dress is seriously exquisite.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Question. How can Tim Curry be "underrated" when he's been in everything that's ever been made? Seriously, just turn on your TV and flick channels at random, and you'll land on Tim Curry an average of 38 times every 60 seconds.

Snicker.

That voice though... it's magic. It's like if sex and velvet married, Tim Curry's voice is their sensuous baby.

[Werecat]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

From the script that has their names on it.

Nemec and Applebaum were the originators of alien turtles and a military Foot (and Colonel Schraeder) which is why I'm pissed they're working on the sequel. I've seen what their version of a TMNT script is and it's bad.....really bad.

Evan Dougherty was brought in to rewrite their crappy script. Liebesman didn't have any hand in the script or the rewrites.

That is odd 'cause I thought the script got leaked in 2012 when Andre Nemec and Josh Applebaum weren't apart of it yet. Jonathan Liebesman tends to always get involved with the writing and I would guess the blue door script was actually his. Since the director usually pitches his script first. Then hires other writers to rewrite and edit it. Josh and Andre were called to rewrite the script.

Also Josh and Andre have a great record. Their work is usually rated with an average of 7/10 and they got a 90% for Mission Impossible which only had those two writing it. Evan Daughtery on the other hand has a poor record and usually has score of 4/10.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Whew, glad you're here - you can take the heat off me for a bit.
gah, I've been pitchforked and torched over my disdain for the new film.

Hey, all good. There's more of us here leading the charge of those who think the movie is garbage than we think.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by M-Frame

I think a lot of the reason the movie feels so rushed/patched together and disjointed is due to scenes being removed/re-shot last minute partly 'cuz of negative reactions from fans. It's pretty heartbreaking, really. I think if the studio ignored fanboys and trolls/nerds and stuck to their guns as far as the route they were initially taking with the movie, we would've a got a more cohesive, connected, fleshed-out story...... but also a white Shredder. Unfortunately due to ****** circumstances (Both PD and angry nerds are to blame), we couldn't have it both ways.

If they'd stuck to their guns and ignored the "fanboys" we would have gotten alien turtles and Shredder.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Werecat

That is odd 'cause I thought the script got leaked in 2012 when Andre Nemec and Josh Applebaum weren't apart of it yet. Jonathan Liebesman tends to always get involved with the writing and I would guess the blue door script was actually his. Since the director usually pitches his script first. Then hires other writers to rewrite and edit it. Josh and Andre were called to rewrite the script.

Also Josh and Andre have a great record. Their work is usually rated with an average of 7/10 and they got a 90% for Mission Impossible which only had those two writing it. Evan Daughtery on the other hand has a poor record and usually has score of 4/10.

Don't know what to tell you other than you've been under the wrong impression.

Nemec and Applebaum were hired in June 2011
http://m.deadline.com/2011/06/paramo...ninja-turtles/

The Blue Door script with Nemec and Applebaum's names on it is dated January 2012.

Liebesman wasn't hired until February 2012 after Blue Door was completed.
http://www.slashfilm.com/battle-los-...ninja-turtles/

So you can stop championing Nemec and Applebaum. Their original script started this mess.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=105756

I do not mind Liesbsman (sp?) returning, I mind the writers returning; I cannot believe they were paid to rehash the storyline from the Amazing Spider-Man.

Whack.

I would love the same fight team to return, Splinter vs the Foot, and Splinter vs Shredder rivals choreography in some modern action films.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I do not mind Liesbsman (sp?) returning, I mind the writers returning; I cannot believe they were paid to rehash the storyline from the Amazing Spider-Man.

I kind of do. He's a studio puppet and has no real value he brings to any of his movies. He's the opposite of what a director should be, he's just a little yes man.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Question. How can Tim Curry be "underrated" when he's been in everything that's ever been made? Seriously, just turn on your TV and flick channels at random, and you'll land on Tim Curry an average of 38 times every 60 seconds.

And yeah, I don't often agree with Bam Margera, but "Unicorns Are Pretty Kick-Ass."

Especially the one in Cabin in the Woods! I'm shocked we haven't seen this yet, a bunch of mutated unicorns going on a killing spree in NYC or something.

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Hey, all good. There's more of us here leading the charge of those who think the movie is garbage than we think.

I get more passionate about it, because there could have been something good in it, and it's so frustrating to see the hack job unfurl, knowing I could have done a better script, hell, half of the internet fanfiction writers could have done a better script, and we didn't even have to be paid.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I do not mind Liesbsman (sp?) returning, I mind the writers returning; I cannot believe they were paid to rehash the storyline from the Amazing Spider-Man.

Whack.

I would love the same fight team to return, Splinter vs the Foot, and Splinter vs Shredder rivals choreography in some modern action films.

Whatever man, it wasn't quite like the amazing spider man in that regard. The lizard wanted to turn citizens into mutant lizards. As for shredder? He wanted to kill people, the lizard thought that by using the stuff that he used on himself that humans would be better off as mutant lizards. Shred head didn't want to use the gas to improve the human race.

[NinjaPug]

One thing I wish they'd do with this sequel is hire The Imaginarium to do all motion capture work. They won't because it's cheaper to use untrained actors but it'd be cool to have Serkis and crew involved.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

I kind of do. He's a studio puppet and has no real value he brings to any of his movies. He's the opposite of what a director should be, he's just a little yes man.

Nothing short of a complete overhaul will do. Toss it all away.
Yes, keep ILM - the designs weren't their fault, but drop PD altogether, and don't rehire the creature designer. He was the biggest problem, without a doubt.

They should have been a lot more transparent from the start. why not be upfront, and ask for feedback. tweet the designs out early if you're not sure how an audience will respond, what's the big secret? They let an awful Halloween costume be the reveal.

Other studios have done it, why play this hush hush game?

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Nothing short of a complete overhaul will do. Toss it all away.
Yes, keep ILM - the designs weren't their fault, but drop PD altogether, and don't rehire the creature designer. He was the biggest problem, without a doubt.

They should have been a lot more transparent from the start. why not be upfront, and ask for feedback. tweet the designs out early if you're not sure how an audience will respond, what's the big secret? They let an awful Halloween costume be the reveal.

Other studios have done it, why play this hush hush game?

I was under the impression, when Nick and Ciro were getting the current show tuned up, I heard they actually consulted several hard core TMNT fans across the country, including some from here, so they knew what would work, what wouldn't, and what they could invent on their own without pissing anyone off too much. I just want to know, how come the movie creators couldn't have gone down this route? It's like, they watched a couple of 80's TMNT, maybe Eastman told them some snippets here and there, but most of it, they were just pulling it out of their own ass. It's like that quote from Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park

If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now"

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I wonder if there are people who, deep down, now wanted to see the 'whacked out/alien/Blue Door Script Version'...who knows, maybe in a decade or two, someone will do a documentary on that...kind of like this one:

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Nothing short of a complete overhaul will do. Toss it all away.
Yes, keep ILM - the designs weren't their fault, but drop PD altogether, and don't rehire the creature designer. He was the biggest problem, without a doubt.

They should have been a lot more transparent from the start. why not be upfront, and ask for feedback. tweet the designs out early if you're not sure how an audience will respond, what's the big secret? They let an awful Halloween costume be the reveal.

Other studios have done it, why play this hush hush game?

My thoughts were they weren't confident in this film as it was wrapping uo, but they hoped that because it's a franchise name that it would be a big deal and hopefully do well. Welp, now they're seeing the fruits of their "labor" and finding out people are naive enough to accept something just based on name recognition.

It's the only reason I can assume why they played the quiet game for so long and the first piece of an image we got was the frickin' Halloween costume.

Originally Posted by ScrewtheMirageTMNT

Whatever man, it wasn't quite like the amazing spider man in that regard. The lizard wanted to turn citizens into mutant lizards. As for shredder? He wanted to kill people, the lizard thought that by using the stuff that he used on himself that humans would be better off as mutant lizards. Shred head didn't want to use the gas to improve the human race.

Same way to go about, just a little change of the result. They even have the tower falling over just like in ASM.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I wonder if there are people who, deep down, now wanted to see the 'whacked out/alien/Blue Door Script Version'...who knows, maybe in a decade or two, someone will do a documentary on that...kind of like this one:

Hmmm, after all of these years, Steve Barron is finally going to be releasing a documentary/novel on what he had to go through with the first TMNT movie. Apparently it wasn't all rainbows and ponies that we thought it was.

[Leo656]

That sucks, I like rainbows and ponies.

[TMNTChris1980]

This is total BS, there is no way they're making a sequel to that garbage that just came out. Again, they are pushing from every angle that this wasn't a failure "Beat GotG for top spot", "Releasing a sequel", etc... I've said this before and I'll say it again, Viacom is not happy about these results.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchi...njaturtles.htm

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Ugh...same script writers.