TMNT Season 3 Official Info Thread

[matteso586]

Originally Posted by Ashwolf

would love if they did something like this in the show cause

1. I hate how karai got mutated in the 1st place

2. it would open some awesome twists in the plot and hopefully, 1 of which being a good genes arc, if not that then a secondary mutation at the very least

Agent Bishop has to make a possible debut first.

[lonewarrior20]

Originally Posted by ImmaAxolotl

Why? Is that line a reference to something?

it's from the 3rd movie. don says it when walker is about to fire his cannon at them. i hope mikey says it in the next episode.

[shredder orokusaki]

Time travel possibly will be in ancient Japan and/or some other countries. It will not change the events that already happend( like the Karai mutantion and the Kraang invansion).

[BubblyShell22]

I'm sure the Turtles will want to rescue Shen, but they won't be able to because that would change history and the Turtles would never exist if Shen survived. But I have a feeling they will meet her before she dies and it will be emotional once they witness the attack on Yoshi's home. Either way, I can't wait for this episode to air.

[ImmaAxolotl]

Originally Posted by Ashwolf

would love if they did something like this in the show cause

1. I hate how karai got mutated in the 1st place

2. it would open some awesome twists in the plot and hopefully, 1 of which being a good genes arc, if not that then a secondary mutation at the very least

Originally Posted by matteso586

Agent Bishop has to make a possible debut first.

What if when they come back from time option #2 occurs, and the show introduces Bishop as a mysterious benefactor who helps them out for a price? I can imagine the dude doing that.

[Fang Wolf]

Is it true that there will be a Time travel EP? Then, I look forward.
- They will meet Oroku Saki before he became Shredder?

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Fang Wolf

Is it true that there will be a Time travel EP? Then, I look forward.
- They will meet Oroku Saki before he became Shredder?

That's true.

From what was leaked, that looks to be the case.

[matteso586]

Originally Posted by ImmaAxolotl

What if when they come back from time option #2 occurs, and the show introduces Bishop as a mysterious benefactor who helps them out for a price? I can imagine the dude doing that.

Speaking of Bishop, I've been thinking. 1) Some people are assuming that the Kraang droids' disguises look like Bishop. So maybe The Kraang's disguises come from DNA scanning. Which leads to number two. 2) If those rumors about Irma are true, something tells me that's where Agent Bishop makes his debut.

[Ursalink]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

I had similar idea about Tang Shen but it still sounds really bold. Maybe too bold. Tang Shen alive with Splinter will change the show and I can't see them doing something like that because the writers are such sticklers for status quo.

Truly, it would change the show; and maybe that's the reason because next season, the turtles are going to be lost in space, in Dimension X and stuff. I see it very possible. And if something I have learnt from this series is the expect the unexpected, like Irma being a robo-Kraang. I though they cured Karai just like that, but it seems we have what we wanted: a semi-mutant status. She's still human but it can change to mutant when she wants. Besides, the "status quo" thing doesn't exactly work. Everytime we have seen someone die, it always manages to return: Snakeweed, cockroach, the Chimera, Kraang Subprime... etc.

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I'm sure the Turtles will want to rescue Shen, but they won't be able to because that would change history and the Turtles would never exist if Shen survived. But I have a feeling they will meet her before she dies and it will be emotional once they witness the attack on Yoshi's home. Either way, I can't wait for this episode to air.

Yeah, I know the changing history thing; but in other time-travel's stories, I have seen that there's a way to cheat history. If the turtles take Shen with them to the future, the pain of losing her will still exist in the history, and they will manage to keep history without sacrificing her. I know we saw Hamato holding her body in the flashback, but I do believe there's a way to avoid it. You see:
+ The turtles could warn Tang Shen about what was going to happen, so she will protect herself with an armor or something to avoid the "death strike". If they don't warn her, there's another way.
+ Tang Shen is deadly strike, and while their house is destroyed, Yoshi cries over her body.
+ Furious, Yoshi lets Tang Shen and battle Shredder to death.
+ Meanwhile, without being discovered, the turtles takes Shen and puts baby Miwa in a safe place to make her survive.
+ While Yoshi and Saki fight, Leo uses his healing chi to cure Tang Shen, saving her life in the last moment, but leaving her unconscious.
+ When the Shredder leaves Yoshi to his death and takes Miwa with him, Yoshi loses conscious. In that moment, the turtles take him to safe place; saving his life without being noticed by the Shredder. Then, they will possibly leave him in a place that will make him leave to the USA.
+ History saved, the turtles return to the present with Tang Shen, when she's reunited with Yoshi (now Splinter).
+ Following episodes, Tang Shen will surely play an important role to defeat Shredder and recover Karai from him.

Just imagine Tang Shen talking to a perplexed Shredder:
+ "You miserable inhuman monster!!! You burned my family's home to ashes, almost killed my husband, took away my baby girl, turned her into a monster like you, AND YOU DARE TO SAY THAT YOU DID ALL THAT FOR ME?!!!!".

Even although this will be a very strange situation, I'm quite sure Tang Shen will be able to find a place in the turtles' family. I mean, there's always room for another human ally. And besides, to interact with the human world, April and her father could help her somehow.

[Fang Wolf]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

That's true.

From what was leaked, that looks to be the case.

Cool
So when it released then?

[ninja-zero]

I would love to see it possible. With Renet's help, Leo and the turtles can travel back in time to where Yoshi, Tang Shen & Saki lived.

Healing the wound on Shen but leaving her unconscious in a safe place would be the best thing to happen.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Ursalink

Truly, it would change the show; and maybe that's the reason because next season, the turtles are going to be lost in space, in Dimension X and stuff. I see it very possible. And if something I have learnt from this series is the expect the unexpected, like Irma being a robo-Kraang. I though they cured Karai just like that, but it seems we have what we wanted: a semi-mutant status. She's still human but it can change to mutant when she wants. Besides, the "status quo" thing doesn't exactly work. Everytime we have seen someone die, it always manages to return: Snakeweed, cockroach, the Chimera, Kraang Subprime... etc.



Yeah, I know the changing history thing; but in other time-travel's stories, I have seen that there's a way to cheat history. If the turtles take Shen with them to the future, the pain of losing her will still exist in the history, and they will manage to keep history without sacrificing her. I know we saw Hamato holding her body in the flashback, but I do believe there's a way to avoid it. You see:
+ The turtles could warn Tang Shen about what was going to happen, so she will protect herself with an armor or something to avoid the "death strike". If they don't warn her, there's another way.
+ Tang Shen is deadly strike, and while their house is destroyed, Yoshi cries over her body.
+ Furious, Yoshi lets Tang Shen and battle Shredder to death.
+ Meanwhile, without being discovered, the turtles takes Shen and puts baby Miwa in a safe place to make her survive.
+ While Yoshi and Saki fight, Leo uses his healing chi to cure Tang Shen, saving her life in the last moment, but leaving her unconscious.
+ When the Shredder leaves Yoshi to his death and takes Miwa with him, Yoshi loses conscious. In that moment, the turtles take him to safe place; saving his life without being noticed by the Shredder. Then, they will possibly leave him in a place that will make him leave to the USA.
+ History saved, the turtles return to the present with Tang Shen, when she's reunited with Yoshi (now Splinter).
+ Following episodes, Tang Shen will surely play an important role to defeat Shredder and recover Karai from him.

Just imagine Tang Shen talking to a perplexed Shredder:
+ "You miserable inhuman monster!!! You burned my family's home to ashes, almost killed my husband, took away my baby girl, turned her into a monster like you, AND YOU DARE TO SAY THAT YOU DID ALL THAT FOR ME?!!!!".

Even although this will be a very strange situation, I'm quite sure Tang Shen will be able to find a place in the turtles' family. I mean, there's always room for another human ally. And besides, to interact with the human world, April and her father could help her somehow.

As much as I'd like for this to happen, I just don't see it. Because if this does happen, then the Turtles cease to exist since the reason Yoshi went to America was because his wife was killed and his daughter was presumed dead as well. If Shen lives, then Yoshi has no reason to go to America and the Turtles would never exist without him being there and buying them. Again, it's a nice thought, but there are just too many risks, and I can't see them just changing history like that.

Originally Posted by Fang Wolf

Cool
So when it released then?

No date has been set for the release as of now.

[matteso586]

On topic: We have to wait for a summary in order to specify which time period that episode will be set in. Until then, don't get your hopes up.

Off topic: I have a feeling that an episode dealing with Bishop and the EPF will be as intense and brutal as Slash & Destroy.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by matteso586

On topic: We have to wait for a summary in order to specify which time period that episode will be set in. Until then, don't get your hopes up.

Off topic: I have a feeling that an episode dealing with Bishop and the EPF will be as intense and brutal as Slash & Destroy.

1. I agree with you on your first statement. I feel like everyone's talking about how Renet's going to help the Turtles save Shen. I honestly doubt that's going to happen. If anything, I feel like it's just going to be filler. Sorry, but after the big Dark Raph let down and having a filler-ish Karai episode (only thing it accomplished was having Karai be under the influence of Shredder, and there was absolutely no emotion to it.), I'm not so excited. Season 3 has been a huge let down so far, with the exception of episodes 8-13.

2. Bishop's entrance would be amazing. I'd honestly love for him to be Raph's villain. Donnie has the Kraang, Leo has the Shredder, and Mikey has mutant filler villains for the most part. Don't get me wrong, I want a Mikey villain, but I feel like Lord Dregg would be perfect. But for Raph? Bishop would be fantastic.

Also, we know Dregg IS coming to this show, and we had Shredder and the Kraang mostly on good terms with each other. Why not have Bishop and Dregg absolutely hate each other? It'd fit their characters and it'd be a great twist for the show to have both of the antagonists hate each other.

[BubblyShell22]

You can still have an emotional episode without having to change anything. Minae Noji did say on her Tumblr that she was doing a voice role and that it was emotional. Many of us believe she's voicing Tang Shen, so if that's the case, I have a feeling that the Turtles will meet her at some point during the episode and want to rescue her but they can't because it would change history, so they just have to witness the attack and the burning of the house if that's what they do.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

1. I agree with you on your first statement. I feel like everyone's talking about how Renet's going to help the Turtles save Shen. I honestly doubt that's going to happen. If anything, I feel like it's just going to be filler. Sorry, but after the big Dark Raph let down and having a filler-ish Karai episode (only thing it accomplished was having Karai be under the influence of Shredder, and there was absolutely no emotion to it.), I'm not so excited. Season 3 has been a huge let down so far, with the exception of episodes 8-13.

2. Bishop's entrance would be amazing. I'd honestly love for him to be Raph's villain. Donnie has the Kraang, Leo has the Shredder, and Mikey has mutant filler villains for the most part. Don't get me wrong, I want a Mikey villain, but I feel like Lord Dregg would be perfect. But for Raph? Bishop would be fantastic.

Also, we know Dregg IS coming to this show, and we had Shredder and the Kraang mostly on good terms with each other. Why not have Bishop and Dregg absolutely hate each other? It'd fit their characters and it'd be a great twist for the show to have both of the antagonists hate each other.

Donnie had the Kraang. They are gone now and their influence still remains. But Bishop is more like what Donnie would be if he were evil. Such as using scientific experimentation as a form of torture. Having little regard for who was effected in just as long as he gets what he wants. Causing a mutant outbreak in the interest in gaining more funding.

Dirk Savage on the other hand would be perfect for Raph. He's a mutant bounty hunter, and he could work along side Bishop to apprehend mutants for Bishop to experiment on.

[JTH]

I don't think they're being taken back in time to save Shen either, that to me seems like common sense.

I think the premise will be that we basically get the full Splinter/Shredder origin story and the Turtles are told that regardless of what they wish, they can't change the timeline, so they have to watch and witness everything that happened between Yoshi and Saki that led to everything that transpired in their lives.

Maybe as a side note, since we all speculated it's similarities, maybe they do something where Donatello sees the pattern of Splinter & Shredder's friendship/rivalry over Tang Shen is identical to his friendship/rivalry with Casey over April.

[BubblyShell22]

Yep, that's what I think is going to happen, too, and I think it'll be cool to see how it all transpired and for the Turtles to see it as well. It'll give them a valuable lesson that sometimes history can't be changed no matter what because then events that happened before won't happen at all.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by JTH

I don't think they're being taken back in time to save Shen either, that to me seems like common sense.

I think the premise will be that we basically get the full Splinter/Shredder origin story and the Turtles are told that regardless of what they wish, they can't change the timeline, so they have to watch and witness everything that happened between Yoshi and Saki that led to everything that transpired in their lives.

Maybe as a side note, since we all speculated it's similarities, maybe they do something where Donatello sees the pattern of Splinter & Shredder's friendship/rivalry over Tang Shen is identical to his friendship/rivalry with Casey over April.

Donnie's toned down the rivalry thing though. For instance in the mondo gecko episode there is a part where April is calling Casey because they have homework and she gets frustrated when he doesn't answer. But Donnie doesn't even bat an eye about it. And even in this last episode he acts more like he's just friends with her not in love with her.

But I agree Donnie could see a parallel between his relationship with Casey and the Shredder's relationship with Yoshi about Tang Shen. And that causes him to think okay maybe I should just step away and let things be what they will be.


Still in many cases the Turtles do unintentionally start things when they go to the past. In the Mirage comics they go back in time and start the Foot Clan.

In the IDW they go back in time and unintentionally cause the execution of the family they were reincarnated from.

So maybe in this episode, they unintentionally reveal that Oroku Saki was actually a child from the Foot Clan who was raised in the Hamato Clan. Oroku Saki hears this and feels nothing but anger because he was stolen from his true family and raised among his enemies.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

So maybe in this episode, they unintentionally reveal that Oroku Saki was actually a child from the Foot Clan who was raised in the Hamato Clan. Oroku Saki hears this and feels nothing but anger because he was stolen from his true family and raised among his enemies.

That could also explain why he is unable to express and feel attachment to people as people and not as object of his possession, because in his mind, he thinks that was done in order for Splinter's father to able to manipulate him and control him through love and affection.

Shredder's definitely has trust issues and maybe that is the reason why he treats with Karai with such emotional detachment so that she wouldn't go through what he went through with Splinter's father. He can't really tell her the truth but in his mind, he feels that he's helping her by preparing for it when she founds out, although he will still use her for his revenge.

I guess Shredder has a warped idea of what's right and wrong.