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It would certainly make more sense if he was. When Shredder shows up in the sewers you can hear the hatred in Splinter's voice when he says "Shredder" But he had no reason to hate him or even to even know who he was.
I'm guessing its a line that was recorded and they just went with it. It will be interesting to see if the truth about this movie's development ever comes to light because there has to be a reason for all the inconsistencies. |
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I think the scene with Eric Sacks shooting at April and Vern was a reshoot as well. Either that or it was originally meant to happen at another time. Also Sacks dies even though Fichtner signed a 3 picture deal??? That's because we WAS the Shredder and they changed it. Sacks was the best and most interesting character in the whole film. What happened with Sacks being "Obsessed with the armor"? What happened to "We find out that Eric Sachs is someone else too." Yes most of the time when asked if he was the Shredder, Fichtner would say "I play a character named Eric Sacks" but there were a few occasions where he flat out said "Yes". They should have kept him as the Shredder. Now with a sequel announced already, I doubt that we'll ever get to see an original cut of the film. Also it was never confirmed that the Shredder is Oroku Saki. He's just some Asian guy.
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The original film would have been even worse. Unless Sachs original plan wasn't this stupid 'mutagen cures the plague' thing.
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They could have changed the plan. What happened to "That's what your father and I were trying to do, create heroes"? Or what about that one teaser trailer where Leo says "We were created as weapons"? Not even a mention of this in the final film. I think they cut it up so much to change Shredder, that they had to change the entire evil plan. When I watched the film, I noticed that every time Sacks mentions the Shredder, it's always a cut away shot where you don't actually see him say it. I think "Project Renaissance" was changed.
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The funny thing is Sachs had a role that would have been better suited to either Karai or Baxter Stockman now.
Instead we have this pointless Eric Sachs character over someone else. I can't help but realize we missed out on having a great Baxter role in a movie. |
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There would still be other problems, but that would've been a big part of it. He i Baxter in all but name anyway.
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If he was, I sort of wish they didn't change it.
I didn't want him to be Shredder himself, just a student of Shredder while he was in Japan. The robo suit would of made more sense then. I think after the whole alien thing, they panicked. I would love so much to see all the unused footage they have. |
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Maybe I'm just trying too hard to make sense of a plot that doesn't make much sense on any level anyway? ![]() Wouldn't surprise me at all. I recall that whole sequence feeling especially rushed and sloppy.
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And it's getting a sequel!! Hahaha oh my god
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So, that article more or less confirms what I suspected all along, that they kept what they could from the Blue Door script, more or less made up the rest on the fly, made it all up on the fly again at the last minute, threw it in a blender, and called it a movie. No full "script" or even basic idea of what the story was that they were trying to tell, because inside of a few months it went from being completely one thing into a completely different thing.
Nice. Nice. You know these guys shouldn't be making movies, right? |
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You make it sound like it was a bad thing but sometimes things like this can turn out a better product like say Samurai Pizza Cats, and from what we know of the original version, this version we got was much better.
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I think, based on how the entire project was planned and executed over the last three or so years, that the entire thing was flawed from the start, because it was in the hands of exactly the wrong type of people, and there was nothing they could have made that would have turned out "good".
These guys should not be working. The way they make films is bad, thus, they make bad films. Their catalog of work more or less proves that the approach they take to film making is fundamentally flawed and that they are incapable of producing anything of quality. With or without the last minute changes, the movie still would likely have been underwhelming, simply because the people involved don't know how to make a good movie at all, regardless. |
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The people on this forum that applaud this movie are basically proving these guys right.
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Am I crazy or does it sound like William Fichtner as Shredder at 1:03 in this French trailer?
Also, were these bits from the trailer in the final film? April: Ninja Turtles? April: These guys are heroes. People need to see this. I’ve only seen the film once and it was in a theater filled with rowdy kids, so I don’t recall. Last edited by Blips; 08-14-2014 at 12:09 AM. Reason: fix link |
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It was never going to be a film. From the beginning, it was product.
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I still dont understand why nickelodeon choose a company like PD to produce the film in the first place. It's like they wanted the film to be s**t from the beginning.
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