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10-31-2015, 11:47 AM
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Dragonball Z Movies and One Piece crossover
Some dude suggested a DBZ discussion. I don't know why he didn't make it himself. This is kind of a two for one topic. Did anybody notice how the DBZ movies don't fit into the series timeline? the biggest flaw is when Dende is Earth's guardian in Return of Cooler and Gohan isn't super saiyan yet. Still a good movie but I don't understand why they weren't placed in the timeline. Then you have other movies that are in the timeline, like the first movie Deadzone and the most recent 2 DBZ movies. I think they're all pretty good. Haven't seen Bojack Unbound yet.
Then there's some kind of One Piece crossover where there is a race and the DBZ and One Piece characters participate. I'm not sure why this wasn't dubbed to English yet. |
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10-31-2015, 12:23 PM
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10-31-2015, 12:34 PM
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I wonder where that is in the One Piece timeline...
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10-31-2015, 01:36 PM
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It could be a legal dubbing issue. I didn't think of that. Funimation has the right to dub both series, so I don't know. As far as One Piece's timeline I guess the crossover racing episode is just a for fun kind of thing and doesn't fit in. I guess that's all the DBZ movies are for the most part too. Interesting thing about One Piece is that it seems like it could be endless. If they keep looking for the treasure and never find it then it just goes on and on, which is good.
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10-31-2015, 01:45 PM
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And the treasure exists, but theres a reason why its so hard to find. |
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10-31-2015, 02:16 PM
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I'm on episode 86 of One Piece now. |
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10-31-2015, 03:23 PM
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I wasn't suggesting a DBZ discussion, I'm pretty sure there already are some threads for it anyway.
Goku sure is super, though. |
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10-31-2015, 03:25 PM
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This would be quite fun considering One Piece is heavily inspired by DBZ. Not a big DBZ fan myself, but this can be quite cool if done right.
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10-31-2015, 03:43 PM
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I don't know what episode of One Piece I'm on. Just whatever Adult Swim is showing. Probably my second favorite anime. |
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10-31-2015, 09:39 PM
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Having now watched/read a lot of DB/DBZ (just finished Namek in Kai) the differences are even more apparent to me. Dragonball, at least where I'm at, is incredibly shallow. The characters, the world(s), the "story" is all...just there. Dragonball was sort of a comedy adventure, so it really didn't matter, but it retains the same lack of depth in Z, which does away with Dragonball's silly charm and innocent nature, so all you have left are fights (which so far lack any amount of internal logic) and while it's fun and "cool" it's not all that interesting beyond the surface. There's no meat on that bone. It feels like the world, and at this point the entire universe, is empty but for the few main characters (who aren't dead at the time) and whatever enemy who happens to conveniently show up and be the strongest ever* being in existence. *until Goku beats them In that regard, One Piece is the antithesis of DBZ. It's carried by strong characters and incredible world/story building to the point that the fights almost don't matter. I'll always point to the moment Mihawk shows up in One Piece as the point where Oda not only separates himself from your standard shonen pitfall of the power creep, something DBZ is dreadful at handling, but also opens the world up beyond the bubble of Luffy and the Straw Hats and creates a sense of place that few pieces of fiction do in general, let alone manga/anime. Quote:
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11-01-2015, 02:50 PM
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11-01-2015, 02:51 PM
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11-01-2015, 05:12 PM
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11-01-2015, 05:24 PM
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You've misread the series entirely, which is a thing I think a lot of people do in general. I did it. Thanks to 4Kids more than anything, but yeah, I still did it.
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11-01-2015, 05:43 PM
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