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[Netkeeper]

Not to mention they are usually racist, narrow-minded, and mistreat women, animals, and sometimes children.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

^ What Net said.....

[Leo656]

If you treat everyone equally sh*tty regardless of where they're from, and just use that for Bonus Points, most people will let you get away with it. Like, "Haha, oh, you." And stuff like that.

[ProactiveMan]

Their ranks accommodate subgroups that are staunchly anti-immigration; a political viewpoint that they tactfully communicate to the wider community, via the time honoured forum of political discourse that is the back window of a dirty motor vehicle. A map of the country with 'F*ck off, we're full' printed across the centre will usually suffice.

I don't know if there was a clear delineation between urban and rural bogania historically, but the mining boom and the democratisation of air travel have given rise to an emergent and occasionally prolific strain know as FIFO (Fly-in fly-out). Bogans from the Perth metro area travel North to work in the resource industry, returning to Perth for a week at a time every three weeks or so. They can be easily identified by the yellow, orang and white reflective clothing (hi-vis) they are mandated to wear on site.

When your commute is over 2,000 km, living closer to work starts looking pretty inviting, so as a result, the state is now peppered with post-urban bogania. I don't know how they do it; there isn't much up North but red dirt and bad weather, and you have to be sober to work on a mine site.

Originally Posted by Cure

It's funny how this group of people are the only ones it's cool to be prejudiced against.

Don't forget the Irish, French and Italians.

[Leo656]

F***in' Portugese. You know who else chaps my ass? Those gargantuan Swedes.

[Katie]

Stereotypes are awful period. No matter what group they're against.

Nothing worse than someone finding out where you're from and automatically assuming something about you.

"Ohhhhh you're from Alabama. Do you have The internet there? Do you have Target? Or Wal-mart? Do you live on a cotton farm? Did you go to college? Are you in the Klan?"


Jesus Christ. It's not a third world country. I grew up in a city. We have allllllll the same stores and amenities you do. And education wasn't a problem. All my schools were national blue ribbon schools. Are you in the Klan? Much more likely in Pennsylvania and Montana than here.....

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yeah, I kinda doubt that. Extreme prejudice is far more prevelant in the South, due to history and civil rights issues that have caused bad feelings on BOTH sides for decades. Texas is no exception either, the biggest difference is that here, there are TWO groups of minorities that get a lot of hate.

[Jester]

Yep...because you can't be prejudiced OF the Redneck....it just don't work that way.

Come on people. Prejudice is prejudice, be it of a certain race, religion, or socioeconomic group.

[Katie]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yeah, I kinda doubt that. Extreme prejudice is far more prevelant in the South, due to history and civil rights issues that have caused bad feelings on BOTH sides for decades. Texas is no exception either, the biggest difference is that here, there are TWO groups of minorities that get a lot of hate.

There's not just one minority group here. Just like Texas has more than "TWO" minority groups.

Jester is absolutely right. Prejudice is prejudice and I really don't think it's more prevalent in the south. Baltimore, Chicago, Boston, New York City, L. A. Been to all those cities. All have massive racial issues. Racism is strong and exists in just as many places north and south of the Mason Dixon line.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by ProactiveMan

Their ranks accommodate subgroups that are staunchly anti-immigration; a political viewpoint that they tactfully communicate to the wider community, via the time honoured forum of political discourse that is the back window of a dirty motor vehicle. A map of the country with 'F*ck off, we're full' printed across the centre will usually suffice.

[Leo656]

I find most stereotypes have strong basis in Fact, thus, they can be a lot of fun. For example, I am Irish, also not very tall, and have something of a temper. My buddies love to have a poke at my expense from time to time; why should I get angry or even annoyed if pretty much everything people say about "My People" has a lot of truth to it? I'unno. Guinness really IS the best ale and that's entirely not my fault.

Words are Just Words and people need to not get so huffy. That's my position. Most stereotypes are broad exaggerations, but very few are flat-out lies. So what? Most of the time, it's someone just goofing around, and the rest, it's someone genuinely ignorant who you wouldn't want to have a conversation with anyway. Non-issue, to me.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Katie

There's not just one minority group here. Just like Texas has more than "TWO" minority groups.

Jester is absolutely right. Prejudice is prejudice and I really don't think it's more prevalent in the south. Baltimore, Chicago, Boston, New York City, L. A. Been to all those cities. All have massive racial issues. Racism is strong and exists in just as many places north and south of the Mason Dixon line.

Wasn't even saying there are ONLY two groups here, just that there are two that get the most flack- African-Americans, and Latinos. Most everyone else is ignored for the most part. Stop trying to read stuff into it that's not there.

Secondly, racism exists more OPENLY in the South, especially when one looks at groups like the KKK and others. They even try to recruit in schools at times, and I know this for a fact- the Ag teacher at my high school did just that. Try and tell me anyone would DARE do that outside the South!

Originally Posted by Leo656

I find most stereotypes have strong basis in Fact, thus, they can be a lot of fun. For example, I am Irish, also not very tall, and have something of a temper. My buddies love to have a poke at my expense from time to time; why should I get angry or even annoyed if pretty much everything people say about "My People" has a lot of truth to it? I'unno. Guinness really IS the best ale and that's entirely not my fault.

Words are Just Words and people need to not get so huffy. That's my position. Most stereotypes are broad exaggerations, but very few are flat-out lies. So what? Most of the time, it's someone just goofing around, and the rest, it's someone genuinely ignorant who you wouldn't want to have a conversation with anyway. Non-issue, to me.

This is why I like you, Leo. Im Irish, too, with the same traits as you- short, hot-tempered, and not afraid to fight. It might be a stereotype, but I own it! And I blame some hanky-panky with a leprecauhn for the short stature. Pretty sure there was at least ONE in the family tree....

[Mayhem]

Sorry....!



On a serious note, now I know you live there MsMD, but having been to the South several times on my travels, I have barely witnessed any racism and prejudice. Maybe I've been fortunate, maybe my friends who live there are more tolerant and open-minded about human relationships compared to some. Hell, if there was a problem, we wouldn't have all piled into the local Mexican place before the wedding last year, and the father of the bride knew the owner personally (which is how we got such a large booking at a discount!). So I'm hopeful of such things still being in the minority.

[Katie]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

On a serious note, now I know you live there MsMD, but having been to the South several times on my travels, I have barely witnessed any racism and prejudice. Maybe I've been fortunate, maybe my friends who live there are more tolerant and open-minded about human relationships compared to some. Hell, if there was a problem, we wouldn't have all piled into the local Mexican place before the wedding last year, and the father of the bride knew the owner personally (which is how we got such a large booking at a discount!). So I'm hopeful of such things still being in the minority.

I agree. I've witnessed more open racism in the north than in the south. And anyway, open or not, racism exists everywhere.


And Duckie, quit biting at me. I'm doing you no harm and not trying to start anything. 90% of what you guys say is me being mean or trolling is just you and 2 or three others taking things way out of context and getting defensive for no reason.

I only said it that way because you yourself implied that Texas was different because there was more than one minority group that was opressed. It's silly to think Latinos don't exist outside of the southwest. We have migrant workers here too. I'm a Spanish translator for alot of them at work. And I wager that the other minority groups would debate you on the fact that they are ignored for racism in this country. Muslims would like a word with you for sure. And native Americans....and Asians....

Maybe Texas is the big racist state. I dunno. But being in an interracial relationship, if there is racism to be had, I'm gonna see it. And for the most part, in the south, everyone is really cool and I get no problems. I have a large and diverse network of people around me from all different races, religions, genders, socioeconomic backgrounds, and political leanings. Everyone is cool and nothing even remotely negative comes up.

In the north I get more little comments and looks.

Racism exists everywhere, north and south. I just think it's convenient for northerners to bash southerners about it when they should be taking a good long look in the mirror. We've had to deal with the racism specter here for hundreds of years. The north acts like they don't have a racism problem. Gotta admit there's a problem before you can fix it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Katie

I agree. I've witnessed more open racism in the north than in the south. And anyway, open or not, racism exists everywhere.


And Duckie, quit biting at me. I'm doing you no harm and not trying to start anything. 90% of what you guys say is me being mean or trolling is just you and 2 or three others taking things way out of context and getting defensive for no reason.

I only said it that way because you yourself implied that Texas was different because there was more than one minority group that was opressed. It's silly to think Latinos don't exist outside of the southwest. We have migrant workers here too. I'm a Spanish translator for alot of them at work. And I wager that the other minority groups would debate you on the fact that they are ignored for racism in this country. Muslims would like a word with you for sure. And native Americans....and Asians....

Maybe Texas is the big racist state. I dunno. But being in an interracial relationship, if there is racism to be had, I'm gonna see it. And for the most part, in the south, everyone is really cool and I get no problems. I have a large and diverse network of people around me from all different races, religions, genders, socioeconomic backgrounds, and political leanings. Everyone is cool and nothing even remotely negative comes up.

In the north I get more little comments and looks.

Racism exists everywhere, north and south. I just think it's convenient for northerners to bash southerners about it when they should be taking a good long look in the mirror. We've had to deal with the racism specter here for hundreds of years. The north acts like they don't have a racism problem. Gotta admit there's a problem before you can fix it.

Speaking of taking things out of context.... I was simply stating that as far as overt bigotry goes, the groups that get the brunt of it HERE are the ones I mentioned, mainly due to history and inmigration reasons, profiling, and socio-economic concerns. Parts of Dallas are as bad as if not worse than many cities in the north to the point that places like Oak Cliff or South Dallas are considered dangerous for anyone from outside those neighborhoods.

Sure there are problems everywhere, but this state has a lot of that "good ol boy" attitude especially in rural or small town areas. It's often shown by bumper stickers or shirts much like the examples penny used, which I think is rather telling. I've been in several other states, Mississippi being one of the other "worst" I've seen of this kind of attitude. But where in the North, racial violence and such often provokes riots and huge protests and public outcry, here it is more often treated with a "shameful" comment or three, a news vlurb for a day or two, and- that's about it. People just don't really give a fig.

[Powder]

As a New Yorker who moved south 8 years ago, I find racism is far more "open" here, in that people say racist sh*t constantly because they're so ignorant they have no idea they're saying hateful nonsense to begin with. That, or they're proud of their stance & freely spew their BS. & there are so many traces of segregation left over, areas that are wholly black or wholly white, not a lot of mingling or mixed neighborhoods where I'm at now (SC). There's plenty of racism back in NY, more than you may expect, even, but it's behind closed doors a lot of the time.

[Icebot]

My wisdom tooth. I think I need someone to take it out.

[Powder]

Ebayers, the scum of the earth. F*cking bitch gives me neutral feedback because I didn't ship her item on a SUNDAY. Had this other used diaper making all kinds of threats at me because he mistyped the tracking # & thought I was ripping him off, then the item was one day late & somehow that's my fault. I don't work for USPS. Eat a dick.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by Powder

As a New Yorker who moved south 8 years ago, I find racism is far more "open" here, in that people say racist sh*t constantly because they're so ignorant they have no idea they're saying hateful nonsense to begin with. That, or they're proud of their stance & freely spew their BS. & there are so many traces of segregation left over, areas that are wholly black or wholly white, not a lot of mingling or mixed neighborhoods where I'm at now (SC). There's plenty of racism back in NY, more than you may expect, even, but it's behind closed doors a lot of the time.

As a New Yorker who moved to Florida I can also say there's a lot more homophobia out here although that is to be expected.

[BubblyShell22]

Icebot, sorry about your tooth.

Powder, that sucks about your order. Sometimes people can be rude.

As for racism, I think a lot of people assume it's prevalent in the South because of the fact that the South was for slavery while the North were against it, so that assumption is still there that Southerners hate black people all of the time. But, yeah, it's prevalent in the north, too. You've got gangs and all sorts of sh*t around and none of that will stop anytime soon. It just won't.

One thing I'd like to see to end racism is the blacks using the N word. Nobody should use that word for any reason because of its derogatory meaning. Maybe then people would stop using it altogether.