TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament: Of Rats & Men vs. The Good, Bad, & Casey Jones

*JTH* · 11-02-2014, 04:59 PM

Welcome everyone to the TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament. It's Round 2, Match 2. After the first match blow out, will the second match up be a ccloser bout? Round 2 polls will be a 3 day and a private vote poll, unless you decide to post your choice of course.

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Last time, The Invasion showed it is indeed the episode to beat after giving a first class beat down of the 17 seed Mikey Gets Shellacne. Any episode that faces the season finale will indeed has their work cut out for them, which will be one of these two episodes next.

Previous Poll & Thread here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=49931

Here's the Official Updated Tournament Bracket:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...455365&tclass=

Want to see where your favorite episodes are, check the official rankings here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...3&postcount=19

If the 16 vs. 17 matchup showed us anything, it's the seed matches that are one seed off will be exciting ones. So it's time for the 8 vs. 9 match. Will the high seed serve it's spot, or will the lower seed pickup the upset again?

The episodes are...

THE RATS vs. THE BRATS

TALE OF THE TURTLE TAPE:

Overall Seed - #8
Where JTH ranked this episode - #13
Official IGN rating - 8.8/10
Overall Episode TV.com Voter Rating - 9.6/10
How the episode got here - Recieved #8 Seed and First Round Bye

Overall Seed - #9
Where JTH ranked this episode - #7
Official IGN rating - 8.7/10
Overall Episode TV.com Voter Rating - 9.7/10
How the episode got here - Defeated #24 Plan 10 in First Round

Winner Faces: #1 Seed The Invasion in Round 3

Cast your vote, and please remember...HAVE FUN!!!

*BabyTurtles* · 11-02-2014, 06:01 PM

This one is actually a hard choice XD (because they are both good and not both bad)

I'm gonna go with The Good, the Bad, and Casey Jones though cause it was one of the few episodes that had him in it and NO love triangle mention! perfect!! XD

also Raph and Case bro moments!

travelingcat · 11-02-2014, 06:41 PM

The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones. The scenes with Raph and Casey fighting against each other and then later fighting together are my favorite of the show so far.

*JTH* · 11-02-2014, 07:15 PM

This is interesting.

Both Rat King episodes achieved first round byes for these tournaments I've done. If this stands, neither Rat King episode will have won a match despite getting a bye. (#7 seed I, Monster lost to #10 seed Operation: Breakout last year after a first round bye)

Leo8414 · 11-02-2014, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JTH

This is interesting.

Both Rat King episodes achieved first round byes for these tournaments I've done. If this stands, neither Rat King episode will have won a match despite getting a bye. (#7 seed I, Monster lost to #10 seed Operation: Breakout last year after a first round bye)

Quick question which episode was the winner of the season 1 bracket?

Leo8414 · 11-02-2014, 10:50 PM

This was actually a tough choice. I went with the good,the bad,and casey jones. There was awesome moments in of rats and men. Such as the rat king returning. I love this version of the rat king...very undertakerish with the trench coat and the hat. Awesome ending with splinter defeating rat king. The best part was one of the best mutants ever..ICE CREAM KITTY!!! Also a bonus to get kevin eastman himself to voice ice cream kitty. All that though definitely took a slight back step to the good,the bad, and casey jones. This episode showed off the full blown casey that we know up to the point where this series is now. Several scenes majority of the episode was a homage to the 1990 flick. Raph was the first turtle meeting him,casey seeing raph all pissed off on another rooftop. The ending where they worked together to take down that one footbot was great as well. They become fast friends and as donnie said it "WE HAVE NOW TWO RAPHAELS" This would be a nice victory to either of these episodes because which ever wins has a tough tough task taking down the invasion. Not going to happen.

Gunpowder · 11-02-2014, 11:00 PM

Two great episodes. Hard to choose. But "Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" wins it for me because it was more original, whereas "Of Rats and Men" was basically "I, Monster" Part 2.

*Luckyday* · 11-02-2014, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunpowder

Two great episodes. Hard to choose. But "Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" wins it for me because it was more original, whereas "Of Rats and Men" was basically "I, Monster" Part 2.

But "Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" did a lot of referencing from the original TMNT movie?

Gunpowder · 11-02-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

But "Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" did a lot of referencing from the original TMNT movie?

I see that as a good thing.

By "original," I meant in the context of this show. It was more of its own thing, not just a continuation of a previous episode.

*JTH* · 11-03-2014, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo8414

Quick question which episode was the winner of the season 1 bracket?

#2 Seed Showdown beat #1 Seed Gauntlet in the Finals:

Here's the complete bracket in case you're wondering:

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...Best%20Episode

evan2000 · 11-03-2014, 03:57 AM

The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones got my vote in round #1, and again in round #2 here. Round #3 is going to be interesting if this one gets through... Leo one-shot vs Raph one-shot! Especially since we seem to have more Raph fans here than Leo's

Of Rats and Men was good with the return of the Rat King, though it's a lot like I, Monster with bigger mutant rats. It wasn't even in my original top 12 seeds to begin with. Intro of Ice Cream Kitty was a nice touch, but we have enjoyed seeing ICK even more in later episodes like Pizzaface and A Foot Too Big, not only in this debut episode.

Mukouno · 11-03-2014, 07:27 AM

Have to agree with most of you, 'Of Rats & Men' is basically the same as it's season 1 counterpart. It's a good episode but lacks some originality. Of course, there's ICK and she's just awesome!

But I see her more as part of the B-Plot.

So I'll give my vote to 'The Good, the Bad & Casey Jones', we finally get to see Raph and Casey together and man, am I loving these two! In general I'm a big fan of the bash brothers trope.
Oh, and awkward Raph apolizing to Leo always gets me. So cute.

*ssjup81* · 11-03-2014, 08:14 PM

I chose Of Rats and Men. I like both choices here, but I liked the Rat King stuff more given the different take on the character and the creepiness surrounding him.

With the Good, the Bad, and the Casey Jones, I was okay with the ep, until maybe the second half when Raph and Casey went off by themselves to catch that Footbot. I don't know why, but it kind of bored me. Loved the first half though.

Leo8414 · 11-03-2014, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTH

#2 Seed Showdown beat #1 Seed Gauntlet in the Finals:

Here's the complete bracket in case you're wondering:

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...Best%20Episode

Thank you very much. I appreciate that!

*Shark_Blade* · 11-04-2014, 03:21 AM

I'll go with Of Rats and Men, since I like Rat King's death scene at the end.

evan2000 · 11-04-2014, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I'll go with Of Rats and Men, since I like Rat King's death scene at the end.

I don't think he died. Something probably broke his fall and he is probably weakened for some time, but he will return, as all villains do.

*Shark_Blade* · 11-04-2014, 05:29 AM

Well I should put as his "death".

The Turtle Terminator · 11-04-2014, 12:57 PM

Dammmn. Although I like ORAM, TGTBACJ wins simply because everythings perfectly executed. And the Mirage one-shot/2003/1st movie homage doesn't hurt

*Warhorse* · 11-04-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

I chose Of Rats and Men. I like both choices here, but I liked the Rat King stuff more given the different take on the character and the creepiness surrounding him.

With the Good, the Bad, and the Casey Jones, I was okay with the ep, until maybe the second half when Raph and Casey went off by themselves to catch that Footbot. I don't know why, but it kind of bored me. Loved the first half though.

This is how I feel whenever it turns into the Donnie/April/Casey show. I love Apritello, not just to the point that it kicks the other three Turtles off into the abyss somewhere, and it's making Casey into a complete git.

LeoRaph · 11-04-2014, 07:55 PM

While I do like Of Rat & Men a lot, especially the introduction of ICK I gotta go with The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones.

Being a Raph fan, this was pretty damn good. There was great character development for him, lots of little nods to the 1990 movie and the 2K3 series and I liked seeing Casey and Raph's relationship develop. I actually thought the chasing scene wasn't boring at all, they had to work together due to the gravity of their situation and in doing so saved each other's lives which then developed into a mutual respect.

View Poll Results: Better Episode
#8 Of Rats and Men	14	42.42%
#9 The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones	19	57.58%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

11-04-2014, 12:57 PM	#18
The Turtle Terminator Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,110	Dammmn. Although I like ORAM, TGTBACJ wins simply because everythings perfectly executed. And the Mirage one-shot/2003/1st movie homage doesn't hurt __________________

11-02-2014, 04:59 PM	#1
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament: Of Rats & Men vs. The Good, Bad, & Casey Jones Welcome everyone to the TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament. It's Round 2, Match 2. After the first match blow out, will the second match up be a ccloser bout? Round 2 polls will be a 3 day and a private vote poll, unless you decide to post your choice of course. . Last time, The Invasion showed it is indeed the episode to beat after giving a first class beat down of the 17 seed Mikey Gets Shellacne. Any episode that faces the season finale will indeed has their work cut out for them, which will be one of these two episodes next. Previous Poll & Thread here: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=49931 Here's the Official Updated Tournament Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...455365&tclass= Want to see where your favorite episodes are, check the official rankings here: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...3&postcount=19 If the 16 vs. 17 matchup showed us anything, it's the seed matches that are one seed off will be exciting ones. So it's time for the 8 vs. 9 match. Will the high seed serve it's spot, or will the lower seed pickup the upset again? The episodes are... *THE RATS vs. THE BRATS* *TALE OF THE TURTLE TAPE:* Overall Seed - #8 Where JTH ranked this episode - #13 Official IGN rating - 8.8/10 Overall Episode TV.com Voter Rating - 9.6/10 How the episode got here - Recieved #8 Seed and First Round Bye Overall Seed - #9 Where JTH ranked this episode - #7 Official IGN rating - 8.7/10 Overall Episode TV.com Voter Rating - 9.7/10 How the episode got here - Defeated #24 Plan 10 in First Round Winner Faces: #1 Seed The Invasion in Round 3 Cast your vote, and please remember...HAVE FUN!!! Last edited by JTH; 11-04-2014 at 03:52 PM.

11-02-2014, 06:01 PM	#2
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	This one is actually a hard choice XD (because they are both good and not both bad) I'm gonna go with The Good, the Bad, and Casey Jones though cause it was one of the few episodes that had him in it and NO love triangle mention! perfect!! XD also Raph and Case bro moments! __________________

11-02-2014, 06:41 PM	#3
travelingcat Thug Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NC Posts: 64	The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones. The scenes with Raph and Casey fighting against each other and then later fighting together are my favorite of the show so far. __________________

11-02-2014, 07:15 PM	#4
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	This is interesting. Both Rat King episodes achieved first round byes for these tournaments I've done. If this stands, neither Rat King episode will have won a match despite getting a bye. (#7 seed I, Monster lost to #10 seed Operation: Breakout last year after a first round bye)

11-02-2014, 10:50 PM	#6
Leo8414 Mouser Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 8	This was actually a tough choice. I went with the good,the bad,and casey jones. There was awesome moments in of rats and men. Such as the rat king returning. I love this version of the rat king...very undertakerish with the trench coat and the hat. Awesome ending with splinter defeating rat king. The best part was one of the best mutants ever..ICE CREAM KITTY!!! Also a bonus to get kevin eastman himself to voice ice cream kitty. All that though definitely took a slight back step to the good,the bad, and casey jones. This episode showed off the full blown casey that we know up to the point where this series is now. Several scenes majority of the episode was a homage to the 1990 flick. Raph was the first turtle meeting him,casey seeing raph all pissed off on another rooftop. The ending where they worked together to take down that one footbot was great as well. They become fast friends and as donnie said it "WE HAVE NOW TWO RAPHAELS" This would be a nice victory to either of these episodes because which ever wins has a tough tough task taking down the invasion. Not going to happen.

11-02-2014, 11:00 PM	#7
Gunpowder Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 715	Two great episodes. Hard to choose. But "Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" wins it for me because it was more original, whereas "Of Rats and Men" was basically "I, Monster" Part 2. __________________ Jason Biggs was the best Leonardo.

11-03-2014, 03:57 AM	#11
evan2000 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Malaysia Posts: 858	The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones got my vote in round #1, and again in round #2 here. Round #3 is going to be interesting if this one gets through... Leo one-shot vs Raph one-shot! Especially since we seem to have more Raph fans here than Leo's Of Rats and Men was good with the return of the Rat King, though it's a lot like I, Monster with bigger mutant rats. It wasn't even in my original top 12 seeds to begin with. Intro of Ice Cream Kitty was a nice touch, but we have enjoyed seeing ICK even more in later episodes like Pizzaface and A Foot Too Big, not only in this debut episode.

11-03-2014, 07:27 AM	#12
Mukouno Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 130	Have to agree with most of you, 'Of Rats & Men' is basically the same as it's season 1 counterpart. It's a good episode but lacks some originality. Of course, there's ICK and she's just awesome! But I see her more as part of the B-Plot. So I'll give my vote to 'The Good, the Bad & Casey Jones', we finally get to see Raph and Casey together and man, am I loving these two! In general I'm a big fan of the bash brothers trope. Oh, and awkward Raph apolizing to Leo always gets me. So cute.

11-03-2014, 08:14 PM	#13
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	I chose Of Rats and Men. I like both choices here, but I liked the Rat King stuff more given the different take on the character and the creepiness surrounding him. With the Good, the Bad, and the Casey Jones, I was okay with the ep, until maybe the second half when Raph and Casey went off by themselves to catch that Footbot. I don't know why, but it kind of bored me. Loved the first half though.

11-04-2014, 03:21 AM	#15
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I'll go with Of Rats and Men, since I like Rat King's death scene at the end.

11-04-2014, 05:29 AM	#17
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Well I should put as his "death".

11-04-2014, 07:55 PM	#20
LeoRaph Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Sydney Posts: 357	While I do like Of Rat & Men a lot, especially the introduction of ICK I gotta go with The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones. Being a Raph fan, this was pretty damn good. There was great character development for him, lots of little nods to the 1990 movie and the 2K3 series and I liked seeing Casey and Raph's relationship develop. I actually thought the chasing scene wasn't boring at all, they had to work together due to the gravity of their situation and in doing so saved each other's lives which then developed into a mutual respect.