What Grinds Your Gears? :) - Page 223

*Cure* · 07-12-2015, 09:01 AM

Heh, n***a please. At this point it's like using buddy. Or bitch, in the way I used it.

*The Stryker* · 07-12-2015, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

One thing I'd like to see to end racism is the blacks using the N word.

I think not calling us 'The Blacks' would help tons.

*Netkeeper* · 07-12-2015, 11:46 AM

lmao, black people using that word isn't even racism

~~Leo656~~ · 07-12-2015, 04:21 PM

I'm gonna chime in agreeing with "Either Nobody can say it or Everyone" can. Hypocrisy and double-standards are annoying. I really can't stand hearing it, but I don't care either way as long as there's a consistent "rule". Either everyone can say it or nobody can, no one group of people "owns" a word.

People need to stop being such f*gs about it. Seriously.

*Refractive Reflections* · 07-12-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

It's funny how this group of people are the only ones it's cool to be prejudiced against.

I wonder how this conversation would go if the topic were people from Mexico.

...Or if this conversation was against other minority social groups too, particularly the ones they are a part of. ...It's funny how some of the ones who are most vehemently against stereotyping, are doing the same exact thing here.

*pennydreadful* · 07-12-2015, 07:09 PM

god bless the internet - we really will find a way to argue about anything.

Anyway, on to more important things; namely, me and my gear grind for the day: when you're looking at haircut inspo and you can't work out if you like the haircut or if you're just really attracted to the person sporting the haircut. Please tell me I'm not the only one who has this problem.

*Cure* · 07-12-2015, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

god bless the internet - we really will find a way to argue about anything.

Stereotypes and prejudices have been argued about long before the internet was even a thing. Not like they're some small insignificant thing.

It IS fascinating, however, that they're thrown away and disregarded as such on the internet.

*pennydreadful* · 07-12-2015, 08:19 PM

Yeah... here's the thing though - I may as well clear this up since I started the bogan-bashing:

1. I'm Australian. Culturally, we make fun of everybody (including ourselves) in a good-natured way. Other cultures can sometimes take things we say very seriously, when they're intended in fun. As a nation, we're pretty light-hearted and informal; that's just how we are. It probably also doesn't help that it's the internet, so people don't get tone or whatever; hence things come across as potentially sounding more mean-spirited than intended.

2. I cannot comment as to the American redneck, however I do consider myself an authority on bogans, as, well, I actually live in this country, and have lived in about half of our states altogether. While I will make the disclaimer #notallbogans (as some of them are lovely people by sheer virtue of the fact that they haven't punched me in the head when I walked by), when Australians make fun of bogans, we're talking about the anti-immigration, sexist, homophobic set; in short, the set that proudly proclaim those biases as values and purport to represent our country, the "real Australian way". When I - or any other Australian, for that matter - make fun of bogans, I'm making the point that they don't speak for me and they don't speak for this country with their "F*ck off, we're full" rhetoric. Which leads me to my third point:

3. As someone who's been physically assaulted by bogans twice (unprovoked, both times for looking visibly "like a lezzo", and the second time of which resulted in permanent damage to my jaw), yeah, I'm gonna make cracks about them. Do I hate all bogans? No. The vast majority of my comments about bogans are tongue-in-cheek. But I deal with the fact that every time I leave the house, I have to be spatially aware of potentially hostile people in my vicinity by making jokes. It's easier to laugh about something than spend time hating it or fearing it, and that's what I do.

In much the same way as I wouldn't presume to tell an African American or Mexican person how to feel about groups that are racist towards them, and in the same way that I have no conception of what life is like for people of color, or the oppressions and threats they do or don't have to face - I also don't expect people outside of my minority group to appreciate the nuances of my own life experiences as viewed through their own lens.

And that's the last I'm going to say on the subject; if anyone wants to discuss it further, they're welcome to PM me.

*Cure* · 07-12-2015, 08:37 PM

"Let's stick up for people who wanna **** their families, but it's cool to make fun of THESE people".

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 07-12-2015, 08:46 PM

Hey penny, I think we just found the first one! And surprise, surprise.....

*pennydreadful* · 07-12-2015, 11:45 PM

Ok campers: rise and shine, and don't forget your booties because it's cold out there today!

*Netkeeper* · 07-12-2015, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

"Let's stick up for people who wanna **** their families, but it's cool to make fun of THESE people".

Sometimes I wonder if you get paid to do all this baiting.

*Metalwolf* · 07-12-2015, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

"Let's stick up for people who wanna **** their families, but it's cool to make fun of THESE people".

Well, it's hard not to when some of the yokles one has seen sporting massive back boobies hanging out of their open-backed blouse, or wear shorts so ill fitting, that they have massive plumber's butt ballooning above the waistline while still insisting they can fit into a dainty size 8. Another identifier is the 'Angel's wings' some have tattooed onto their backs, while dropping Flaimin' Hot Cheeto's and Krispy Kremes into a cart where their 2 year old is chugging down Mountain Dew out of a 20oz bottle.

It's not making fun when they do stuff that actively invites it. Would you wear pantyhose over your head while hopping around pretending to be a bunny, and not expect someone to laugh and make fun of you? There is a point where you can tell a person at least made an effort to be presentable and have dignity, but sometimes yokles or white trash barely even try. Evidence? See People of Walmart. (Just to warn Googlers, PoW sometimes has a bit of profanity.)

*Powder* · 07-13-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf

It's not making fun when they do stuff that actively invites it.

One of the most ignorant things I've ever seen said on this board, really.

*Cure* · 07-13-2015, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

One of the most ignorant things I've ever seen said on this board, really.

I feel like you'd be more right if you didn't delete the rest of the post.

**Jester** · 07-13-2015, 12:43 AM

Let me "fix" that for you....*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

Well, it's hard not to when some of the n***ers one has seen sporting massive baggy pants with boxers hanging out of them or wear shorts so ill fitting, that they are practically pants. Another identifier is the 'Black Power Fist' some have tattooed onto their arms, while dropping watermelon and fried chickens into a cart where their 2 year old is chugging down Faygo out of a 20oz bottle.

It's not making fun when they do stuff that actively invites it. Would you wear pantyhose over your head while hopping around pretending to be a bunny, and not expect someone to laugh and make fun of you? There is a point where you can tell a person at least made an effort to be presentable and have dignity, but sometimes n***ers barely even try. Evidence? See People of Walmart. (Just to warn Googlers, PoW sometimes has a bit of profanity.)

See how completely over-the-top offensive that is?

*Please note this is SARCASM!

*shuriken* · 07-13-2015, 06:33 PM

Over the weekend my gears have been grind-ed to almost wheel like proportions. (I'm going to vent like hard)
So I go to Carbondale for school and try and head back to Chicago whenever I can to visit and work. I left Friday morning with a buddy of mine and the trip was cool, we drove his Jaguar 5 hours and I got home.

So on my way home I get texted from my ex-girlfriend (Ani)multiple times asking when I'll be home so we can eat lunch. Now some background, my pops owns an apartment building and I help him clean it, manage it, set up viewing when I can. I have been with Ani since October 2011. She and her sister needed a place to stay and there was an apartment open next to my folks' place (where I stay to visit). Now my dad wanted to rent it out at $750 but I convinced him to rent it out to Ani and her sister for $700 instead. This was in February 2014.
Fast forward a year later her mom gets evicted and is staying with them for "a few weeks" which becomes 4 damn months.
Which brings me to this weekend.
I worked overnight shifts from 10 pm to 5 am Friday and Saturday at Jimmy John's delivering sandwiches to folks. Friday was fantastic and we closed early and I made a good $70 in tips.
I wake up at 11 am to go to the bank and remembered Ani wanted to eat lunch so I giver her a call and I ask if she's free to go eat something. She tells me she moved out of her apartment, without telling any of us (my pops or I) and is living with her new boyfriend. I felt like such a f**king douche. We had broken up just a month ago and now she's living with someone else, while her mom is in the old apartment which isn't even leased to her.
I feel sick and tell her that is like a slap in the face, that I deserved to know. I then told her I wanted no contact with her and that she be happy with her new life.
Saturday night was ridiculous with Ridiculous drunk people feeling entitled to things and talking down on to my very emotional and pregnant manager. Some people suck. I didn't end up leaving until 6 AM because of the mess they left and a police call made.
Sunday I try calling my brother but he is avoiding me for whatever reason, and is butt hurt over sh*t that he and my sister argued about. What he doesn't realize is that we are trying to help his dumb-ass and he's too caught up in himself to.
Also this was the first time I talked to my dad about my grandma passing, since he was the only one of us that was able to go to her funeral and that got me all emotional.
Now I'd like to think that things happen for a reason and that everything in life is an endurance test to see how much you can take before you die, but this weekend straight up kicked my ass.
With all that I know I got friends and family that got my back, and it really is a blessing, but holy moley this weekend was rough.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-13-2015, 09:57 PM

HAH! Faygo.

THat reminds me... you know what this thread needs?

Spoiler:

*pennydreadful* · 07-13-2015, 10:28 PM

That definitely sounds like a sh*tty weekend, shuriken. Hope you feel better soon - try to do something nice for yourself to balance out the recent crapulence.

*ProactiveMan* · 07-13-2015, 10:52 PM

We're not talking about an ethnic or socio-economic group here. The bogan thing is not about social class; it crosses gender, ethnicity, income, location etc. It's a sub-culture, and making light of it is no worse than ribbing nerds, jocks, popped-collars, Ninja Turtle fans, or anyone else with compromised individuality.

07-12-2015, 11:46 AM	#4443
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	lmao, black people using that word isn't even racism __________________

07-12-2015, 07:09 PM	#4446
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	god bless the internet - we really will find a way to argue about anything. Anyway, on to more important things; namely, me and my gear grind for the day: when you're looking at haircut inspo and you can't work out if you like the haircut or if you're just really attracted to the person sporting the haircut. Please tell me I'm not the only one who has this problem. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

07-12-2015, 08:19 PM	#4448
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Yeah... here's the thing though - I may as well clear this up since I started the bogan-bashing: 1. I'm Australian. Culturally, we make fun of everybody (including ourselves) in a good-natured way. Other cultures can sometimes take things we say very seriously, when they're intended in fun. As a nation, we're pretty light-hearted and informal; that's just how we are. It probably also doesn't help that it's the internet, so people don't get tone or whatever; hence things come across as potentially sounding more mean-spirited than intended. 2. I cannot comment as to the American redneck, however I do consider myself an authority on bogans, as, well, I actually live in this country, and have lived in about half of our states altogether. While I will make the disclaimer #notallbogans (as some of them are lovely people by sheer virtue of the fact that they haven't punched me in the head when I walked by), when Australians make fun of bogans, we're talking about the anti-immigration, sexist, homophobic set; in short, the set that proudly proclaim those biases as values and purport to represent our country, the "real Australian way". When I - or any other Australian, for that matter - make fun of bogans, I'm making the point that they don't speak for me and they don't speak for this country with their "Fck off, we're full" rhetoric. Which leads me to my third point: 3. As someone who's been physically assaulted by bogans twice (unprovoked, both times for looking visibly "like a lezzo", and the second time of which resulted in permanent damage to my jaw), yeah, I'm gonna make cracks about them. Do I hate all bogans? No. The vast majority of my comments about bogans are tongue-in-cheek. But I deal with the fact that every time I leave the house, I have to be spatially aware of potentially hostile people in my vicinity by making jokes. It's easier to laugh about something than spend time hating it or fearing it, and that's what I do. In much the same way as I wouldn't presume to tell an African American or Mexican person how to feel about groups that are racist towards them, and in the same way that I have no conception of what life is like for people of color, or the oppressions and threats they do or don't have to face - I also don't expect people outside of my minority group to appreciate the nuances of my own life experiences as viewed through their own lens. And that's the last I'm going to say on the subject; if anyone wants to discuss it further, they're welcome to PM me. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).*

07-12-2015, 08:37 PM	#4449
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	"Let's stick up for people who wanna **** their families, but it's cool to make fun of THESE people". __________________

07-12-2015, 08:46 PM	#4450
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Hey penny, I think we just found the first one! And surprise, surprise..... __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

07-12-2015, 09:01 AM	#4441
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Heh, n***a please. At this point it's like using buddy. Or bitch, in the way I used it.

07-12-2015, 04:21 PM	#4444
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm gonna chime in agreeing with "Either Nobody can say it or Everyone" can. Hypocrisy and double-standards are annoying. I really can't stand hearing it, but I don't care either way as long as there's a consistent "rule". Either everyone can say it or nobody can, no one group of people "owns" a word. People need to stop being such f*gs about it. Seriously.

07-12-2015, 11:45 PM	#4451
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Ok campers: rise and shine, and don't forget your booties because it's cold out there today! __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

07-13-2015, 06:33 PM	#4457
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Over the weekend my gears have been grind-ed to almost wheel like proportions. (I'm going to vent like hard) So I go to Carbondale for school and try and head back to Chicago whenever I can to visit and work. I left Friday morning with a buddy of mine and the trip was cool, we drove his Jaguar 5 hours and I got home. So on my way home I get texted from my ex-girlfriend (Ani)multiple times asking when I'll be home so we can eat lunch. Now some background, my pops owns an apartment building and I help him clean it, manage it, set up viewing when I can. I have been with Ani since October 2011. She and her sister needed a place to stay and there was an apartment open next to my folks' place (where I stay to visit). Now my dad wanted to rent it out at $750 but I convinced him to rent it out to Ani and her sister for $700 instead. This was in February 2014. Fast forward a year later her mom gets evicted and is staying with them for "a few weeks" which becomes 4 damn months. Which brings me to this weekend. I worked overnight shifts from 10 pm to 5 am Friday and Saturday at Jimmy John's delivering sandwiches to folks. Friday was fantastic and we closed early and I made a good $70 in tips. I wake up at 11 am to go to the bank and remembered Ani wanted to eat lunch so I giver her a call and I ask if she's free to go eat something. She tells me she moved out of her apartment, without telling any of us (my pops or I) and is living with her new boyfriend. I felt like such a f*king douche. We had broken up just a month ago and now she's living with someone else, while her mom is in the old apartment which isn't even leased to her. I feel sick and tell her that is like a slap in the face, that I deserved to know. I then told her I wanted no contact with her and that she be happy with her new life. Saturday night was ridiculous with Ridiculous drunk people feeling entitled to things and talking down on to my very emotional and pregnant manager. Some people suck. I didn't end up leaving until 6 AM because of the mess they left and a police call made. Sunday I try calling my brother but he is avoiding me for whatever reason, and is butt hurt over sht that he and my sister argued about. What he doesn't realize is that we are trying to help his dumb-ass and he's too caught up in himself to. Also this was the first time I talked to my dad about my grandma passing, since he was the only one of us that was able to go to her funeral and that got me all emotional. Now I'd like to think that things happen for a reason and that everything in life is an endurance test to see how much you can take before you die, but this weekend straight up kicked my ass. With all that I know I got friends and family that got my back, and it really is a blessing, but holy moley this weekend was rough. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them Last edited by shuriken; 07-13-2015 at 06:39 PM.

07-13-2015, 09:57 PM	#4458
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	HAH! Faygo. THat reminds me... you know what this thread needs? Spoiler: *JUGGALO JESUS, BITCH!*

07-13-2015, 10:28 PM	#4459
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	That definitely sounds like a shtty weekend, shuriken. Hope you feel better soon - try to do something nice for yourself to balance out the recent crapulence. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).*

07-13-2015, 10:52 PM	#4460
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	We're not talking about an ethnic or socio-economic group here. The bogan thing is not about social class; it crosses gender, ethnicity, income, location etc. It's a sub-culture, and making light of it is no worse than ribbing nerds, jocks, popped-collars, Ninja Turtle fans, or anyone else with compromised individuality. __________________ ProactiveMan!