Are the Kraang a hivemind?

~~Amaranthus~~ · 01-23-2015, 01:03 PM

Because it sure seems like it.
Only high-ranked Kraang like Prime and Subprime seem to have their own personality. So if they are a hivemind the key to defeating them all would just be defeating Kraang Prime.
Thoughts?

*CyberCubed* · 01-23-2015, 01:15 PM

A hive mind implies they can read each others thoughts and no what they're all thinking at the same time, but that clearly isn't the case. The Kraang who are attacked don't know what's happening with the other Kraang

*DarkFell* · 01-23-2015, 01:32 PM

They might have a sort of limited hive mind telepathy within their ranks or whatever group they're in.

*BabyTurtles* · 01-23-2015, 02:23 PM

No....they seem to have a bit of individuality.

Some want to lose weight! and they don't all seem to get along

Remember: "In Kraang's face!"

*victory_angel* · 01-23-2015, 02:26 PM

Hive mind N.
1. A group of people who act or think in unison as if they are all the same individual.

2. A group of people who think the same thoughts as and/or carries out the objectives of either one Leader or each other.

The Kraang all follow Kraang Primes desire to take over the world and make it into a new Dimention X. None of them stop to question why they are taking over the Earth, or what do they have to gain by doing so. Yes they all have some individuality, but largely they all think and act the same.

But they are vain and some seem to have a fascination for human technology

~~Amaranthus~~ · 01-23-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Hive mind N.
1. A group of people who act or think in unison as if they are all the same individual.

2. A group of people who think the same thoughts as and/or carries out the objectives of either one Leader or each other.

The Kraang all follow Kraang Primes desire to take over the world and make it into a new Dimention X. None of them stop to question why they are taking over the Earth, or what do they have to gain by doing so.

Exactly what I'm thinking!

*neatoman* · 01-23-2015, 03:26 PM

Not necessarily a hive mind but it's clear there's hardly any unique Kraang, most of them talk the same, look the same, act the same, have the same opinions etc.

It's possible they are individuals but they don't grasp what that means, nor do they seem to understand the value of individuality.

*Raven* · 01-23-2015, 04:48 PM

Good theory, they act close enough to a hive mind concept but seem to sway away from it from time to time as others have mentioned great examples.

*Luckyday* · 01-23-2015, 05:39 PM

Maybe they only act hivish when there a lot kraang but when there only a few in a given area then the connection is weak. It might be a reason why they act so stupid at times.

Perhaps the need to conform and to stay connected is addicting like people constantly checking their twitter page. If you are part of something big then you feel big but if not that you are just a tiny speck in giant sandbox with no idea of what will happen next.

If they were a true hive then they would have know right away that time when Raph was stuck in a kraang body.

Perhaps it just a one way connection and it only comes from Kraang Prime. Makes more sense, no?

Nasubionna · 01-23-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Hive mind N.
1. A group of people who act or think in unison as if they are all the same individual.

2. A group of people who think the same thoughts as and/or carries out the objectives of either one Leader or each other.

The Kraang all follow Kraang Primes desire to take over the world and make it into a new Dimention X. None of them stop to question why they are taking over the Earth, or what do they have to gain by doing so. Yes they all have some individuality, but largely they all think and act the same.

But they are vain and some seem to have a fascination for human technology

This is an excellent way to put it, thanks!

*snake* · 01-23-2015, 10:38 PM

Pretty much. They all talk the same and share the same ideals.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-24-2015, 12:14 AM

They don't seem to have so much a hive-mind as a limited mental-connection to Kraang Prime itself. Kraang Sub-Prime was certainly an individual, and even had a different voice. Some other Kraang also express individual personalities to some degree, and NONE of them seem to have any kind of telepathy with one another- only to Kraang Prime. They also have varying degrees of intelligence, apparently, as some seem to "get it" better than others. So, no, not a hive-mind so much as a highly integrated society based around a common goal- much like some alien races in Star Trek or Star Wars. (Jawas, Tuskans, Romulans, Forerunners, etc....)

*BabyTurtles* · 01-24-2015, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

They don't seem to have so much a hive-mind as a limited mental-connection to Kraang Prime itself. Kraang Sub-Prime was certainly an individual, and even had a different voice. Some other Kraang also express individual personalities to some degree, and NONE of them seem to have any kind of telepathy with one another- only to Kraang Prime. They also have varying degrees of intelligence, apparently, as some seem to "get it" better than others. So, no, not a hive-mind so much as a highly integrated society based around a common goal- much like some alien races in Star Trek or Star Wars. (Jawas, Tuskans, Romulans, Forerunners, etc....)

yea this.

if you wanna see a real hivemind look up the geth from mass effect. (or see the vid XD)

though do hiveminds need a queen?

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-24-2015, 12:49 AM

Or the Borg, or the Bugs from Starship Troopers, or The Xenomorphs, or.... Some fantasy hive-mind races include D&D Aspis, Aboleths, and Spawn of Kyusks. (All fun critters to encounter, to be sure!)

Kraang seem more like the Covenant from Halo or Githyanki from D&D, actually. The Githyanki are actually very similar in that respect, having mild psychic abilities, a clear hierarchy, and a leader who is absolute, as well as individual personalities, but very similar appearances.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-24-2015, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

though do hiveminds need a queen?

Generally, yes. It's not a "hive" without one, really. It's why the Borg in Star Trek can't function on their own without one- unless, like "Hugh" or Seven-of-Nine, they have been "disconnected/unassimilated". This is the biggest reason I don't see the Kraang as a hive mind- they can still function perfectly well on their own.

*oldmanwinters* · 01-24-2015, 06:13 AM

Groupthink!

~~Super Goku~~ · 01-25-2015, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

Because it sure seems like it.
Only high-ranked Kraang like Prime and Subprime seem to have their own personality. So if they are a hivemind to key to defeating them all would just be defeating Kraang Prime.
Thoughts?

I always assumed the Kraang (with the exception of Kraang Prime and Subprime) have a hivemind. They don't seem to have individual personalities.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-29-2015, 08:05 AM

I don't think so. But there's not time to deeper explore the personality of every Kraang.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 08-01-2015, 12:17 PM

Meant to post this earlier, but I forgot all about it,
The Kraang (or TCRI) logo also looks like a honeycomb pretty much,
Kraanguminati confirmed.

01-23-2015, 01:03 PM	#1
~~Amaranthus~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West-Flanders, Belgium Posts: 1,815	Are the Kraang a hivemind? Because it sure seems like it. Only high-ranked Kraang like Prime and Subprime seem to have their own personality. So if they are a hivemind the key to defeating them all would just be defeating Kraang Prime. Thoughts? Last edited by Amaranthus; 08-01-2015 at 12:14 PM.

01-23-2015, 02:23 PM	#4
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	No....they seem to have a bit of individuality. Some want to lose weight! and they don't all seem to get along Remember: "In Kraang's face!" __________________

01-23-2015, 02:26 PM	#5
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Hive mind N. 1. A group of people who act or think in unison as if they are all the same individual. 2. A group of people who think the same thoughts as and/or carries out the objectives of either one Leader or each other. The Kraang all follow Kraang Primes desire to take over the world and make it into a new Dimention X. None of them stop to question why they are taking over the Earth, or what do they have to gain by doing so. Yes they all have some individuality, but largely they all think and act the same. But they are vain and some seem to have a fascination for human technology __________________ Last edited by victory_angel; 01-23-2015 at 03:11 PM.

01-23-2015, 04:48 PM	#8
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	Good theory, they act close enough to a hive mind concept but seem to sway away from it from time to time as others have mentioned great examples. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

01-24-2015, 12:14 AM	#12
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	They don't seem to have so much a hive-mind as a limited mental-connection to Kraang Prime itself. Kraang Sub-Prime was certainly an individual, and even had a different voice. Some other Kraang also express individual personalities to some degree, and NONE of them seem to have any kind of telepathy with one another- only to Kraang Prime. They also have varying degrees of intelligence, apparently, as some seem to "get it" better than others. So, no, not a hive-mind so much as a highly integrated society based around a common goal- much like some alien races in Star Trek or Star Wars. (Jawas, Tuskans, Romulans, Forerunners, etc....) __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

01-23-2015, 01:15 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,697	A hive mind implies they can read each others thoughts and no what they're all thinking at the same time, but that clearly isn't the case. The Kraang who are attacked don't know what's happening with the other Kraang

01-23-2015, 10:38 PM	#11
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Pretty much. They all talk the same and share the same ideals.

01-24-2015, 12:49 AM	#14
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Or the Borg, or the Bugs from Starship Troopers, or The Xenomorphs, or.... Some fantasy hive-mind races include D&D Aspis, Aboleths, and Spawn of Kyusks. (All fun critters to encounter, to be sure!) Kraang seem more like the Covenant from Halo or Githyanki from D&D, actually. The Githyanki are actually very similar in that respect, having mild psychic abilities, a clear hierarchy, and a leader who is absolute, as well as individual personalities, but very similar appearances. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

01-24-2015, 06:13 AM	#16
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01-29-2015, 08:05 AM	#18
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,477	I don't think so. But there's not time to deeper explore the personality of every Kraang.

08-01-2015, 12:17 PM	#19
~~Amaranthus~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West-Flanders, Belgium Posts: 1,815	Meant to post this earlier, but I forgot all about it, The Kraang (or TCRI) logo also looks like a honeycomb pretty much, Kraanguminati confirmed.