What's your opinion on the Next Mutation villains? - Page 2

killerkobra · 12-08-2014, 05:21 PM

I loved Next Mutation. Just like I love the first season of Power Rangers, Virtual Reality Troopers, Big Bad Beetle Borgs or Superhuman Samuria Syber-Squad. They may be cheesy but its a good cheesy IMO

As for the OP Ill have to watch the series again. I just got them on dvd and havent seen them since they originally aired way back when.

*Jephael* · 12-08-2014, 07:24 PM

I think if the cartoon had been continued into an 11th season and these characters had been used there instead, the writing team would've been able to do some really interesting stuff with them.

*CyberCubed* · 12-08-2014, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

I think if the cartoon had been continued into an 11th season and these characters had been used there instead, the writing team would've been able to do some really interesting stuff with them.

I have to agree. I always saw Dragon Lord as a replacement for Dregg too. I think had it been in the original cartoon Dragon Lord and his dragons would have been much cooler.

*pennydreadful* · 12-08-2014, 08:06 PM

I maintain that one day, the Next Mutation universe will be revived. And it will be awesome.

I mean, if the entire thing had been done as a cartoon like, in the 2003 style, I think it would've copped so much less crap.

*turtlefanforever* · 12-08-2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I maintain that one day, the Next Mutation universe will be revived. And it will be awesome.

I mean, if the entire thing had been done as a cartoon like, in the 2003 style, I think it would've copped so much less crap.

I would love that though.

*ProactiveMan* · 12-09-2014, 03:27 AM

I thought Dragon Lord was pretty cool looking, and the costume wasn't that bad. At least his face was articulated, and they didn't go down the Power Rangers rout, i.e. rigid face compensated for by hyper-kinetic gesticulation.

The rest were pretty colourful and interesting, although I though Vam Mi was out of place stylistically, but not problematically so.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 12-09-2014, 07:36 AM

Dragon Lord and the rank had so much potential (Dragon Lord himself even made into into Mirage's image run). Simon Bonesteel is a comedic take on the bounty hunter trope. (In my personal fiction, I always make him part of a trio of bounty hunters, along with Dirk savage and Tiger Claw). Vam mi and Silver have a lot of potential, and just need the right kind of story to work.

Sometimes people let thier hatred of Venus seep over into other elements of the show.

*Shiro Kame* · 12-09-2014, 10:26 AM

I believe that they all had potential, but suffered from bad writing, badass decay, and/or cheesy plots.

TurtleFan2012 · 12-10-2014, 12:08 AM

Did it seem out of character for Splinter to be buddy buddy with Shredder near the end of the series? I haven't seen the episode in a while, but I remember Splinter letting Shredder live with them in the sewer.

Btw, isn't Next Mutation Shredder technically 1990 movie Shredder? I assume NM is a "what if" story where Shredder from Secret of the Ooze survived his battle at the dock?

cammy85 · 12-10-2014, 07:51 AM

It's been awhile, but I remember how Venus used her shinobi magic on Shredder/Saki in the second episode, making him see what he had become. So this was Saki without any evil, until that item came along and he became greedy again.

DevilSpooky · 12-10-2014, 06:32 PM

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Did it seem out of character for Splinter to be buddy buddy with Shredder near the end of the series? I haven't seen the episode in a while, but I remember Splinter letting Shredder live with them in the sewer.

This Splinter has gone senile with age, seriously, watch the series again guys, he's always laughing at everything with this creepy laugh, talks to himself all the time (and often laughs at his own jokes afterwards) and goes to the surface without any worry to play chess in the midle of a park, he sometimes even goes outside during the day. Poor thing should be put in a old folks home, especially because his sons don't pay him any attention anymore, at least he would get some company.

It also bothers me how girly his movements are, damn girl, you're playing a male, can't you try and move a little more manly? Oh well, at least she's hot

*pennydreadful* · 12-10-2014, 08:05 PM

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This Splinter has gone senile... It also bothers me how girly his movements are, damn girl, you're playing a male, can't you try and move a little more manly? Oh well, at least she's hot

... who with the what now???

TurtleFan2012 · 12-10-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

This Splinter has gone senile with age, seriously, watch the series again guys, he's always laughing at everything with this creepy laugh, talks to himself all the time (and often laughs at his own jokes afterwards) and goes to the surface without any worry to play chess in the midle of a park, he sometimes even goes outside during the day. Poor thing should be put in a old folks home, especially because his sons don't pay him any attention anymore, at least he would get some company.

It also bothers me how girly his movements are, damn girl, you're playing a male, can't you try and move a little more manly? Oh well, at least she's hot

Funny you mention Splinter going senile. I saw this funny parody on you tube, it's hilarious lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yli9u4O3uZQ

I notice they changed the intro and its music for Kabillion. What are the chances of Saban continuing the series? Pretty slim? I wonder if Scott McNeil would be too old to be play Bonesteel if they were to bring back the show?

DevilSpooky · 12-10-2014, 11:00 PM

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... who with the what now???

http://i.imgur.com/8eW6Tmv.jpg?1

Yep, there's a hot girl under Splinter's fur http://youtu.be/W_FLDtdA2uM?t=1m21s

*Xav* · 12-11-2014, 12:33 AM

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Dragon Lord and the rank had so much potential (Dragon Lord himself even made into into Mirage's image run).

Um no he didn't. The Dragon Lord in the Image comics came first, and besides his name has nothing in common with the Next Mutation Dragon Lord.

*Powder* · 12-11-2014, 02:13 PM

& they mostly call him Komodo/King Komodo anyway, as far as I remember.

slashpieturtlemix · 12-11-2014, 03:19 PM

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Yep, there's a hot girl under Splinter's fur http://youtu.be/W_FLDtdA2uM?t=1m21s

lol wow I didn't know that! That is so random for them to do. Guess the costume was to small or something.

DevilSpooky · 12-11-2014, 05:55 PM

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Funny you mention Splinter going senile. I saw this funny parody on you tube, it's hilarious lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yli9u4O3uZQ

Oh my, it is hilarious lol

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lol wow I didn't know that! That is so random for them to do. Guess the costume was to small or something.

You seriously never noticed his movements? As soon as I saw Splinter I knew it was a girl underneath, she doesn't even try lol

*shuriken* · 12-11-2014, 06:37 PM

I liked The Dragon Lord, Bonesteal, Queeze and Silver. Everything else was meh.
I love the fact that Dragon Lord wanted to eat the turtles. I mean Shredder was the guy that said Tonight I dine on Turtle soup But Dragon Lord actually had the gall to straight up try and eat them.

*pennydreadful* · 12-11-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by slashpieturtlemix

lol wow I didn't know that! That is so random for them to do. Guess the costume was to small or something.

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Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

You seriously never noticed his movements? As soon as I saw Splinter I knew it was a girl underneath, she doesn't even try lol

FWIW, I never noticed either - but then my brain's often on another planet most of the time anyway.

12-08-2014, 07:24 PM	#22
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I think if the cartoon had been continued into an 11th season and these characters had been used there instead, the writing team would've been able to do some really interesting stuff with them. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

12-08-2014, 08:06 PM	#24
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	I maintain that one day, the Next Mutation universe will be revived. And it will be awesome. I mean, if the entire thing had been done as a cartoon like, in the 2003 style, I think it would've copped so much less crap. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

12-09-2014, 03:27 AM	#26
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	I thought Dragon Lord was pretty cool looking, and the costume wasn't that bad. At least his face was articulated, and they didn't go down the Power Rangers rout, i.e. rigid face compensated for by hyper-kinetic gesticulation. The rest were pretty colourful and interesting, although I though Vam Mi was out of place stylistically, but not problematically so. __________________ ProactiveMan!

12-09-2014, 07:36 AM	#27
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Dragon Lord and the rank had so much potential (Dragon Lord himself even made into into Mirage's image run). Simon Bonesteel is a comedic take on the bounty hunter trope. (In my personal fiction, I always make him part of a trio of bounty hunters, along with Dirk savage and Tiger Claw). Vam mi and Silver have a lot of potential, and just need the right kind of story to work. Sometimes people let thier hatred of Venus seep over into other elements of the show. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

12-11-2014, 06:37 PM	#39
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	I liked The Dragon Lord, Bonesteal, Queeze and Silver. Everything else was meh. I love the fact that Dragon Lord wanted to eat the turtles. I mean Shredder was the guy that said Tonight I dine on Turtle soup But Dragon Lord actually had the gall to straight up try and eat them. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

12-08-2014, 05:21 PM	#21
killerkobra Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 20	I loved Next Mutation. Just like I love the first season of Power Rangers, Virtual Reality Troopers, Big Bad Beetle Borgs or Superhuman Samuria Syber-Squad. They may be cheesy but its a good cheesy IMO As for the OP Ill have to watch the series again. I just got them on dvd and havent seen them since they originally aired way back when.

12-09-2014, 10:26 AM	#28
Shiro Kame Foot Elite Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3,332	I believe that they all had potential, but suffered from bad writing, badass decay, and/or cheesy plots.

12-10-2014, 12:08 AM	#29
TurtleFan2012 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 300	Did it seem out of character for Splinter to be buddy buddy with Shredder near the end of the series? I haven't seen the episode in a while, but I remember Splinter letting Shredder live with them in the sewer. Btw, isn't Next Mutation Shredder technically 1990 movie Shredder? I assume NM is a "what if" story where Shredder from Secret of the Ooze survived his battle at the dock?

12-10-2014, 07:51 AM	#30
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	It's been awhile, but I remember how Venus used her shinobi magic on Shredder/Saki in the second episode, making him see what he had become. So this was Saki without any evil, until that item came along and he became greedy again.

12-11-2014, 02:13 PM	#36
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	& they mostly call him Komodo/King Komodo anyway, as far as I remember.