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Old 09-22-2015, 09:38 PM   #21
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Hey, don't fold! Just my opinion. Didn't mean to come off as browbeating; I just bolded one sentence for the TL;DR version.
No, in interent debating or whatever when someone doesn't respond back to the other person, the other person often assume that they totally won the argument, but it just really means that the other person not replying don't agree and don't care anymore.

it's just me trying not to be misleading and being friendly. Forum etiquette and all.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:47 PM   #22
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No, in interent debating or whatever when someone doesn't respond back to the other person, the other person often assume that they totally won the argument, but it just really means that the other person not replying don't agree and don't care anymore.

it's just me trying not to be misleading and being friendly. Forum etiquette and all.
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I'm not used to internet debating. I'm used to internet zoo monkey cages where the primates fling feces at each other. You are now my shining beacon of hope!
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:45 PM   #23
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I'm not used to internet debating. I'm used to internet zoo monkey cages where the primates fling feces at each other. You are now my shining beacon of hope!
We all try to keep it civil. You want to see debate, you should have seen when me and Ms.MarvelDuckie were arguing about the how a mutant turtle would behave normally if it wasn't raise like a human child and how a mutant turtle society would look like that are realistically base on actual turtles. My argument is that a society would be intelligent but alien and counter intuitive to human sensibilities.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...t=51106&page=2

I'm pretty sure that we were one post away from flinging feces at each other.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:53 PM   #24
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http://tmnt2012series.wikia.com/wiki/Tiger_Claw

I have zero clue how credible all of this is since I don't see any sources but it's interesting. Hopefully more is known about Tiger Claw in the 2nd half of season 4 after the Turtles go back in time to save the world. I really want Tiger Claw to betray Shredder and either side with the turtles or do his own thing.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:58 AM   #25
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Here is Ciro's interview on TigerClaw which hinted that he will eventually ditch the Foot clan:

http://www.nick-asia.com/shows/teena...w-video/jmbha6

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...WolhcuM#t=1292
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Old 09-23-2015, 06:18 PM   #26
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I was going to post the same thing. I guess what has me thinking about TC is the fact that he seems awfully dedicated to Shredder. Even when he does unsavory things to others that TC doesn't seem to like all that much. Here are some examples...

First he tells Shredder that the Kraang are hurting humans, or something like that, and Shredder tells him it doesn't matter to him what they do to the humans. TC doesn't seem to like that.

TC also watches Leo fighting "To the death" and states that he fights with honor or something like that and he seems to respect Leo, then he goes off and nearly kills him?

TC fights with Raph and tells him that he needs to control his anger almost sounding like a sensai or someone who is guiding him.

TC is always calling them cubs and it almost sounds like an endearment. I have always thought that at some point he will turn on Shredder and side with the turtles. It would be very cool if the turtles help him find the one who cut off his tail so he would join their side.

I just feel that TC isn't all evil, he just wants revenge and believes that Shredder is the only one who can deliver.

After the finale,
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After his outward shock and horror of what Shredder has done, I just wish he could maintain his memory and kill Shredder without warning, that way the guys don't have to do it.


I just wish they would continue his storyline. I would even take an episode about him if that's what it took, with the turtles by his side preferably.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:21 PM   #27
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Even though TC is a hired mercenary that doesn't mind breaking a few international laws to keep his employer please, no doubt even he have has his limits.

If he's not going to remember what happen at the end then what else will it take to convince him that Shredder had cross the Moral Event Horizon? Mowing down innocent padawans at the jedi academy?
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:04 PM   #28
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Even though TC is a hired mercenary that doesn't mind breaking a few international laws to keep his employer please, no doubt even he have has his limits.

If he's not going to remember what happen at the end then what else will it take to convince him that Shredder had cross the Moral Event Horizon? Mowing down innocent padawans at the jedi academy?
Like I said, I can see Donnie asking him about his mutation and what led to it. And what is he getting out of working with Shredder.

Tiger Claw might be resistant to it at first and say it's not the business as a cub. But Tiger Claw has been treated like an animal and as a weapon his whole life...perhaps someone seeing him and treating him like a person for once could be the difference here.
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Old 09-24-2015, 02:15 AM   #29
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So do you people actually care about Tiger Claw? I don't and I keep forgetting that he's even there, which really says something considering how seems they went out of their way to hype him up.
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:25 AM   #30
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So do you people actually care about Tiger Claw? I don't and I keep forgetting that he's even there, which really says something considering how seems they went out of their way to hype him up.
Yes people do. How can you forget Tiger Claw? He's been in most of the Foot episodes in season 3. Remember the reason why we care is because we never saw Tiger Claw as a human. If they kill him off somehow, we'll never know who he is and the fact that there's a rival that stole his tail. Whenever Tiger Claw's argues with Shredder, he always seems to have a good question and Shredder seems to have a stupid answer. Sounds like he considers quitting the Foot some time soon, like a heel-face turn.

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Old 09-24-2015, 03:51 AM   #31
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Yes people do. How can you forget Tiger Claw? He's been in most of the Foot episodes in season 3. Remember the reason why we care is because we never saw Tiger Claw as a human. If they kill him off somehow, we'll never know who he is and the fact that there's a rival that stole his tail. Whenever Tiger Claw's argues with Shredder, he always seems to have a good question and Shredder seems to have a stupid answer. Sounds like he considers quitting the Foot some time soon, like a Baxter Stockman heel-face turn.
I think part of the reason I keep forgetting about Tiger Claw is that there currently 8 characters who are part of the Foot or at least closely allied with them. Here's the problem, 6 were already well established are part of TMNT lore and Xever was one of the first characters introduced for this series, so already Tiger Claw is the least recognisable.

But the biggest problem might be that he has very little personality to speak of. I can tell you what Xever's personality is, I can tell you what Baxter's personality is, I can tell what Bebop and Rocksteady's personalities are but I'm sure I can really pin Tiger Claw. Look at Bauza's other character on this show, Hun has only had 1 episode of prominence so far but he has a more clear personality and more charisma to boot than Tiger Claw has gotten in 15 or however many episode's he's been in..
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:26 PM   #32
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Does anyone else hate Tigerclaw's jet pack? I think it makes him completely cheesy.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:08 PM   #33
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But the biggest problem might be that he has very little personality to speak of. I can tell you what Xever's personality is, I can tell you what Baxter's personality is, I can tell what Bebop and Rocksteady's personalities are but I'm sure I can really pin Tiger Claw. Look at Bauza's other character on this show, Hun has only had 1 episode of prominence so far but he has a more clear personality and more charisma to boot than Tiger Claw has gotten in 15 or however many episode's he's been in..
Its probably because Tiger Claw isn't paired with anyone. Mutant duos are easily to remember like Bebop/Rocksteady or Rahzar/Fishface.

Tiger Claw has no mutant pair, so he's a one off.
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Does anyone else hate Tigerclaw's jet pack? I think it makes him completely cheesy.
I've heard rumors that Tiger Claw is an homage to Boba Fett, that might be why he has a jetpack. I don't hate the jetpack but I agree it's a little too much.

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Its probably because Tiger Claw isn't paired with anyone. Mutant duos are easily to remember like Bebop/Rocksteady or Rahzar/Fishface.

Tiger Claw has no mutant pair, so he's a one off.
Well the problem with that argument is that a bunch of other characters dont really have partners and I still find them to be more interesting than Tiger Claw.
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:18 AM   #35
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A Tiger Claw vs Shredder fight would be awesome, but Shredder would win. Tiger Claw can barely hang against Splinter and Shredder and Splinter are pretty evenly matched.
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Its probably because Tiger Claw isn't paired with anyone. Mutant duos are easily to remember like Bebop/Rocksteady or Rahzar/Fishface.

Tiger Claw has no mutant pair, so he's a one off.
He doesn't really need to be paired with another mutant. Maybe some interaction between the other mutants would be nice but I think he works better as a lone wolf.

I like the concept of TigerClaw but there's not much to his character besides his doubts towards the Shredder. This show really needs to explore this character. Though since most of season four will focus on space, they probably won't get to his backstory until near the end of this season or most likely season five.

We don't even get much personality or any backstory from Rahzar and this is the most personality he's had. I'm honestly hoping they don't incorporate Tokka for the sake of nostalgia because then that'll add one more character to develop.

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The funny thing is.... you seen the same episodes we have.... you don't know any more or less than the rest of us do. So... unless there's some super rare cancelled/banned/exclusive episode all about Tiger Claw's story... then you pretty much know the answer to your question.
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The funny thing is.... you seen the same episodes we have.... you don't know any more or less than the rest of us do. So... unless there's some super rare cancelled/banned/exclusive episode all about Tiger Claw's story... then you pretty much know the answer to your question.
Unless he thought that he must have forgotten something or there's the chance that Ciro and Brandon already gave away his backstory.
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:11 AM   #39
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Tiger Claw

First off I loved Tiger Claw showing some character in the season finale! He even asked Shredder what he had done at the end. That was cool! I can see Tiger Claw becoming a bigger player and gaining fans if the writers at Nick decide to stick with this side of the character. He would still be a baddie of course but just not a total mindless follower.
Secondly, is Tiger Claw the same character as "Old Hob", from the comics like a remake or something? Or maybe Old Hob is just inspiration for the Tiger Claw character? I'd be interested to hear some of your thoughts!
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Tiger Claw & Old Hob have absolutely nothing to do with each other. TC was Ciro's TMNT OC from childhood that he carried over into the actual series, if memory serves correctly, & OH is someone Kevin & Tom at IDW dreamed up.
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