Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

We don't bring that up 'round these parts, ya heard?

You best run, squirrel.

If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. We must make sure everyone knows the crimes of Miller, so that they may NEVER be repeated.

[MikeandRaph87]

I will say this, if Jason Todd is featured in a Batman movie I am not seeing it.
I had written off all the dead Robin stuff as fan theories and rumors. That being said I do prefer Mr. Grayson as the only Robin, but not nmdead. As Nightwing? I have other preferences of course and the poor treatment and directions taken with him when he goes by the code name. I have wanted to see him evet sonce Batman & Robin and if this is the only way...

Also to see the Dick/ Barbara pairring you are right.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I will say this, if Jason Todd is featured in a Batman movie I am not seeing it.
I had written off all the dead Robin stuff as fan theories and rumors. That being said I do prefer Mr. Grayson as the only Robin, but not nmdead. As Nightwing? I have other preferences of course and the poor treatment and directions taken with him when he goes by the code name. I have wanted to see him evet sonce Batman & Robin and if this is the only way...

Also to see the Dick/ Barbara pairring you are right.

Have you seen the BvS trailers? There's a Robin memorial suit defaced by Joker in the Batcave.

Joker killed A Robin, which one do you want it to be?

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. We must make sure everyone knows the crimes of Miller, so that they may NEVER be repeated.

Despite the joke of Strikes Again and what he did to Dick 'Robin' Grayson thamey commissioned him to oversee the joke title All-Star Batman & Robin. Despite the horribleness of it we get a third Daek Knight book and a fourth .ini after that. Now he wants to give Superman The Dark Knight treatment and make Bruce Wayne the villian of still another mini. Its like a musician who has one to two hits, but keeos making music that unnerves people more than celebrate it.

[CyberCubed]

Since Dick would have to be Nightwing in this timeline it would be the best to see him in a good costume.

I don't care if Jason Todd comes back or not, but to not see Nightwing would be a crime. I'm talking about for sequels, not this movie.

[Leo656]

I've heard a rumor that Nightwing might get name-dropped in BvS but he's definitely not physically in it. There's a definite chance he'll be mentioned in either BvS, Suicide Squad, or both, but he's not physically going to appear in either, they're nowhere near that far along with plans for his character.

There's also rumors that Jason may be seen, or at least hinted at, in both movies. Like an Easter Egg where you may not even realize it's him until 2 or 3 movies later when it's explained that it's him once we finally get to see him. Specifically,

Spoiler:

for some reason, a lot of people think it was the Joker who sent Bruce Wayne the "You Let Your 'Family' Die" note, but it may actually be Jason, taunting him. Which would actually make perfect sense and is what I've suspected from the beginning, as I think the Joker would be too obvious. Besides, why would Joker have a vendetta against Bruce Wayne, specifically? I really think Jason is the one behind it.

MikeandRaph, I really have to say, not seeing a Batman movie on account of Jason Todd is the very definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Especially when they're finally, FINALLY doing Batman movies based off the actual comics and not some director's imagination. I probably hate Jason more than you do - mostly because his character worked better dead - but I'm not going to let that stop me from seeing a perfectly good movie, or even several. I can't get behind your logic at all on that one buddy. Like CKD said, it means they'll be able to do Nightwing and maybe even Tim Drake as well. That's good! This opens doors for lots of good things. I'll "suffer" Jason to get Nightwing, gladly.

The best part of the DCEU is that nothing is off the table like it used to be. Everything was always confined to the tiny, limited scope of a director's imagination because the comic book mythology was "too big" and "too intimidating". That's no longer the case, thank God, so I say play ball and have fun with all of it. I'm ecstatic they're actually digging into the real mythology and adapting it instead of just making up their own nonsense like they always used to do. A few tweaks here and there for streamlining, of course, but trimming the fat and leaving the prime cuts doesn't hurt anything. It's still ultra-faithful thematically and in tone and that's what's important.

[Slade]

I'm fine with Jason, Dick, Tim, hell, even Damien.


Just ain't trying to see Carrie Kelly

[Turo602]

A thread about Batman v Superman and all everyone can talk about is how much they like Dick.

[Leo656]

HAH! True story.

EDIT: I was replying to Slade, but holy sh*t, it works even better now.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Turo602

A thread about Batman v Superman and all everyone can talk about is how much they like Dick.

We all know how much people like dick, especially you

[Leo656]

Wow. Totes inappropes.

[Turo602]

He's right though. I'm not afraid to admit it. Dick is definitely my favorite of them all.

[MikeandRaph87]

*shakes head* People and their dirty minds...

I would be up for it all if Dick Grayson before the cinematic universe ends its run becomes Batman since Bruce is a weary veteran crime fighter. That would make it worth while. Its better than John Drake the cop.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Turo602

He's right though. I'm not afraid to admit it. Dick is definitely my favorite of them all.

Plus, in his convictions, he's always stood firm. And he's never been broken, though occasionally he's been bent, sometimes lightly left-leaning.

Indeed, a good Dick is hard to find.

[CyberCubed]

I wish the creators had the foresight to have his name be Richard Grayson as the standard used one, instead of Dick.

Obviously back in the 30's and 40's they didn't realize calling someone "Dick" in the 80's, 90's, and 2000's would have insult or sexual meanings. Its the same reason the original Flintstones theme song has, "We'll have a gay ol' time!" in the lyrics whereas nowadays you'll NEVER see the word "gay" in a children's theme song.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Dick, Jason, Tim, Stephanie, and Damian. Those are my Robins.

Keep Carrie Kelly the heck away from my Batman stories.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I wish the creators had the foresight to have his name be Richard Grayson as the standard used one, instead of Dick.

Obviously back in the 30's and 40's they didn't realize calling someone "Dick" in the 80's, 90's, and 2000's would have insult or sexual meanings. Its the same reason the original Flintstones theme song has, "We'll have a gay ol' time!" in the lyrics whereas nowadays you'll NEVER see the word "gay" in a children's theme song.

Except he is named Richard. Dick is a nickname for Richard, and dick as slang for penis have been around since 1890, so they where aware of it. But it's still a shortening of a name.

Heck, Dick also was a word for police officer, a person (much like Avarge Joe is now) a declaration and many more usages.

[Leo656]

By his logic you can't have a guy named "Peter" or "Buddy" or "Rod", either.

If I ever had a son I'd go right for the jugular and name him C*cksucker Dickballs. Just so there was no pretense about it. "You named your kid THAT? Are you some kinda lunatic?" "Yep."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

By his logic you can't have a guy named "Peter" or "Buddy" or "Rod", either.

If I ever had a son I'd go right for the jugular and name him C*cksucker Dickballs. Just so there was no pretense about it. "You named your kid THAT? Are you some kinda lunatic?" "Yep."

So basically, you're planning to wake up knifed to death one night by your eight-year-old son?

[Leo656]

I was more hoping for a "Boy Named Sue" kind of situation.