Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep11: "The Pig and the Rhino"

[Huzzah]

Originally Posted by Ravenshell

Corny and hella old school, but I really want a "get moose and skvirrel" line from Rocksteady now. *L*

Monty Moose/Squirrelanoid future team up. Why the heck not?

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by Huzzah

Monty Moose/Squirrelanoid future team up. Why the heck not?

Because Squirrelanoids aren't sentient and can't talk. It'd make more sense for them to make a feral moose-creature and then there's an infestation of squirrelanoids and that moose-creature.

[Huzzah]

I honestly put no legit thought into the comment, I just tried to pull two TMNT characters in existence (despite separate toylines) to give the "Moose and Squirrel" moment.

[xenopokemon]

Sorry about that ^^'

[TurtleTitan97]

Pretty great episode. Bebop & Rocksteady were actually pretty awesome! Glad the writers decided to make them different from their OT counterparts.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by saber16

It sounds to silly? Any sillier than a rhino man and a mohawked warthog fighting overgrown bandanna wearing turtles?
Truthfully, if anyone could make these names sound badass, it's this incarnation of Shredder.

Point taken.

[Huzzah]

Originally Posted by xenopokemon

Sorry about that ^^'

It's all good. No harm, no fowl (as in Ace Duck)...wait, no, that pun made no sense here...

[victory_angel]

Anyone notices that Rocksteady steps on the retromutagen and nothing happens. It is largely possible that he only stepped on the container and never officially touched the substance itself. But it could it also possible that Retromutagen doesn't effect the mutagen as it is now.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah of the two I dig Rocky. I do like that Zeck won't be called Bebop. It's a nice touch.

Whenever someone calls Rocksteady Rocky, I always flash back to Turtles At The Earth's Core where Krang uses that nickname while they're throwing that crystal around. hehe And Anton just sounded so hurt by his new nickname. That was priceless. I also liked the two actually giving Mikey time to think them up! Sucked that the diversion failed, however.

I loved this episode. Neat to see things picking up where they left off. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who teared up when Karai was saying her goodbyes, even though we all know things will probably end up okay. B and R were pretty competent for a change! These two haven't disappointed me so far. I wonder what's to become of that retro-mutagen. Hope none of the turtles end up demutated. As for next week's episode, I suppose I'll have to wait until amazon gets it. Can't wait for BFNY. I plan on watching that one while enjoying a pizza. Hurry up already, next Monday. This is one of those times when I sort of wish I still had cable. I'm very tempted to read the Battle For New York thread but I'll be good. Man, being good is for the pigeons.

[Darth Knuckles]

Yeah I'm just glad this version of Bebop and Rocksteady are more competent this time around. I've always wanted them to seem a little more dangerous against the turtles as villains. At least they seem to be more of a threat than previous incarnations.

[saber16]

Originally Posted by Darth Knuckles

Yeah I'm just glad this version of Bebop and Rocksteady are more competent this time around. I've always wanted them to seem a little more dangerous against the turtles as villains. At least they seem to be more of a threat than previous incarnations.

Yeah, they're formidable opponents while at the same their goofy in their own ways. They joke around, show off, bicker and fighter with one another, but at the same time they can take the turtles head on, pick up clues on where their enemy is going, ambush and capture them - they even managed to catch Karai in no time when Shredder's top ranks couldn't even locate her after months.

So far, this is easily my favorite incarnation of the two yet.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

Anyone notices that Rocksteady steps on the retromutagen and nothing happens. It is largely possible that he only stepped on the container and never officially touched the substance itself. But it could it also possible that Retromutagen doesn't effect the mutagen as it is now.

His foot was mostly on the container, so likely the retro-mutagen didn't touch him and thus didn't affect him.

But I do agree that they're more competent now, and I think it's going to be a slap in the face to Rahzar and Fishface that these two were able to capture Karai while Rahzar and Fishface kept failing. I wonder if Shredder will keep his promise and make them answer to Tiger Claw. Though I do think one of them may turn on him.

[METALHEAD]

Originally Posted by turtle1237

Enjoy it. Loved the return of Bebop and Rocksteady. I man loved these guys, but the originals will always have a place in my heart.

Kinda of shock no one mention the monsters cameo. Frankiestine, Wolfman, Creature of the black Lagoon, I was seeing this and was like OMG. Being a big fan of the 1930's monsters movies, I was shock to see the monsters here.

I did!! I watched the old universal films in my teens as away to get away from the harshness of highschool. It made squeal to see reference to my fave fandom of all time! It was just great to get a nod to them. Someone is a monsterkid in the studio eh? Anyway...It was greatly enjoyed by a classic monster fan like me.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

His foot was mostly on the container, so likely the retro-mutagen didn't touch him and thus didn't affect him.

But I do agree that they're more competent now, and I think it's going to be a slap in the face to Rahzar and Fishface that these two were able to capture Karai while Rahzar and Fishface kept failing. I wonder if Shredder will keep his promise and make them answer to Tiger Claw. Though I do think one of them may turn on him.

I'd forgotten about Rahzar and Fishface. Hopefully we'll see them in Battle For New York. It's got to be crazy at Shredder's lair with all those mutants hanging around. Oh, I liked that line they put in there about Baxter fixing Bebop's stealth suit. Almost forgot about that.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I just watched the episode today. I thought it was really well-done. I loved the bit where Leo and Mike endure the funhouse as well as them and Raph riding the roller coaster while avoiding Rocksteady. And I love when Bebop hated his nickname. It made me laugh so hard because it felt like it took another shot at the OT for it's corniness. The Karai bits made me so sad though, especially the ending. But she was right about losing control since she attacked a rat at the end of the episode.

Rocksteady for me is a huge improvement over his OT counterpart. He's actually a threat this time and I think his voice actor does a better job than Cam Clarke did (no offense to Cam). Bebop on the other hand is just annoying. The guy only does close combat when he's invisible. Outside the Tron-like powers, there's nothing going for him as a warthog.

Good episode, probably one of my favorites of this season.

[drgon78]

Good episode, it is nice to see Rocksteady and Bebop back in action after all these years.

[Ninjinister]

Wow, that was legitimately sad. I expected Mikey to ruin the "departure of Karai" scene with a dumb joke or something but he was serious throughout that entire part.

[Nasubionna]

I loved the hell out of this episode. I adore Bebop and Rocksteady, and it makes me kind of sad that lots of people seem to dislike Bebop in this incarnation… I personally think he's super funny and I like his design and the way his physique contrasts with Rocksteady. It carries over from the differences in their physiques as humans, and also rhinoceros vs. warthog. Besides, I like that he's more of a ranged stealth/tech fighter/tracker as opposed to both him and Rocksteady being huge burly bruisers. Plus, his warthog mutation does have advantages other than brute strength: like he said himself, his piggy nose is better than a bloodhounds.
Love both of their voice actors performances, and that Sterenko seems to be psychologically dealing with his mutation a bit better than Zeck is (which I didn't see coming). I loved Rocksteady's smile at being called "rad" by Casey, and the thought of Steranko doing pilates made me laugh out loud. I cracked up at Bebop hating his nickname, and that his biggest weakness seems to be his inability to keep his mouth shut while fighting, haha! They are both funny, I love their bickering and camaraderie, but they are also legit threats to the turtles. I hope they stay that way for awhile.
Sad turn of events for Karai… I do wonder what will happen with her now.
Overall, this is probably my favorite episode this season, though Serpent Hunt and In Dreams come close.

[FlawedCoil82]

I am not a fan of Zeck/Bebop. All those Michael Jackson "hee hee"s are getting super annoying. Rocksteady is pretty cool though!

[Stacebob]

I dunno about you, but I absolutely adored this episode. I loved Bebop and Rocksteady back in the 80s show, and even though the Nick versions are quite far removed, they're still chuffing brilliant! J.B. Smoove is completely killing it as Bebop; his line delivery is top notch and the dialogue he's been given is great. Love both their new looks and the weird-but-kinda-cute friendship they seem to have, and I must say, Bebop's lasers are pretty darn sweet. Nice to see that they both seem to have gained a few brain cells since the original show!

On top of that, it was great to see Donnie and Casey working together again; as much as I adore Donnie (and that's a lot), I find his infatuation with April difficult to stomach, given that it can't go anywhere (pretty sure a kid's show isn't going to have a young girl date a mutant turtle anytime soon! ), so I like when Donnie stops butting heads with Casey.

Cor, Shredder's going a bit bananas, eh? Loved that he took Rocksteady's rhino-rush completely in his stride, like the complete awesome bada** that he is!