Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

The trailer is expected to play in front of The Force Awakens, chances are the views will go much higher when the general public becomes aware of it.

I got news for ya, it ain't: https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2015/...force-awakens/

Batman v Superman, Captain America: Civil War, Deadpool, Independence Day: Resurgence, Jungle Book, and Warcraft. No BayTurtles in sight.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

I got news for ya, it ain't: https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2015/...force-awakens/

Batman v Superman, Captain America: Civil War, Deadpool, Independence Day: Resurgence, Jungle Book, and Warcraft. No BayTurtles in sight.

Independence Day: Resurgence I'm anticipating, but I'm sure it's trailer will be out early that week.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

The Tarzan trailer has had over 7 million views and it's something that's a much bigger gamble, isn't well-known by younger people and is a franchise that hasn't had a live action movie in quite some time.

The Star Wars trailer has had 69 million views. The Deadpool trailer has had 31 million views and compared to TMNT, Deadpool isn't significantly well-known (ie, I could go to my mother and mention TMNT and she'll know who I'm talking about - if I mention Deadpool, she wouldn't know what I was referencing).

Given how well-known the TMNT franchise is, 10 million views isn't particularly great, IMO.

That's an excellent point you make, one I hadn't really considered.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

we went over this last time youtube trailer views does not mean popular movie

[Shark_Blade]

I think we can say things are going very well for TMNT2.

Andre did a trailer review of it, and it was hilarious.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I think we can say things are going very well for TMNT2.

Speak for yourself, mac.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Ooo someone's mad for no reason. Who cares.

The turtles are back!

Actually, I got plenty of reasons, but I get the feeling that if I told you it go in through one ear and out the other.

But please, do continue to enjoy this "cinematic masterpiece".

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by sdp

I also find funny Leo getting mad because the TMNT hasn't grown up like he has so he'll have to stop liking the franchise. Dude, the name of the franchise is TMNT, unless you like the Mirage comics don't expect anything for you, it was made a world brand by targeting to kids, now it's being targeted to kids and nostalgic adults. Also it's not like WWE has adapted very well either yet you love it.

Three things worth pointing out:

- I've NEVER been a Mirage fan and have been very outspoken about why I don't like it much, particularly the dry, snails-pace writing and the horrible art.

- I've been VERY vocal in my outright hatred of WWE for turning the wrestling business into a kiddie sideshow aimed at simpletons - oh, wait, why does that sound familiar?

- Clearly, you never actually read any of my posts.

If you want to engage me, don't be dumb about it.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

I got news for ya, it ain't: https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2015/...force-awakens/

Batman v Superman, Captain America: Civil War, Deadpool, Independence Day: Resurgence, Jungle Book, and Warcraft. No BayTurtles in sight.

Well every screening won't have the same trailers. In the UK i've been to see the same movie in different cinemas and they have different trailers.

Also the TMNT trailer looks like it's for 3D so they probably releasing the trailer in front of 3D screening of Star Wars.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Andre did a trailer review of it, and it was hilarious.

Andre has never been funny, ever. God that was a chore to watch...I'm glad he thinks he's the funniest person in the world though.

[Diorm]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

The Tarzan trailer has had over 7 million views and it's something that's a much bigger gamble, isn't well-known by younger people and is a franchise that hasn't had a live action movie in quite some time.

The Star Wars trailer has had 69 million views. The Deadpool trailer has had 31 million views and compared to TMNT, Deadpool isn't significantly well-known (ie, I could go to my mother and mention TMNT and she'll know who I'm talking about - if I mention Deadpool, she wouldn't know what I was referencing).

Given how well-known the TMNT franchise is, 10 million views isn't particularly great, IMO.

That doesnt make any sence. The trailer was only up for a couple of days. Not like the star wars or deadpool trailer.

[TigerClaw]

I love the reaction from the guys at IGN as they watch the trailer, They are very excited about it.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/12/11...urtles-trailer

[snake]

Originally Posted by Diorm

That doesnt make any sence. The trailer was only up for a couple of days. Not like the star wars or deadpool trailer.

Not to mention that views mean jack sh*t.

[IronBoomer]

Okay, I'm a few days late to the party, ...but

Damn it, Bay, I want to hate this, but it looks like a lot of good may come out of this. Bebop and Rocksteady look Amazing. Whether the characters actually are good is another story, and Tyler Perry looks like the Baxter straight out of the 80's toon.

Hell, the subtle alterations to the boys look good too...except Donny's suspenders. I mean, really? Did we need to give him another marker from Urkel to make him look more nerdy?

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

See the thing is I'll never agree with that. Practically every single popular superhero got where they are by marketing to kids and had a silly none offensive cartoon on the air at some point. that never stopped thier brands from growing with thier audience. Why should tmnt be the exception. But let's be honest this doesn't have anything to do with kids. The cartoon kids are watching right now is darker and more layered than this movie so it can't be about making things suitable for them. This is platinum dunes trying to capitalize on nostalgia plain and simple. And it's working.

Preach it!

I've actually known some franchises that are hurting by not 'growing up.' By this I don't mean blood and guts and boobs, I mean something where they aren't afraid to mention ugly things or show characters behaving badly, or stories not always getting a happy ending as can happen in real life. So over time the franchises stagnate, because they are often locked within narrow character and story boundaries that are kid-safe, things always kept simple and not too complex, or bright delineation of black and white that make the 'right thing to do' always clear cut.



I think a franchise needs to grow with it's audience is that ultimately, the adults are the ones that keep it alive when children get bored of it and move onto other things. They are the ones that talk about it the most when the toys get thrown out by teens because they are 'kids' stuff' and the ones that buy the tickets and interview the producers, artists and game designers, and they are the ones that write to a show's producers and get involved in telling them that a plot/character isn't working on a show, unlike kids who tend to accept whatever is given.

It's why Batman lasted for so many years, despite being always mainly about a guy who gets the need to dress up as a bat after seeing his parents killed when he was a kid. It's goofy at it's premise (a vigilante in a bat-suit who fights a guy dressed as a clown, along with other assorted weirdos) but it has been handle every which way from goofy to epic, meaning that there pretty much is a 'Batman' for everybody. Batman is not kiddy (or it no longer is) which is why I wonder why TMNT can't follow the same path. Yeah it's goofy at it's premise, but it's no more goofy then a guy running around dressed as a bat.

[IndigoErth]

If they want to make some aimed at the kiddies, then take those junior-age character models they made and used for a very short segment in the first and do a few kid-aimed (but still entertaining to adults) prequels with those little guys. Then leave the big boys (who could pass for their 20s anyhow) for the grown ups. There. Solved it. (And a few adventures with kid Turtles wouldn't even have to worry about adhering to much cannon, if at all.)

Still though, with what we have, I'd rather they make it a good mix of both dark and light in their appropriate moments. Better character depth that way as well, imo, if it shows different sides to them.

[Etsyturtle2]

Originally Posted by IronBoomer

Okay, I'm a few days late to the party, ...but

Damn it, Bay, I want to hate this, but it looks like a lot of good may come out of this. Bebop and Rocksteady look Amazing. Whether the characters actually are good is another story, and Tyler Perry looks like the Baxter straight out of the 80's toon.

Hell, the subtle alterations to the boys look good too...except Donny's suspenders. I mean, really? Did we need to give him another marker from Urkel to make him look more nerdy?

You mean he looks like Baxter out of the 03 toon and comics right? He was white in the 87 show...

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Etsyturtle2

You mean he looks like Baxter out of the 03 toon and comics right? He was white in the 87 show...

Yep, pointless whitewashing. He's black in every version except for the 87 show isn't he?

EDIT: Just looked him up, he's white in the Archie comics too.

[Powder]

Yeah, he's only white in the OT & it's subsequent off-shoots (Not just Archie but the various storybooks & stuff). If it's because they didn't feel it would be right to have a black villain, then why was Bebop black? You've gotta wonder. *shrug*

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Diorm

That doesnt make any sence. The trailer was only up for a couple of days. Not like the star wars or deadpool trailer.

The Tarzan trailer dropped the exact same day that BayTurtles 2 did - literally within a few hours of it. Star Wars and Deadpool trailers were referenced as an example of continuous probability distribution based on presumed interest over a period of time - ie, whether BayTurtles trailer views can be expected to have the same amount of growth between now and its release. I'm actually in complete agreement with snake re trailer views not translating to box office success anyway.

Does that make enough "sence"?