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Anyone think Bale looked sort of like Tom Cruise in Batman Begins? His younger look with his pair parted or in front of his face as young Bruce made him look a lot like that.
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Yeah, little bit.
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OKAY. Strap ya'self in. I stumbled across this through Superman Homepage. Apparently, the person who shared this on IMDB has revealed several accurate leaks recently about the movie, including stuff from some of the pics we saw the other day. Like always, still rumors and "grain of salt" and blah blah blah... but everything in here fits closely with everything we already know as Fact. And we DO know a lot if we've been paying attention.
And IF this is true... it's pretty much gonna be the Best Thing Ever. Big, sure. Probably about 3 solid hours. But it's definitely the scope this kind of movie should have. And as I've predicted, it's gonna be the most faithful comic adaptation since Watchmen. Not 100%... but about 96%, and that's close enough for me. IF this is true. Which it very well seems to be... Long, and spoils the ENTIRE movie IF it's true. SO, proceed with caution. Spoiler:
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SO. I need a f*cking towel. That's even better than what I was expecting. Which was pretty much That, but... Not quite as textured and detailed. They REALLY did the homework for this one. Halfway through I lost track of all the threads from various big comics storylines that were woven into it. And it all fits so well. I REALLY hope it's legit. Because it simply doesn't get any better than that. |
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His red briefs. ![]() But seriously - I don't want to spoil it for myself, so I didn't read. BUT do me a favour, and save a copy somewhere, so in 12 months we can see how close they were. But if this is out already...going to be a long 12 months. |
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I don't care if things are spoiled for me so long as they turn out good.
It's always neat to see how close reality matches my mental picture, or doesn't.Lotta story for a 3-hour movie... but WHAT a story. And if true, it brings every lingering thread from MoS to a natural, logical conclusion, as promised. And it's so the opposite of the "cram everything we can in there" approach of the TMNT flicks. There's stuff that was very carefully and delicately extracted from dozens of the greatest books and sewn into a larger tapestry, and it all fits very organically. A perfect streamlining of the larger DC canon in a way that fits a movie-style universe. If legit, it does a terrific job in quite literally making this movie a grand evolution from MoS into the larger cinematic DCU. AND, as I predicted, Superman ultimately and fully earns the mantle of "Earth's Greatest Hero". No more "shades of gray" or confusion by the end of this joint... the Good Guys and Bad Guys are fully established, and we head full-throttle into Justice League. Awesome. Seems like the "dark and bleak" stuff was all part of the slow build, to have (for a change) the super-heroes have to earn society's trust. Which is different for this kind of movie, it makes sense, story-wise, and I love it. It's very apparent to me that there really was a larger vision in place from the beginning that most people couldn't envision because certain things hadn't been revealed yet, or were being saved for this and future movies. But it all pays off a lot of "questionable" things from MoS, by way of things like "character evolution" and "plot development"... Who'da thunk it? Long wait, sure, but I expect it'll be worth it. If the rumors are true about Capt. Kirk getting the Hal Jordan gig for Justice League, they can go ahead and sign me up in advance for that flick, too. Oh god, I just realized that with all this stuff about the JLA interacting with the US gov't, that they're almost definitely gonna introduce Max Lord as their government-appointed liason at the beginning of the JLA movie... and then you have your NEXT 2 or 3 movies already in the can, what with Checkmate, Brother Eye, OMAC... and all the associated Batman stuff... and with Cadmus, I see Clone Superboy becoming a reality in the Superman series at some point. I see lots of things. And I'm very pleased with what I see. Let's hope this dude ain't jackin' us off. Last edited by Leo656; 07-04-2015 at 02:10 AM. |
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I couldn't resist but if true, I think most of my doubts can be put to rest, at least story wise. Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be one of those things that sounds great on paper but comes up short everywhere else. It's definitely reassuring but I'm more interested in seeing how all these events play out on film, that is, if any of it is true. So I'm not gonna get too excited just yet, but it does sound great.
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I don't know dude, I have a really hard time trusting Snyder.
I remember reading a fantastic script in 2008, where they tied the events of TF1 into Generation 1, a 140 page script of pure awesome. Took a long cold shower after reading that sh-t. It looked 100% legit. I was really excited, thinking finally, we'll see the real TF in a live action movie! The first was just a mulligan! Prime was back as a peterbuilt, bumblebee was a VW Bug. There were scenes on the arc, scenes on cybertron... I thought, "everyone's gonna be so thrilled with Transformers 2!" So, yeah... I mean, who takes the time to write a140 page hoax? A script of such elaborate design, a script that sounds incredible! To go to all that trouble... Yeah... |
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Reason I think it's legit is I've been following the entire thing pretty obsessively, as I do with all Superman movie projects, and the "leak" fits almost exactly with things that are already Fact, things that have already been spoiled. The broad strokes of the plot have already been spoiled. There's only so many ways they can take A, B, C, and tie it all together into a narrative. What surprises me, is not the story/sequence of events - that's literally the exact plot I expected the movie to have for months now - but rather how DEEP and how well put together it is. Just like with MoS, you have someone in Snyder who actually READ the books - not just cherry-picked cover images, like Singer or Liebsman do with their super-hero movies, and sat down with someone and said, "How do we make a story that is quite literally a love letter to the comic books?" And it's perfect. The story is Perfect, with all of its nuances and Easter Eggs and payoffs from the first movie and planting seeds for the next. Now it just has to look good. And I know Snyder's visual style is largely a matter of taste, but I think the Story will win over those who think his color palette is too drab.
I'm inclined to think it's real. It reminds me a lot of the leaks I found of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith back in the day. I can't remember where but I'd already read the entire plot for both of those about 6 months in advance, too, and it was all legit. Stuff gets out, somehow. In this case, since the reaction to the "leak" has been universally Positive, I'm inclined to think WB simply doesn't care. Or even allowed it, to assuage people's fears. I mean so much of the buzz has been mixed, this kind of thing can easily win over a lot of people who were on the fence expecting it to be something it's not. OR I'm just being hopeful because it's exactly the story as it SHOULD be. |
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I think it's going to look a lot different than MoS. Probably paced better, too. It's easy to forget but a lot of MoS was made in a panic, because they had to have a certain amount of it finished by a certain date or it would affect the Siegel lawsuit. Meanwhile, I think this one is all pretty much in the can already and they're spending the next 9 months polishing the visuals and such. I also don't expect a ton of annoying randomly-placed flashback scenes. Pretty sure this movie is much more linear, other than the fact that we know they have a brief flashback to the Waynes' murder.
Point being, I think they paid attention to a lot of what people were saying. |
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http://supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=16636
In the special Entertainment Weekly Comic-Con Preview magazine, director Zack Snyder talks about how "Man of Steel" will lead in to "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice", and speaks directly about the damage seen in the final battle between Superman and Zod, and the criticism the movie received because of that death and destruction. "I was surprised because that's the thesis of Superman for me, that you can't just have superheroes knock around and have there be no consequences," says Snyder. The director says he had always intended for the dead to be counted. Indeed, Batman v Superman addresses these concerns head-on - Superman's victims serve as Batman's impetus to take him down. "One of the things I liked was Zack's idea of showing accountability and the consequences of violence and seeing that there are real people in those buildings," says Ben Affleck, who plays Batman. "And in fact, one of those buildings was Bruce Wayne's building so he knew people who died in that Black Zero event." "There are other superhero movies where they joke about how basically no one's getting hurt," Snyder says. "That's not us. What is that message? That's it's okay that there's this massive destruction with zero consequence for anyone? That's what Watchmen was about in a lot of ways too. There was a scene, that scene where Dan and Laurie get mugged. They beat up the criminals. I was like the first guy, I want to show his arm get broken. I want a compound fracture. I don't want it to be clean. I want you to go, 'Oh my God, I guess you're right. If you just beat up a guy in an alley he's not going to just be lying on the ground. It's going to be messy." Source: EW.com |
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Yeah, I never understood the problem with the destruction in Man of Steel. It's awesome that they're addressing it in Dawn of Justice, but even if they didn't, so what? Most of the destruction came from Zod's world engine. Too many people act like Superman was doing the chaos when it was mostly just Zod throwing him from building to building. And it's not like the buildings even had people in them. It was made clear that people were evacuating the area. Not to mention, most of the city looked fine during Superman and Zod's aerial battle. It was mainly the area affected by the world engine that was destroyed. Also, it's a kryptonian invasion. What else do you expect? Zod's goal was genocide. Superman had no other choice but to stop Zod right there and then. But most importantly, it's fictional. Destruction is cool to see in an epic fight every once in a while. I've seen worse in the Justice League cartoon and everybody seems to be okay with it. So what's the difference now?
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Well, in fairness, I get the complaints because I made them myself. On the drive home from MoS, I said to my wife, "It's gonna be really tough to set him up as Earth's Greatest Hero after that fiasco. If there's any logic to it, then he's gotta be looked at as just as big a menace as Zod. All those people in Smallville and Metropolis saw was guys knocking over buildings and shooting laser beams at each other. Nobody's gonna notice or care that the guy in the cape is supposed to be the 'Good Guy'. They got a lot of work to do in the next one if they wanna put this guy over."
I didn't really have a lot of faith at the time, and was a little annoyed at a ton of things in the movie as I was leaving the theater, but it's grown on me since and I have a much clearer view of the big picture, and the larger story they're trying to tell. It's not just a movie or series about Superman being revealed and taking his place in the world; it's about a world in need of saviors, the emergence of gods among mortal men, and what separates the gods who would save us from the gods who would hurt us, and how humanity reacts to this new age. A lot of that stuff is traditionally kind of glossed over in traditional super-hero fare. Like the Hulk will wreck a city, but other than a little background blurb about how public opinion may be turning against the Avengers, there's no real follow-through or consequence. Clearly, these movies are taking a different approach. Spoiler:
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Am I the only one that thinks that there's an anti-DC bias on the internet? Marvel is clearly more popular and while I'd like to think we're all objective adults I know otherwise and DC vs Marvel is really no different than Nintendo vs Sony vs Microsoft where you have fanboys on all sides, but DC is clearly the underdog. No matter what DC does it gets criticized, they really are in a similar situation PR wise like Nintendo. "Why doesn't DC have a cinematic universe?" they decide to go that route and "Why is DC copying MCU?". "Why doesn't DC release non Batman films?", they announce non-Batman films "Why is DC releasing so many superhero movies?". "Why are there no consequences to the battle in MoS?", they address it and now we have "DC is only doing it because fans were complaining". "I don't want DC movies to copy Marvel", "Why aren't DC movies more like Marvel". When you have comments like "Superman is boring" which is the comic industry equivalent to "Nintendo is kiddy", I do think there's an anti-DC bias.
I do think there's starting to be superhero movie fatigue after we saw the B.O. of JW, I think DC's darker direction might be a breath of fresh air in superhero movies. Then again I could be wrong, I predicted the peak of SH movies back in 2012 after Avengers/Watchmen/TDKR since I didn't think the hype of those movies could be topped and it was able to so we'll see. |
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I think DC's history in the wider market is what's earned DC that bias, rather than it just appearing out of no where fully formed.
But please, keep up the spoilers and leaks, so then I really won't have to pay for a ticket.
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This movie will probably be better than a good chunk of the Marvel films.
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