How will the love triangle be resolved? - Page 4

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

At this moment April likes both boys as close friends and she is confused about who she loves more.

In Northampton she could freely express her feelings for Donnie because there was no one around Casey and the other Turtles.

However now that they are back in the city she knows having a relationship with Casey would be considered more proper by her father and the rest of the city.

For example when Donnie was trying to confess his feelings to her during the invasion. April cut him off because one saying such things was like he was giving up in a 'well since we're going to die anyway, I might as well let you know how I feel about you.' And two her father was in the room and he was already wound up as it is with the invasion. We don't know how he would react to having a mutant turtle expressing his feelings for his daughter, but odds are he would not be happy about it.

I feel like you are giving the show way too much credit. (too many "maybes")

everyone is mutated in the city currently...there is nobody to make April feel uncomfortable if she really did want to get close to Donnie.

Let's think back for a second....

season 1: April didn't really show to like Donnie romantically, but mostly as a friend.
season 2: April is annoyed by Casey at first, but they soon start flirting with each other, which indicates she must like him.
season 3: April kisses Donnie...ignores that she did since then....and gives Casey "that look"

so April is either leading both boys on to get attention....or the writers don't know what the HECK they are doing.

I mean...why can't we all just agree this whole love thing is written horribly?
It does happen....some people just don't know how to write this sort of stuff.

*Luckyday* · 02-02-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I feel like you are giving the show way too much credit. (too many "maybes")

everyone is mutated in the city currently...there is nobody to make April feel uncomfortable if she really did want to get close to Donnie.

Let's think back for a second....

season 1: April didn't really show to like Donnie romantically, but mostly as a friend.
season 2: April is annoyed by Casey at first, but they soon start flirting with each other, which indicates she must like him.
season 3: April kisses Donnie...ignores that she did since then....and gives Casey "that look"

so April is either leading both boys on to get attention....or the writers don't know what the HECK they are doing.

I mean...why can't we all just agree this whole love thing is written horribly?
It does happen....some people just don't know how to write this sort of stuff.

All of this makes me wonder if the writers themselves know how bad this love triangle turning out to be like how the Legend of Korra writers realize this they axe dumb romantic sub plots in season 3.

Either way someone on that team NEEDS to do some damage control that was left from A Foot Too Big. No matter how good April's "intentions" were, recent episodes had only painted her as a bitch that likes to play mind games.

If this was Casey, then it would been okay, because he's playa with a huge ego, but with Donnie it was not cool. It was not cool at all.

aliena · 02-02-2015, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I feel like you are giving the show way too much credit. (too many "maybes")

everyone is mutated in the city currently...there is nobody to make April feel uncomfortable if she really did want to get close to Donnie.

Let's think back for a second....

season 1: April didn't really show to like Donnie romantically, but mostly as a friend.
season 2: April is annoyed by Casey at first, but they soon start flirting with each other, which indicates she must like him.
season 3: April kisses Donnie...ignores that she did since then....and gives Casey "that look"

so April is either leading both boys on to get attention....or the writers don't know what the HECK they are doing.

I mean...why can't we all just agree this whole love thing is written horribly?
It does happen....some people just don't know how to write this sort of stuff.

That is what gets me. From the start she seems to ignore Donnie's advances even when she catches him several times admitting things about her, like when he didn't mute it when he shouted his sweet princess is alive and the whole Metalhead thing about stating how pretty she was and she heard it. She always says to just pretend that she didn't hear it. It was almost cringe worthy how stalky Donnie was getting.

I wanted so badly for him to get the hint and just drop the romantic thing, but it gets worse. Then, in a foot too big I was so excited for him to finally be getting out of it and then she kisses him! Good Lord, let the poor guy go so he can move on with his life. We've never seen Donnie sans April for more than the first few minutes of the first episode. What was he like before the whole April thing took him over?

Okay, sorry to vent, but I just don't like April that much. She's a bit too arrogant maybe? I'm not sure what it is, bratty? Maybe she's too bratty. I don't know for sure, but something about her rubs me the wrong way. It has from the start. If I knew it wouldn't ruin the whole show, I'd almost like to see Donnie find another girl that he likes better and leaves April in the dust for, that would show her.

If Donnie falls in love with someone, I want it to be mutual because they meet and have things in common and then start to like each other, not one sided and forced. I think the writers are just thinking, hey, lets throw a bone to those who are shipping Donnie and April by putting in this kiss or this line or this look. I'm not sure they have an end game for it though.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-02-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aliena

like when he didn't mute it when he shouted his sweet princess is alive

Sh*t like that is what makes me HATE Donnie on this show. In my experience, girls HATE when guys talk about them like that, unless they're already in a relationship with them. This is the kind of thing that gets guys the "You don't love Me, you love the IDEA of 'Me'" speech.

Every time Donnie opens his F'n mouth about her I just want to smash the TV.

*neatoman* · 02-02-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Sh*t like that is what makes me HATE Donnie on this show. In my experience, girls HATE when guys talk about them like that, unless they're already in a relationship with them. This is the kind of thing that gets guys the "You don't love Me, you love the IDEA of 'Me'" speech.

Every time Donnie opens his F'n mouth about her I just want to smash the TV.

Indeed, it stopped being charming early in season 1. It's just creepy at this point.

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Sh*t like that is what makes me HATE Donnie on this show. In my experience, girls HATE when guys talk about them like that, unless they're already in a relationship with them. This is the kind of thing that gets guys the "You don't love Me, you love the IDEA of 'Me'" speech.

Every time Donnie opens his F'n mouth about her I just want to smash the TV.

Yea, if some dude started calling me his sweet Chinchilla, that would straight up creep me out.

Too bad the writers didn't let Donnie learn in a Foot Too Big like he was supposed to.

*pennydreadful* · 02-02-2015, 05:20 PM

Even in a relationship, that type of nonsense is pretty gag-inducing. If the bae ever referred to me as "princess" or "my sweet chinchilla" or any of that other shiz in a serious way, I'd stick his head in the toilet and flush.

*ssjup81* · 02-02-2015, 05:26 PM

After watching the recent ep, I think that some are looking too much into that look Casey and April had. I really think both were awkward because they'll be stuck close to each other in a cramped space. In North Hampton, April, I'm assuming, had her own room, her own space, and a lot of privacy. In the pizza place, I doubt this'll be the case entirely since the place wasn't built for that.

Even when she stayed at the lair in season 1, I was under the impression that she probably had her own private space away from the other guys, just like Karai did.

So yeah, I think that's what it was from both sides. They are teenagers, after all. Even though I had a lot of guy friends, I know I would've felt weird if I had to share a sleeping space with them at that age.

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Yea, if some dude started calling me his sweet Chinchilla, that would straight up creep me out.

I don't think this would bother me, actually...because I would think the guy was joking and laugh. I would then say, "Okay, what do you want my help with? You're obviously sucking up for something"...but maybe I feel this way because I have guy friends. Always have, even from a young age, so if I heard a guy talking goofy like that in front of me like Donnie, I wouldn't think anything of it. Giving me the music box, though, THAT would, epsecially if I don't like the guy back.

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Too bad the writers didn't let Donnie learn in a Foot Too Big like he was supposed to.

How could he if April kissed him? That's not Donnie's fault at all. It's April's. Even the other kisses she's given him, it was no big deal. They were kisses of gratitude (she was so happy) and thanks. That one was...well...unnecessary. There was no real reason for it, unless she likes him back and was saying, "Don't give up on me yet....just cool it". Donnie's trying to get her attention feels natural to me anyway. It's normal to go out of your way to try attracting the girl/guy you like in some way or form. For some people it's subtle (Leo with Karai) and for others, it's a bit more obvious or the person is loud about it (like Casey). Donnie is somewhere in the middle, imo. That's all Donnie's doing anyway. I think it's more instinctive than anything else. It's like Steve Urkel on Family Matters. He always went out of his way to get Laura's attention, to the point of becoming "Stefan", which did work on Laura. Laura did like Stefan...but realized she missed Steve's goofy personality and friendship.

Anyway, to me, April's always been affectionate with him. Even in season 1, who did she usually hug or run to first, Donnie. No prompting from Donnie necessary...she just did it.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-02-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Even in a relationship, that type of nonsense is pretty gag-inducing. If the bae ever referred to me as "princess" or "my sweet chinchilla" or any of that other shiz in a serious way, I'd stick his head in the toilet and flush.

Diff'rent Strokes to move the world. My wife likes that kinda thing. From me, anyway. When other guys try it she gets pretty angry b/c she gets disgusted when people try and disrespect our relationship. But she loves when I do it.

*ssjup81* · 02-02-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Diff'rent Strokes to move the world. My wife likes that kinda thing. From me, anyway. When other guys try it she gets pretty angry b/c she gets disgusted when people try and disrespect our relationship. But she loves when I do it.

I would hope so. I personally would hate it if my significant other called me pet names...seriously. Too cheesy and I'm not hte romantic type. That's why if a guy friend called me his chinchilla or something else equally nauseatingly cheesy, I wouldn't think anything of it nor would I take it seriously because I would think he's sucking up for something or trying to get me on his good side and laugh.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-02-2015, 05:48 PM

Honestly, it seems to go over better with people who are semi-insecure. It makes them feel special. I've noticed that a lot of people who are more confident/secure find it to be kind of pandering.

Like I tell folks at the gym, "Everyone's an individual."

*pennydreadful* · 02-02-2015, 06:22 PM

Yeah, it would irritate the crap out of me as I'd find it condescending (even if it wasn't meant that way)... plus I'm one of the least romantic people on earth. But as you said, different strokes and all!

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

How could he if April kissed him? That's not Donnie's fault at all. It's April's.

When I said "Donnie should have learned."

I meant the WRITERS should have let Donnie learn.

but they didn't allow him to when they let April kiss him.

*victory_angel* · 02-02-2015, 08:09 PM

Remember Donnie has never encountered a girl before April. Before her the only girls he's ever seen were on TV. So you can't expect him to know how to behave around someone of the opposite gender if he's been surrounded by guys his whole life.

And through out his time with April he does pay attention to how she reacts to him and his attempts to get her attention. So if she doesn't seem to like it or doesn't seem all that appreciative, he doesn't do that ever again. So season one, yes he does come across rather strong in his feelings for April. But April doesn't fault him for it because she is aware that he's never been around an actual female before. Now if Donnie was a human and had these behaviors yes it would be creepy.

I remember dating a guy from I dated in Anime Club when I was attending Diablo Valley College. On our first date we had Sukiyaki at a Japanese Resturant and went to watch Goblet of Fire. Since it was around midnight when we left the theater, he said he needed to stop by his house so he can rest for a bit before he took me home. At one point he told me he loved me and sort of expresses that he wanted me to sleep with him. I refused to do so on the grounds that I didn't know him well enough to do that and when I told a friend about this she was both suprised and appaled that he would want to go that far on the first date. That is what one would classify as a creep.

As for Donnie calling April his sweet princess, during season one Donnie did think of April as someone who should be protected. And he had been nothing but worried about her because she was facing off against another more experienced Kunoichi of whome she had very little chance of defeating. And he was not in a position or place he could help her. So when checks on her to see if she's okay, he is so over joyed to hear she's alright he does stick his foot in his mouth. But she forgives him for it because she knows he's just glad she's okay.

Most of the time Donnie is very respectful of April's personal space. Most of the hugs April inniates herself and any touches he gives her is because she allows him too. There is only one time Donnie trys to innitiate a hug and April gives him a look indicating that she wasn't interested, which he respects.

Casey on the other is more prone to slinging an arm around April's shoulders and he has those "When are we going on a "real date"?" questions. When really he's looking for a chance to COUGH**make out**COUGH.

Season two Donnie has toned down his relationship with April. Partially because he knows his both he and his brothers have taken someone very important from her, and he wants nothing more then to make things right again. Yes he does say he's doing that with the hope that he can gain her back. But still he wants to return her father back to normal reguardless of how she feels about him. Simply because he feels he owes her that...as her friend.

Take the moment when Opal and Bolin meet in in season three of Legend of Korra. Opal and Bolin like eachother from the moment they meet, and Opal is impressed by who he is as a person. But whenever Bolin tries to put on an act to get her attention Opal tells him he is acting weird and she doesn't like it.

The same is true for Donnie, when he is trying to impress April or putting on an act to get her attention. April often just rolls her eyes or ignores him. But it's during the moments where Donnie is himself as her friend that his feelings for her actually shine through and that the Donnie April appriciates.

And while we are introduced to a triangle between Donnie/April/Casey we are also reminded there once had been a triangle between Hamato Yoshi/ Tang Shen/ Oroku Saki. And there are some hints the latter triangle is going to be a mirror of the former.

For example it was mentioned on a couple occasions in season one that Tang Shen both Yoshi and Saki. However when she chose Yoshi as her husbend, her other suitor could not accept it and let his anger and jealousy consume him.

In mutagen man unleashed Donnie has this moment where he slips away from his brothers to check on how April was fairing when he sees her with Casey. So when they return to the lair, he at once rants to the pulverizer about how April must like this new boy because he's human he isn't happy about how April has a new boy in her life.

Splinter over hears this rant and immediately invites Donnie to have a private lesson which was the lesson about learning how to like falling down. Which was ment to remind Donnie that he can't force April to like him back. However the underlying part of the lesson was to prevent Donnie from stumbling down the path that his former friend had so many years ago. Even his converstation at the end did imply that it will be April's choice if she chooses him or not.

I know some of you reading this feel I am looking into things a little to much into things and it's possible that I am. However I don't think that it's entirely coincidental either.

When Casey is introduced to the turtles, Donnie is of course not happy that his rival is even more involved in his life. While he visibly does make it clear he doesn't like the guy. He puts up with him for the sake of his brothers and April. Casey in turn also has suspected Donnie is more then just a friend to April and isn't shy about getting in Donnie's face about it.

Their rivalry is one of the things that irritates April is she likes both and she knows they both like her. She just doesn't appriciate that they think of her as a prize that should be won. And yet in season three when the two of them are getting along better, she says "I thought I'd like them them getting along." To which Raph says "You and me both." Meaning as irritating as they are when they fight, they are more annoying when they get along.

In the season two finally there is a moment where Donnie tries to confess his feelings, but April cuts him off and hugs Casey saying she was worried that she lost him forever.

Part of that was because her dad was already freaking out about the invasion. Having Donnie confess his feelings to her right then and there would not have been a welcome revealation. Particularly since her father seems to be protective of her and we don't know what his views of her dating actually are. And even if he was okay with her dating, having the significant other be a mutant might be to much to hope for. As some of us can recall the moment from the gauntlet where Donnie tells Kirby he thinks April is nice to which Kirby looks at him with a "WTF" expression.

Her expressing feelings for Casey was to help Donnie keep his mind focused on what was at stake which was getting his family, her father, and hers, through the Invasion and out of the city. And he couldn't do that if he was focused on her.

Also in the season two finally we see two different aspects of how the boys see April. We see Casey spray tagging and image of April and himself and April is depicted as someone who should be protected. While Donnie has April sitting along side him his diagram of the Turtle Mech implying that he see her as an equal.

In season three so far Donnie's feelings are toned down considerably. But yes the event with Big Foot did help with that as it did show him some of what his behavior was for April. I mean yes the music box was a sweet gift and anyone could have seen that he had worked really hard on it. However what really destroyed any sentimentality with it was putting a picture of himself on the inside cover instead of a mirror. If it had been a picture of all of them and her father...or a picture of something she personally would have liked such as her favorite flower or poem. Maybe it would have been more appriciated.

But having Big Foot following him around like a puppy, which is more season one Donnie's behavior not season three Donnie. It still gets him to realize that his efforts in trying to bring April closer to him were hurting her. So in the end he tells April that he'll back off and stop pursuing her and that he understands that she'll never see him the way she wishes she would see him. This is the one moment that proves that April does have feelings for Donnie. Majority of the times when April has kissed Donnie, it has been kisses of appriciation and gratitude. And I don't recall Casey being kissed at any point. Hugged yes, but kissed no.

However this one moment April kisses Donnie of the lips/beak. If she just thought of him as a friend, she would have hugged him and said thank you. But instead she kisses him and says he is her mutant as a way of saying "Don't give up on us just yet." His statement of "I understand nothing" is he doesn't really understand what the kiss ment because he had been psyching himself in saying good bye.

How this triangle will continue to form will depend on how the season progresses. Because at this point its still anyones guess as to who April will choose.

*pennydreadful* · 02-02-2015, 08:21 PM

Yeah but I mean, it's been long enough now that he should know how to act vaguely appropriate. In the initial stages, sure, I'll cut the kid some slack - but it's just lost all charm for me by this stage. They have tv, they go out in the real world now, and it's not like he's completely unsocialised or was raised by wolves - and the fact that his bros called him out on him stalking April in Season 2 (and he had the grace to look embarrassed) means he clearly knows better by this point.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-02-2015, 08:25 PM

Kind of amuses me when people justify the behavior of a TV character as if they were real, when it's actually the writers who should know better.

*Warhorse* · 02-02-2015, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

When I said "Donnie should have learned."

I meant the WRITERS should have let Donnie learn.

but they didn't allow him to when they let April kiss him.

You ever think the writers/producers already were planning on a more direct route with Donnie/April during A Foot Too Big, but then maybe shortly after it was drafted, or already started filming, studio execs told them to write something else for the rest of the season? Could studio interference be the cause of the love triangle not coming to an end? Maybe they are afraid of some backlash if April, a human in their eyes, gets with one of the Turtles? It could be one of the reasons why this part of the series is a bit disjointed?

~~Leo656~~ · 02-02-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

Maybe they are afraid of some backlash if April, a human in their eyes, gets with one of the Turtles? It could be one of the reasons why this part of the series is a bit disjointed?

I've always said that's a huge reason they never should have opened this particular can of worms in the first place. How on Earth can you "sell" the concept of a human "dating" a mutant turtle, to the majority of parents who would only look at it as "endorsing/condoning bestiality"? You can't. If there's a way to make the idea work, a Nickelodeon show aimed at grade schoolers is NOT the place to attempt it.

There's a time and place to "push boundaries", and there's a time and place to play conservatively.

UnwiseOne · 02-02-2015, 11:42 PM

Me as an Apritello fan would love an Apritello ending, but realistically I want it to be open ended in which she neither chooses anybody and let the fanfics deal with the ending they want. That's because whether I see Donnie react to any Casey/April moment I just feel sad for the guy, I mean the 'Foot too Big' episode is the way to let the romantic subplot rest for awhile and let the guys have character development and whatnot and let Donnie move on. And if the writers really like to have an apritello ending then they can do that with an unrequited love switcheroo. That would more interesting in my opinion. Also it looks like this love triangle is becoming like that of the makorrasami love triangle, in which Donnie becomes Mako, and Casey/April becomes Asami/Korra respectively. I just hope that doesn't happen, which is more likely.

*BabyTurtles* · 02-03-2015, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwiseOne

Me as an Apritello fan would love an Apritello ending, but realistically I want it to be open ended in which she neither chooses anybody and let the fanfics deal with the ending they want. That's because whether I see Donnie react to any Casey/April moment I just feel sad for the guy, I mean the 'Foot too Big' episode is the way to let the romantic subplot rest for awhile and let the guys have character development and whatnot and let Donnie move on. And if the writers really like to have an apritello ending then they can do that with an unrequited love switcheroo. That would more interesting in my opinion. Also it looks like this love triangle is becoming like that of the makorrasami love triangle, in which Donnie becomes Mako, and Casey/April becomes Asami/Korra respectively. I just hope that doesn't happen, which is more likely.

......technically April would be Mako since she's the one leading the guys on XD

and Casey and Donnie would be Asami and Korra.....

still I think Asami and Mako would have worked best if Mako didn't cheat on her........twice. They seemed to actually like each other in book 1 before the whole love fiasco.

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pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Even in a relationship, that type of nonsense is pretty gag-inducing. If the bae ever referred to me as "princess" or "my sweet chinchilla" or any of that other shiz in a serious way, I'd stick his head in the toilet and flush. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

02-02-2015, 06:22 PM	#72
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Yeah, it would irritate the crap out of me as I'd find it condescending (even if it wasn't meant that way)... plus I'm one of the least romantic people on earth. But as you said, different strokes and all! __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

02-02-2015, 08:09 PM	#74
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Remember Donnie has never encountered a girl before April. Before her the only girls he's ever seen were on TV. So you can't expect him to know how to behave around someone of the opposite gender if he's been surrounded by guys his whole life. And through out his time with April he does pay attention to how she reacts to him and his attempts to get her attention. So if she doesn't seem to like it or doesn't seem all that appreciative, he doesn't do that ever again. So season one, yes he does come across rather strong in his feelings for April. But April doesn't fault him for it because she is aware that he's never been around an actual female before. Now if Donnie was a human and had these behaviors yes it would be creepy. I remember dating a guy from I dated in Anime Club when I was attending Diablo Valley College. On our first date we had Sukiyaki at a Japanese Resturant and went to watch Goblet of Fire. Since it was around midnight when we left the theater, he said he needed to stop by his house so he can rest for a bit before he took me home. At one point he told me he loved me and sort of expresses that he wanted me to sleep with him. I refused to do so on the grounds that I didn't know him well enough to do that and when I told a friend about this she was both suprised and appaled that he would want to go that far on the first date. That is what one would classify as a creep. As for Donnie calling April his sweet princess, during season one Donnie did think of April as someone who should be protected. And he had been nothing but worried about her because she was facing off against another more experienced Kunoichi of whome she had very little chance of defeating. And he was not in a position or place he could help her. So when checks on her to see if she's okay, he is so over joyed to hear she's alright he does stick his foot in his mouth. But she forgives him for it because she knows he's just glad she's okay. Most of the time Donnie is very respectful of April's personal space. Most of the hugs April inniates herself and any touches he gives her is because she allows him too. There is only one time Donnie trys to innitiate a hug and April gives him a look indicating that she wasn't interested, which he respects. Casey on the other is more prone to slinging an arm around April's shoulders and he has those "When are we going on a "real date"?" questions. When really he's looking for a chance to COUGHmake outCOUGH. Season two Donnie has toned down his relationship with April. Partially because he knows his both he and his brothers have taken someone very important from her, and he wants nothing more then to make things right again. Yes he does say he's doing that with the hope that he can gain her back. But still he wants to return her father back to normal reguardless of how she feels about him. Simply because he feels he owes her that...as her friend. Take the moment when Opal and Bolin meet in in season three of Legend of Korra. Opal and Bolin like eachother from the moment they meet, and Opal is impressed by who he is as a person. But whenever Bolin tries to put on an act to get her attention Opal tells him he is acting weird and she doesn't like it. The same is true for Donnie, when he is trying to impress April or putting on an act to get her attention. April often just rolls her eyes or ignores him. But it's during the moments where Donnie is himself as her friend that his feelings for her actually shine through and that the Donnie April appriciates. And while we are introduced to a triangle between Donnie/April/Casey we are also reminded there once had been a triangle between Hamato Yoshi/ Tang Shen/ Oroku Saki. And there are some hints the latter triangle is going to be a mirror of the former. For example it was mentioned on a couple occasions in season one that Tang Shen both Yoshi and Saki. However when she chose Yoshi as her husbend, her other suitor could not accept it and let his anger and jealousy consume him. In mutagen man unleashed Donnie has this moment where he slips away from his brothers to check on how April was fairing when he sees her with Casey. So when they return to the lair, he at once rants to the pulverizer about how April must like this new boy because he's human he isn't happy about how April has a new boy in her life. Splinter over hears this rant and immediately invites Donnie to have a private lesson which was the lesson about learning how to like falling down. Which was ment to remind Donnie that he can't force April to like him back. However the underlying part of the lesson was to prevent Donnie from stumbling down the path that his former friend had so many years ago. Even his converstation at the end did imply that it will be April's choice if she chooses him or not. I know some of you reading this feel I am looking into things a little to much into things and it's possible that I am. However I don't think that it's entirely coincidental either. When Casey is introduced to the turtles, Donnie is of course not happy that his rival is even more involved in his life. While he visibly does make it clear he doesn't like the guy. He puts up with him for the sake of his brothers and April. Casey in turn also has suspected Donnie is more then just a friend to April and isn't shy about getting in Donnie's face about it. Their rivalry is one of the things that irritates April is she likes both and she knows they both like her. She just doesn't appriciate that they think of her as a prize that should be won. And yet in season three when the two of them are getting along better, she says "I thought I'd like them them getting along." To which Raph says "You and me both." Meaning as irritating as they are when they fight, they are more annoying when they get along. In the season two finally there is a moment where Donnie tries to confess his feelings, but April cuts him off and hugs Casey saying she was worried that she lost him forever. Part of that was because her dad was already freaking out about the invasion. Having Donnie confess his feelings to her right then and there would not have been a welcome revealation. Particularly since her father seems to be protective of her and we don't know what his views of her dating actually are. And even if he was okay with her dating, having the significant other be a mutant might be to much to hope for. As some of us can recall the moment from the gauntlet where Donnie tells Kirby he thinks April is nice to which Kirby looks at him with a "WTF" expression. Her expressing feelings for Casey was to help Donnie keep his mind focused on what was at stake which was getting his family, her father, and hers, through the Invasion and out of the city. And he couldn't do that if he was focused on her. Also in the season two finally we see two different aspects of how the boys see April. We see Casey spray tagging and image of April and himself and April is depicted as someone who should be protected. While Donnie has April sitting along side him his diagram of the Turtle Mech implying that he see her as an equal. In season three so far Donnie's feelings are toned down considerably. But yes the event with Big Foot did help with that as it did show him some of what his behavior was for April. I mean yes the music box was a sweet gift and anyone could have seen that he had worked really hard on it. However what really destroyed any sentimentality with it was putting a picture of himself on the inside cover instead of a mirror. If it had been a picture of all of them and her father...or a picture of something she personally would have liked such as her favorite flower or poem. Maybe it would have been more appriciated. But having Big Foot following him around like a puppy, which is more season one Donnie's behavior not season three Donnie. It still gets him to realize that his efforts in trying to bring April closer to him were hurting her. So in the end he tells April that he'll back off and stop pursuing her and that he understands that she'll never see him the way she wishes she would see him. This is the one moment that proves that April does have feelings for Donnie. Majority of the times when April has kissed Donnie, it has been kisses of appriciation and gratitude. And I don't recall Casey being kissed at any point. Hugged yes, but kissed no. However this one moment April kisses Donnie of the lips/beak. If she just thought of him as a friend, she would have hugged him and said thank you. But instead she kisses him and says he is her mutant as a way of saying "Don't give up on us just yet." His statement of "I understand nothing" is he doesn't really understand what the kiss ment because he had been psyching himself in saying good bye. How this triangle will continue to form will depend on how the season progresses. Because at this point its still anyones guess as to who April will choose. __________________ Last edited by victory_angel; 02-02-2015 at 10:29 PM.

02-02-2015, 08:21 PM	#75
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Yeah but I mean, it's been long enough now that he should know how to act vaguely appropriate. In the initial stages, sure, I'll cut the kid some slack - but it's just lost all charm for me by this stage. They have tv, they go out in the real world now, and it's not like he's completely unsocialised or was raised by wolves - and the fact that his bros called him out on him stalking April in Season 2 (and he had the grace to look embarrassed) means he clearly knows better by this point. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

02-02-2015, 05:48 PM	#71
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Honestly, it seems to go over better with people who are semi-insecure. It makes them feel special. I've noticed that a lot of people who are more confident/secure find it to be kind of pandering. Like I tell folks at the gym, "Everyone's an individual."

02-02-2015, 08:25 PM	#76
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Kind of amuses me when people justify the behavior of a TV character as if they were real, when it's actually the writers who should know better.

02-02-2015, 11:42 PM	#79
UnwiseOne Mouser Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Philippines Posts: 10	Me as an Apritello fan would love an Apritello ending, but realistically I want it to be open ended in which she neither chooses anybody and let the fanfics deal with the ending they want. That's because whether I see Donnie react to any Casey/April moment I just feel sad for the guy, I mean the 'Foot too Big' episode is the way to let the romantic subplot rest for awhile and let the guys have character development and whatnot and let Donnie move on. And if the writers really like to have an apritello ending then they can do that with an unrequited love switcheroo. That would more interesting in my opinion. Also it looks like this love triangle is becoming like that of the makorrasami love triangle, in which Donnie becomes Mako, and Casey/April becomes Asami/Korra respectively. I just hope that doesn't happen, which is more likely.