Dragonball and Z discussion

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by THGhost

April 18th in Japan.

ah bummer. which means we could be waiting awhile for a US English dubbed release

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

ah bummer. which means we could be waiting awhile for a US English dubbed release

Yep, hopefully not as long as last time though. Battle of Gods' dub took forever since Fox made the movie and had to give Funimation permission to dub it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

oh cripes that doesn't vote confidence lol

[CyberCubed]

FUNI also never dubbed the 2008 Jump special which was the first new DBZ special/movie since 1997.

[sdp]

How many times have they redubbed the original anime and they still haven't dubbed the special? Talk about odd. Could be a rights issue? Or maybe they didn't know how they'd be able to release it? Still it sounds pretty silly. I don't think any of the recent specials have been dubbed in any language either.

[Shred Head]

To those wondering when America gets this movie its been answered and apparently a week before Japan's official release date. Sadly it wont be dubbed you will have to wait for the Summer 2015 release for the dubb. But either way that's pretty damn awesome. Never even thought this was possible but it really seems like Funi has stepped up there game. Anime industry really needs to do more of these quick releases of big properties.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/15...esurrection-f/

It’s the news fans have been waiting for! FUNimation Entertainment is proud to announce its acquisition of the theatrical, home entertainment, video on demand and broadcast rights to the upcoming Japanese animated feature film Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’.

Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ represents the nineteenth feature film in the Dragon Ball series. Series creator Akira Toriyama was directly involved in the film’s production, just as he was in the highly successful Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. The English dub of the new film will be released in theaters across North America in Summer 2015.

However, fans of the franchise may not have to wait until summer to get a look at the film! FUNimation Entertainment has teamed up with 20th Century FOX & Toei Animation to host the world premiere of Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ (in Japanese w/ English subtitles) at the Egyptian Theatre in Los Angeles, CA on Saturday, April 11. So, if you’re in the Los Angeles area you can be among the first in the world to see Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’. A limited amount of tickets to the premiere will be available to fans and the general public beginning today at dragonballz.com.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Well I won't be in the LA area so I'm waitin til summer

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Shred Head

To those wondering when America gets this movie its been answered and apparently a week before Japan's official release date. Sadly it wont be dubbed you will have to wait for the Summer 2015 release for the dubb. But either way that's pretty damn awesome. Never even thought this was possible but it really seems like Funi has stepped up there game. Anime industry really needs to do more of these quick releases of big properties.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/15...esurrection-f/

Very cool! Glad to hear it's being brought over this soon. Though I guess it's not surprising considering how well Battle of Gods did.

My local theatre had a couple screenings of that last summer, so hopefully they'll bring this in too.

[TurtleTitan97]

Finally managed to finish watching "Z" for the first time through last week. Really great stuff. The Majin Buu story arc wasn't all that bad as I heard from some people, imo. I thought Battle of Gods was fantastic, not to mention hilarious. Really looking forward to the sequel.

Started watching GT out of curiosity a few days ago. It's alright, but definitely weaker in terms of storytelling compared to the first two series.

[CyberCubed]

Are you watching the dub or the Japanese version with subtitles?

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Haha, do you remember what it was? A movie/episode/etc?

I think it was a movie? There was some little green guy and I think someone got kidnapped, Goku's kid? He got drunk from a tree and then Goku fought some guys. Mad fuzzy in my head now lol.

Anyways, I watched a few of what the Internet has deemed "choice cuts" from DBZ at like 4 am while trying to fall asleep, which admittedly is the worst way to try and gauge any anime, but and I can tell Dragonball will never be my thing. I think maybe if I had the patience to watch it when it was a "thing" I probably could have enjoyed it, but I don't know that I can step back and look at DBZ through a lens that isn't skewed by One Piece.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I think it was a movie? There was some little green guy and I think someone got kidnapped, Goku's kid? He got drunk from a tree and then Goku fought some guys. Mad fuzzy in my head now lol.

Anyways, I watched a few of what the Internet has deemed "choice cuts" from DBZ at like 4 am while trying to fall asleep, which admittedly is the worst way to try and gauge any anime, but and I can tell Dragonball will never be my thing. I think maybe if I had the patience to watch it when it was a "thing" I probably could have enjoyed it, but I don't know that I can step back and look at DBZ through a lens that isn't skewed by One Piece.

Haha, that's Dead Zone, the first movie.

But yeah I can agree that it's probably not going to be your thing -- I can't imagine Dragonball being easy to "get" nowadays. I feel like it's something better understood and liked if you caught it while it was relevant, especially since it created or established a lot of shounen storytelling and tropes. It's the original, which means there are going to be glaring flaws that later anime didn't have because they improved upon what Dragonball established.

Sort of like a classic Horror film, I suppose.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Are you watching the dub or the Japanese version with subtitles?

I'm watching the dubbed version.

[sdp]

How is DBZ a "product of its time"? It became popular/started airing in the US ten years after its original airing. DBZ movies while they do show what the anime is about in a small movie the stakes are not felt like in the series. You'd really have to start from the beginning and if you don't like the Saiyan saga then yeah it's not for you. There's a lot of filler there though.

I actually think Peanut would enjoy the series if he started with the original Dragon Ball, it's much different than DBZ. It's an Adventure/Comedy with action. The world is filled with imagination and ideas and it's really about a journey, the action is not its main focus but is awesome. Great show. The end of Dragon Ball is a little more action oriented and it's still good but it goes over the top with DBZ when it's not only no longer an Adventure show but just action and most of the world building from DB is gone. DBZ is fun if you only expect cool fights and nothing else, but the whole power level thing gets ridiculous after the Freeza saga. GT on the other hand tried to go back to the magic of DB which is why fans hate it since they were first introduced to DBZ and not DB, the second half is a little more like DBZ but with the fun of DB. I still don't understand like I mentioned earlier how people can enjoy some of the secondary characters in DBZ if you didn't see DB first.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Crunchyroll needs to add DB and DBZ damn it! lol

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by sdp

How is DBZ a "product of its time"? It became popular/started airing in the US ten years after its original airing. DBZ movies while they do show what the anime is about in a small movie the stakes are not felt like in the series. You'd really have to start from the beginning and if you don't like the Saiyan saga then yeah it's not for you. There's a lot of filler there though.

I actually think Peanut would enjoy the series if he started with the original Dragon Ball, it's much different than DBZ. It's an Adventure/Comedy with action. The world is filled with imagination and ideas and it's really about a journey, the action is not its main focus but is awesome. Great show. The end of Dragon Ball is a little more action oriented and it's still good but it goes over the top with DBZ when it's not only no longer an Adventure show but just action and most of the world building from DB is gone. DBZ is fun if you only expect cool fights and nothing else, but the whole power level thing gets ridiculous after the Freeza saga. GT on the other hand tried to go back to the magic of DB which is why fans hate it since they were first introduced to DBZ and not DB, the second half is a little more like DBZ but with the fun of DB. I still don't understand like I mentioned earlier how people can enjoy some of the secondary characters in DBZ if you didn't see DB first.

Dragonball is still very much a product of its time over here, because it aired over here when dubbed anime was still a new concept. We weren't familiar with shounen's tropes and storytelling style, so Dragonball still worked just fine.

Though I do agree that with getting an adult into the series, the original Dragonball is the best way to do it. But that doesn't mean they'll like Z. I know plenty of adults that like DB, but not Z.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Dragonball is still very much a product of its time over here, because it aired over here when dubbed anime was still a new concept. We weren't familiar with shounen's tropes and storytelling style, so Dragonball still worked just fine.

Though I do agree that with getting an adult into the series, the original Dragonball is the best way to do it. But that doesn't mean they'll like Z. I know plenty of adults that like DB, but not Z.

Practically everyone I know who loves Z has never watched DB, including myself. This is no doubt because, to my knowledge, DB has never aired on Cartoon Network UK. If it has, then we all missed it.

[CyberCubed]

Dragonball is a great series. The filler doesn't drag on as much as DBZ does and seeing Goku as a kid going on adventures with Bulma, Krillin and Yamcha is fantastic. Also Master Roshi is at his best in Dragonball.

I also loved all 3 tournaments in Dragonball. Seeing Goku get better at each one and the final one against Piccolo himself was fantastic. Anyone here who never saw Dragonball before go track down the FUNimation dub or Japanese version and watch through it.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Dragonball is a great series. The filler doesn't drag on as much as DBZ does and seeing Goku as a kid going on adventures with Bulma, Krillin and Yamcha is fantastic. Also Master Roshi is at his best in Dragonball.

I also loved all 3 tournaments in Dragonball. Seeing Goku get better at each one and the final one against Piccolo himself was fantastic. Anyone here who never saw Dragonball before go track down the FUNimation dub or Japanese version and watch through it.

Oh I intend to, right after I finish re-watching all of Z and reading its Manga.

[CyberCubed]

The upcoming movie made me nostalgic so I've been watching several memorable DBZ moments on youtube. I don't have the time to watch the entire series anytime soon so youtube if a great way to relive some of the best moments for the time being. Funnily enough all the top moments I remember are up there in youtube clips.

One thing that bugged me is Android 18 never did much fighting during the Buu saga. I mean she's stronger than a Super Saiyan for goodness sakes, stronger than all the humans on the planet, and yet the story leaves her with Bulma, Chi Chi, and Videl like she's just an average human. Like...what?

Is Android 18 even in the new movie? She should be out there fighting Freeza's men with the rest of them especially since Krillin and Tien are.