Teenage mutant hero turtles? - Page 4

*Candy Kappa* · 02-23-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rpd123

But you're right, how dare he!?

it's not the first time

Longview01 · 02-25-2013, 05:01 PM

I've still got aload of my hero turtles comics in the loft...maybe I will dig them out tomorrow and put some pics up

*snake* · 02-25-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Longview01

I've still got aload of my hero turtles comics in the loft...maybe I will dig them out tomorrow and put some pics up

That would be MUCH appreciated.

Longview01 · 02-25-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

That would be MUCH appreciated.

I would do it now but its 12am and my wife would kill me if she woke up to find me pulling boxes out the loft looking for turtles comics lol.

But I was at my parents house on Sunday and they had aload of old stuff out and there was some of my toys as a kid and I spotted my Cheapskate so decided to bring it home.

Here's a pic of that for now

Was really hard to get a pic so excuse the crappy quality

*Coola Yagami* · 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM

I'm not seeing it as 'America is number 1' or whatever, but why did we have our cartoon show altered for what other countries think? Has there ever been another example of this? Has some cartoon in France or whatever been changed and added extra 'American references' because otherwise Americans wouldn't have liked it?
It's like anime being completely tame and censored in its native country because Americans or some other country can't take it.

I'm just curious.... has there been any other cartoon changed or messed because of what some other country thinks? Was the Batman and Robin butchered because people in Ireland wanted it to be like the Adam West version?

Avatar Yuffie · 02-28-2013, 10:01 PM

It happens.

For example, Robotech is the mutation of three different anime shows (Macross, Sothern Cross and Mospeada) squished together and insisted it's one timeline/universe.

Then we have Voltron Lion/Voltron machines.

*snake* · 03-01-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

It happens.

For example, Robotech is the mutation of three different anime shows (Macross, Sothern Cross and Mospeada) squished together and insisted it's one timeline/universe.

Then we have Voltron Lion/Voltron machines.

Ya ever hear of power rangers......

Keroscene · 03-02-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I'm not seeing it as 'America is number 1' or whatever, but why did we have our cartoon show altered for what other countries think? Has there ever been another example of this? Has some cartoon in France or whatever been changed and added extra 'American references' because otherwise Americans wouldn't have liked it?
It's like anime being completely tame and censored in its native country because Americans or some other country can't take it.

I'm just curious.... has there been any other cartoon changed or messed because of what some other country thinks? Was the Batman and Robin butchered because people in Ireland wanted it to be like the Adam West version?

You're still not getting it. It's not "your" cartoon, it's a cartoon that happened to be made in America for international audiences. If it hadn't appealed to international audiences, it may well have been considered a failure. And it's not "what other countries think," it's a couple of incredibly minor alterations made in line with broadcasting guidelines in other countries. To say it was butchered is an exaggeration, because the vast majority of TMHT was the same as TMNT.

Given that the turtles hardly ever used their weapons by season 4 anyway, and were more likely to use a pizza or a watermelon in a fight, getting rid of the nunchuks in the original American version made hardly any difference. It's not like this was a hardcore ninja action show and mean old Britain forced America to change it into something else. The people who produced the show obviously felt it was worth making those changes because the international audience was important to the show.

Ryanator008 · 03-02-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Ya ever hear of power rangers......

At least in the later seasons they stopped.

HeroTurtlesFan · 03-04-2013, 05:57 AM

Hey all!

Long time lurker, first time poster etc etc. In fact, it was this thread that finally motivated me to register. Felt like I had to defend us Brits!

Some here are decrying it as all the UK's fault that Michaelangelo lost his weapons from season 5. But are you ready for a shock? THE UK NEVER GOT SEASON 5!

In fact, the only complete seasons that were edited into "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" were seasons 2-3. These were the only seasons that were broadcast by the BBC. Season 1 was also hacked up into a VHS release called "How It All Began".

So, if the makers of the show really did do that for little old us, they were wasting their time...

Not sure if other parts of Europe got more (probably).

On the "Hero Turtles" point, maybe it's my age; maybe it's not being a diehard fan; maybe it's nostalgia... but am I the only one who has fond memories of those HERO Turtles?

Even as a 10 year old, I knew they were "Ninja" in the States (my uncle lived in America around this time, and would bring me back some Ninja-branded toys and trading cards), but I hardly felt that I was being deprived. I WAS annjoyed that we got an edited version of the live-action movie though (I knew it was edited, as I'd seen the unedited version via less-than-honest means).

I still have all my Hero Turtles comics, books, figures etc and they'll always be "my" turtles!

Incidentally, the sensitivity around nunchukus seemed to get worse between 1987-1989 here in the UK. "Thundercats" was first broadcast in 1987, and the episodes were complete with Panthro's nunchuku action. Fast forward to the 1989 repeat run, and the very same episodes were edited to remove all such scenes. TMHT debuted January 1990, obviously suffering the same fate.

Longview01 · 03-04-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HeroTurtlesFan

In fact, the only complete seasons that were edited into "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" were seasons 2-3. These were the only seasons that were broadcast by the BBC. Season 1 was also hacked up into a VHS release called "How It All Began".

I'm going to have to pull you up on this as I am from the UK.

There was seasons past season 3 that were edited into "hero Turtles" but they were not broadcast on the BBC they were broadcast on Sky one during the DJ Cat Show upto 95 when it was cancelled.

DJ Cat even used to wear a Hero Turtles T-shirt and they constantly referenced it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klu9Lmau08g

*pferreira* · 03-07-2013, 07:57 AM

Yeah I remember being really happy to come home and watch new episodes of the show you couldn't see on the BBC. Sky 1 even showed Season 1 which made Season 2 make much more sense.

hudemx · 03-07-2013, 12:13 PM

Knowing this it's much clearer why Season 1 was skipped in Germany as well (only the Edited together Epic Begins was shown as a special for the Seriespremiere back in 1990. Season 1 was eventually properly shown after Season 3 had completed it's run...

*Wesley* · 10-11-2014, 11:47 AM

In Ireland, the cartoon was initially known as Ninja Turtles and the intro was unedited when it debuted with the airing of the second season. After the first two episodes were broadcast, the name was changed to Hero Turtles and the intro was edited, except for season one. The names of episodes like The Unknown Ninja were left intact. In 2007-2008, episodes were aired in their unaired US form.

LadyTMNT · 10-11-2014, 01:01 PM

Pssh.... doesn't make sense, its better done this way:

After Ninja Turtles there is Samurai Turtles... keep the Asian Martial Arts alive, you know.

~~Davetello~~ · 10-11-2014, 02:03 PM

I still don't get why nunchaku were banned in UK entertainment but katana swords and sais weren't. I mean, if someone breaks into my house and threatens me, I'd far rather have a katana hiding behind the sofa than a nunchuck.

Then there's Shredder who's covered head to toe in blades and sharp metal.

That's censorship for you.

*discordiatookie* · 10-11-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Davetello

I still don't get why nunchaku were banned in UK entertainment but katana swords and sais weren't. I mean, if someone breaks into my house and threatens me, I'd far rather have a katana hiding behind the sofa than a nunchuck.

Then there's Shredder who's covered head to toe in blades and sharp metal.

That's censorship for you.

I think it was more to do with how easy it was for kids to replicate the weapons. Or something. Heh, I did make my own nunchucks using toilet roll tubes and string, stuffing the tubes with newspaper for a bit of weight. I probably could've been arrested for that

Hell, I don't even remember the censorship. Also, the figures still had the 'chucks.

*Discogod* · 10-12-2014, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Davetello

I still don't get why nunchaku were banned in UK entertainment but katana swords and sais weren't. I mean, if someone breaks into my house and threatens me, I'd far rather have a katana hiding behind the sofa than a nunchuck.

Then there's Shredder who's covered head to toe in blades and sharp metal.

That's censorship for you.

It was pretty much down to one man, James Ferman, who was the head of the BBFC from 1975-99. He had a mad hate for nunchuks, and wouldn't pass any film that featured them unless they were edited out. TMNT just happened to be one of the highest profile casualties of his regime...

Kingoji · 10-12-2014, 05:10 AM

Is it a fact that we in the UK only censored series 2 & 3? Because I remember that the first episode I saw (and it was definitely on it's first time airing) was the first appearance of Bebop and Rocksteady as mutants, and I remembered it being 'Hero' at that time...

*Discogod* · 10-12-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingoji

Is it a fact that we in the UK only censored series 2 & 3? Because I remember that the first episode I saw (and it was definitely on it's first time airing) was the first appearance of Bebop and Rocksteady as mutants, and I remembered it being 'Hero' at that time...

The whole series was edited, but only seasons 2 & 3 aired on the BBC.

02-25-2013, 06:35 PM	#65
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,693	I'm not seeing it as 'America is number 1' or whatever, but why did we have our cartoon show altered for what other countries think? Has there ever been another example of this? Has some cartoon in France or whatever been changed and added extra 'American references' because otherwise Americans wouldn't have liked it? It's like anime being completely tame and censored in its native country because Americans or some other country can't take it. I'm just curious.... has there been any other cartoon changed or messed because of what some other country thinks? Was the Batman and Robin butchered because people in Ireland wanted it to be like the Adam West version? __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

02-28-2013, 10:01 PM	#66
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	It happens. For example, Robotech is the mutation of three different anime shows (Macross, Sothern Cross and Mospeada) squished together and insisted it's one timeline/universe. Then we have Voltron Lion/Voltron machines. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

03-07-2013, 12:13 PM	#73
hudemx Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Klagenfurt Posts: 371	Knowing this it's much clearer why Season 1 was skipped in Germany as well (only the Edited together Epic Begins was shown as a special for the Seriespremiere back in 1990. Season 1 was eventually properly shown after Season 3 had completed it's run... __________________ German TMNT News Blog: http://ninjaturtlepower.wordpress.com/

10-11-2014, 11:47 AM	#74
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	In Ireland, the cartoon was initially known as Ninja Turtles and the intro was unedited when it debuted with the airing of the second season. After the first two episodes were broadcast, the name was changed to Hero Turtles and the intro was edited, except for season one. The names of episodes like The Unknown Ninja were left intact. In 2007-2008, episodes were aired in their unaired US form. Last edited by Wesley; 10-11-2014 at 11:55 AM.

10-12-2014, 05:10 AM	#79
Kingoji Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 319	Is it a fact that we in the UK only censored series 2 & 3? Because I remember that the first episode I saw (and it was definitely on it's first time airing) was the first appearance of Bebop and Rocksteady as mutants, and I remembered it being 'Hero' at that time... __________________ If you can't take your 'Ninja Turtles' with a knowing wink and a smile on your face then what have you got left?

02-25-2013, 05:01 PM	#62
Longview01 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 202	I've still got aload of my hero turtles comics in the loft...maybe I will dig them out tomorrow and put some pics up

03-04-2013, 05:57 AM	#70
HeroTurtlesFan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 265	Hey all! Long time lurker, first time poster etc etc. In fact, it was this thread that finally motivated me to register. Felt like I had to defend us Brits! Some here are decrying it as all the UK's fault that Michaelangelo lost his weapons from season 5. But are you ready for a shock? THE UK NEVER GOT SEASON 5! In fact, the only complete seasons that were edited into "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" were seasons 2-3. These were the only seasons that were broadcast by the BBC. Season 1 was also hacked up into a VHS release called "How It All Began". So, if the makers of the show really did do that for little old us, they were wasting their time... Not sure if other parts of Europe got more (probably). On the "Hero Turtles" point, maybe it's my age; maybe it's not being a diehard fan; maybe it's nostalgia... but am I the only one who has fond memories of those HERO Turtles? Even as a 10 year old, I knew they were "Ninja" in the States (my uncle lived in America around this time, and would bring me back some Ninja-branded toys and trading cards), but I hardly felt that I was being deprived. I WAS annjoyed that we got an edited version of the live-action movie though (I knew it was edited, as I'd seen the unedited version via less-than-honest means). I still have all my Hero Turtles comics, books, figures etc and they'll always be "my" turtles! Incidentally, the sensitivity around nunchukus seemed to get worse between 1987-1989 here in the UK. "Thundercats" was first broadcast in 1987, and the episodes were complete with Panthro's nunchuku action. Fast forward to the 1989 repeat run, and the very same episodes were edited to remove all such scenes. TMHT debuted January 1990, obviously suffering the same fate.

03-07-2013, 07:57 AM	#72
pferreira Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,514	Yeah I remember being really happy to come home and watch new episodes of the show you couldn't see on the BBC. Sky 1 even showed Season 1 which made Season 2 make much more sense.

10-11-2014, 01:01 PM	#75
LadyTMNT Thug Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 63	Pssh.... doesn't make sense, its better done this way: After Ninja Turtles there is Samurai Turtles... keep the Asian Martial Arts alive, you know.

10-11-2014, 02:03 PM	#76
~~Davetello~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Glasgow, Scotland, The Ununited Kingdom Posts: 1,712	I still don't get why nunchaku were banned in UK entertainment but katana swords and sais weren't. I mean, if someone breaks into my house and threatens me, I'd far rather have a katana hiding behind the sofa than a nunchuck. Then there's Shredder who's covered head to toe in blades and sharp metal. That's censorship for you.