10 Ways To Make Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 Not Suck - Page 2

*Bry* · 01-08-2015, 08:27 PM

Ha! I was trying to copy/paste the whole article, which it turned out was too many characters for one post, and in the meantime Redeemer did it all anyway.

But yeah - I agree with the majority of this, and the points were well-made.

The only points I disagree on were "No Shredder" and "No Origin", but that's only because those things were so badly-handled in this movie and deserve to be done justice in a modern film.

But they make a great point about the Shredder not being the only villain that matters. I'm always going to be crossing my fingers for a truly great "City at War" adaptation, because I feel the Shredder's best role was always his absence and the quagmire that created. An interesting/deep and action-packed movie that delves into the messy side and aftermath of vengeance would be incredible, and the story's already there - they just need a filmmaker and storyteller with actual talent to bring it to the big screen. It's the perfect capper to a trilogy, so hey, maybe next reboot...

Reading the "Brotherly Love" section in particular hits me. Especially the image used. Because they sold so much about these characters and their relationships in subtle, believable ways in the 1990 movie that I'm worried we'll never see done that well again as long as the current "powers that be" are calling the shots. The Donnie/Mikey "waiting for pizza" scene was quite well-written and says a lot about who they are if you read between the lines. Even as a kid, I loved how the movie expected me to "get it" and keep up. We need that kind of respect for audiences back - especially young ones.

*pennydreadful* · 01-08-2015, 08:34 PM

Hmm, thanks for posting that more in-depth, Redeemer.

I feel like all of the points were pretty spot-on, myself.

*TrickOrTreater* · 01-08-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Remember when people tried to compare the fights to The Raid? Haha, good times.

I remember so many funny, funny things that were said as assurances before the movie came out.

The Turtles using lots of Ninja abilities. No, they didn't.

Raid-style fighting. Nope, none.

The "foot" being ninjas/using ninja weaponry. Not a single solitary aspect.

The Turtles NOT being super strong and throwing shipping containers around. Lololololololol

Yeah. Good times. Goooooood times.

*oldmanwinters* · 01-08-2015, 08:36 PM

Oh, I thought this was gonna be a Secret of the Ooze article. I was gonna say... it's far from perfect but I enjoy that film!

*TrickOrTreater* · 01-08-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Oh, I thought this was gonna be a Secret of the Ooze article. I was gonna say... it's far from perfect but I enjoy that film!

Where the 1990 movie was a perfect blend of the original comics and the original cartoon while also being a fantastic movie, SotO is a fantastic adaptation of just the original cartoon.

It's a lot of fun, very enjoyable to watch, but still retains a lot of heart and magic needed.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-08-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Where the 1990 movie was a perfect blend of the original comics and the original cartoon while also being a fantastic movie, SotO is a fantastic adaptation of just the original cartoon.

It's a lot of fun, very enjoyable to watch, but still retains a lot of heart and magic needed.

Well, Riff Traxx has levied their two cents

With 32,000 votes TMNT2014 is their worst movie of the year!

*Bry* · 01-08-2015, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Well, Riff Traxx has levied their two cents

With 32,000 votes TMNT2014 is their worst movie of the year!

Glorious.

Does this mean they're gonna take it on? Because that might be the only way I watch this movie again.

*TrickOrTreater* · 01-08-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Well, Riff Traxx has levied their two cents

With 32,000 votes TMNT2014 is their worst movie of the year!

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Originally Posted by Bry

Glorious.

Does this mean they're gonna take it on? Because that might be the only way I watch this movie again.

I am dying, DYING, for the three of them to do this movie.

The entire time I was watching it, I kept thinking "this movie deserves a coal raking."

It'd be perfect for it.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-08-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

I am dying, DYING, for the three of them to do this movie.

The entire time I was watching it, I kept thinking "this movie deserves a coal raking."

It'd be perfect for it.

I am so tired of writing TMNT2014 or Bayturtles, or the film from this year etc.

I think it needs shortening to PDNT, unless y'all have something better.

*pennydreadful* · 01-08-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I think it needs shortening to PDNT, unless y'all have something better.

I'm sure some folks here can think of a few things...

*TrickOrTreater* · 01-08-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I am so tired of writing TMNT2014 or Bayturtles, or the film from this year etc.

I think it needs shortening to PDNT, unless y'all have something better.

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I'm sure some folks here can think of a few things...

All of which is censored on this board.

But I just write BayTurtles. Cause that's more or less what it is. Michael Bay's "Ninja" Turtles.

*TigerClaw* · 01-08-2015, 10:41 PM

I'll continue calling it TMNT2014, Cause its the only way i can tell which version is which by just the Years.

*Powder* · 01-09-2015, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Where the 1990 movie was a perfect blend of the original comics and the original cartoon while also being a fantastic movie, SotO is a fantastic adaptation of just the original cartoon.

It's a lot of fun, very enjoyable to watch, but still retains a lot of heart and magic needed.

I completely agree. I've always said the same. The first film is the comics, the second is the cartoon, & the third is an amalgamation (the story is partially adapted from Vol. 1 #17 but obviously the tone is VERY Fred Wolf).

*pennydreadful* · 01-09-2015, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

But I just write BayTurtles. Cause that's more or less what it is. Michael Bay's "Ninja" Turtles.

Yeah, I'm gonna just keep referring to it as BayTurtles, myself. It's nearly impossible for me to think of it as anything else.

*Bry* · 01-09-2015, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Yeah, I'm gonna just keep referring to it as BayTurtles, myself. It's nearly impossible for me to think of it as anything else.

"BayTurtles" makes it sound like something completely different, kinda removed from the overall property. Which I find very helpful.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 01-09-2015, 07:06 AM

I actually liked the new designs; four individuals should have four different styles... I just wish they'd gone a little easier on Don's nerdy Ghostbusters gear.

But other than that, this guy makes the same case I think most of us have been griping about. Especially Point #1.

Luigiperps · 01-09-2015, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Right in every account however #10 needs to be switched out for use of secondary characters that will make the most out of them whether its Karai or Irma or Casey Jones or even Bebop and Rocksteady. Not just have them in a few scenes and be irrelevant. Shredder on the other hand is necessary. For some reason TMNT actually made up villains for the movie. What other comic book heroes had to face a made up foe for their film? Shredder is their best villain and has been featured in the two best films. If he is not the central focus he needs to be the driving force or involved somehow with Krang, Rat King, Karai, or Baxter Stockman.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_III

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Xiewin · 01-09-2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I actually liked the new designs; four individuals should have four different styles... I just wish they'd gone a little easier on Don's nerdy Ghostbusters gear.

But other than that, this guy makes the same case I think most of us have been griping about. Especially Point #1.

Yeah I like the new designs too, well except for all the Tech on donnie's back, and overly nerdy glasses.

Myko · 01-09-2015, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

I completely agree. I've always said the same. The first film is the comics, the second is the cartoon, & the third is an amalgamation (the story is partially adapted from Vol. 1 #17 but obviously the tone is VERY Fred Wolf).

The third is like a poor issue of the Archie comic.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 01-09-2015, 09:18 AM

If the designs had been good, and the origin been correct to either Mirage or FW, I could have overlooked many of the other issues.

I really hoped Fox would prove the fans wrong, and deliver a great performance. I realize now I backed the wrong horse

.

If they bring anyone back at all, it needs to be Tohoru Masamune. He was actually good in his brief role, and has a great voice, and was the only one to turn in a good performance.

In any event, I hope this doesn't become a trend, but looks as though PDMT and IDW have rewritten the origin as far as most are concerned.
http://www.kidzworld.com/article/292...-cam-interview

From the link:
""We all know that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles started out as abandoned scientific pets - Kidzworld caught up with Corey, an Outreach Coordinator ...

ugh.

01-08-2015, 08:27 PM	#21
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	Ha! I was trying to copy/paste the whole article, which it turned out was too many characters for one post, and in the meantime Redeemer did it all anyway. But yeah - I agree with the majority of this, and the points were well-made. The only points I disagree on were "No Shredder" and "No Origin", but that's only because those things were so badly-handled in this movie and deserve to be done justice in a modern film. But they make a great point about the Shredder not being the only villain that matters. I'm always going to be crossing my fingers for a truly great "City at War" adaptation, because I feel the Shredder's best role was always his absence and the quagmire that created. An interesting/deep and action-packed movie that delves into the messy side and aftermath of vengeance would be incredible, and the story's already there - they just need a filmmaker and storyteller with actual talent to bring it to the big screen. It's the perfect capper to a trilogy, so hey, maybe next reboot... Reading the "Brotherly Love" section in particular hits me. Especially the image used. Because they sold so much about these characters and their relationships in subtle, believable ways in the 1990 movie that I'm worried we'll never see done that well again as long as the current "powers that be" are calling the shots. The Donnie/Mikey "waiting for pizza" scene was quite well-written and says a lot about who they are if you read between the lines. Even as a kid, I loved how the movie expected me to "get it" and keep up. We need that kind of respect for audiences back - especially young ones. __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon Last edited by Bry; 01-08-2015 at 08:56 PM.

01-08-2015, 08:34 PM	#22
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01-09-2015, 07:06 AM	#36
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I actually liked the new designs; four individuals should have four different styles... I just wish they'd gone a little easier on Don's nerdy Ghostbusters gear. But other than that, this guy makes the same case I think most of us have been griping about. Especially Point #1.

01-09-2015, 09:18 AM	#40
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	If the designs had been good, and the origin been correct to either Mirage or FW, I could have overlooked many of the other issues. I really hoped Fox would prove the fans wrong, and deliver a great performance. I realize now I backed the wrong horse . If they bring anyone back at all, it needs to be Tohoru Masamune. He was actually good in his brief role, and has a great voice, and was the only one to turn in a good performance. In any event, I hope this doesn't become a trend, but looks as though PDMT and IDW have rewritten the origin as far as most are concerned. http://www.kidzworld.com/article/292...-cam-interview From the link: ""We all know that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles started out as abandoned scientific pets - Kidzworld caught up with Corey, an Outreach Coordinator ... ugh.