Overlooked Characters from Comics

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-30-2015, 02:02 PM

I'm starting this thread to rant about how unfairly overlooked and discarded Evelyn Crawford (code-name Starling) is.

Spoiler:

She's absolutely badass and was the best part of the Birds of Prey run in the New 52, until continued creator changes and left turns in the ongoing narrative forced her character out. Was complete BS.

Ever since, she's dropped off the face of the earth in DC Comics and it galls me so much. Who's your favorite character who's been ill-treated lately in comics?

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-02-2016, 04:58 PM

I've always really liked some of the lesser-known characters in ASM, like Lt. Lamont, Ezekiel, Mr. Negative, and Toxin. Toxin, especially, deserves either his own book, or at least more stories featuring him, as he is easily the most interesting of the symbiote characters.

*Jephael* · 01-02-2016, 09:06 PM

I feel that Jagwar and Dreadmon from Mighty Mutanimals fit in this category.

*ToTheNines* · 01-02-2016, 09:08 PM

Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that.

Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 01-02-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

I feel that Jagwar and Dreadmon from Mighty Mutanimals fit in this category.

That's a really good point. Did they ever even contribute to the team or story in the Archie Mutanimals comics?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 01-02-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that.

Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content...80-625x880.jpg

Is that the girl from Parks & Rec and Safety Not Guaranteed? Totally blanking on her name, but bringing her into the MCU would be pretty amazing.

*ToTheNines* · 01-02-2016, 09:14 PM

Aubrey Plaza, yes. She's perfect for the MCU!

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-02-2016, 09:20 PM

There was a villain called the Spook that was a reoccurring threat in Batman comics. He first appeared in 1973's Detective Comics#434 and made about ten appearances lasting until Detective Comics#526 in 1983. After that decade he appeared in a crowd of villains at Blackgate and then appeared again in late 2003. He was showcased as being released into a halfway house and being rather pathetic caught by Dick and Tim for a mugging unable to adapt to modern villainy. This is a guy who escaped the electric chair with his escape artist gimmick and even convinced Batman he was dead. He was used as a pansy for Grant Morrison who claimed he was not used to his full potential. What did Grant do? He used this character to show how deadly his new creation Damien can be by beheading him. Never seen again(he actually appeared in Scooby Doo Team Up#3 though) having escaped as the great escape artist amongst the villains and never actually becoming a true Spook either. A true threat never shown true potential for decades. He needs a Catman or Calendar Man treatment. Of all the Batman foes this is the one with the greatest potential to be a reoccurring threat once again and be a note worthy villain.

http://www.comicvine.com/spook/4005-34552/images/

*Jephael* · 01-02-2016, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Did they ever even contribute to the team or story in the Archie Mutanimals comics?

In the beginning they certainly did, especially during the storyarc where they had to save Jagwar's mom from Null and the 4 Horsemen. Unfortunately, they didn't get much of a chance to shine as Man Ray and Mondo Gecko took center stage most of the time.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-02-2016, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that.

Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content...80-625x880.jpg

Barton wasn't bungled. He was pretty close to his Bendis-run Avengers role. Maybe a little more Ronin, but definitely in-line with the comics from the early 2000's.

*ToTheNines* · 01-02-2016, 09:31 PM

He's ok, I don't hate him. More than anything, just the wife an kids thing rubbed me the wrong way.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 01-02-2016, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

A true threat never shown true potential for decades. He needs a Catman or Calendar Man treatment. Of all the Batman foes this is the one with the greatest potential to be a reoccurring threat once again and be a note worthy villain.

http://www.comicvine.com/spook/4005-34552/images/

I dunno about the others, but Catman is definitely more badass than you'd think. Love me some Secret Six.

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Aubrey Plaza, yes. She's perfect for the MCU!

Yes, her! Damn, she's awesome.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-03-2016, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

He's ok, I don't hate him. More than anything, just the wife an kids thing rubbed me the wrong way.

I liked it because it actually made him a bit more down to earth than the rest of the team. He felt more grounded that way. As a non powered Avenger should be.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-03-2016, 09:40 AM

It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.

*ToTheNines* · 01-03-2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I liked it because it actually made him a bit more down to earth than the rest of the team. He felt more grounded that way. As a non powered Avenger should be.

It is kinda different, which is cool. Other than Reed and Sue (and even then that's a superhero couple), there aren't many popular heroes that are in a stable relationship with kids during their prime crime fighting years. Probably because that's kinda boring lol.

So I liked their little "Northampton" scene, I thought it worked well, but it was just cheap for them to rearrange Barton's story for the sake of the plot. Even just in the context of the MCU movies and tie in comics before Ultron, he was single up until then.

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It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.

Guy and Kyle should be the main GL's by now, along with Wally as Flash. I guess Johns and whoever else will never let the Silver Age go.

*ZariusTwo* · 01-03-2016, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.

Is it a sin that I find the JL 3000 version of Guy better at the moment?

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-03-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Is it a sin that I find the JL 3000 version of Guy better at the moment?

*TurtleTitan97* · 01-03-2016, 03:16 PM

Bart Allen, Max Mercury, Jesse Quick, and Linda Park. I miss their presence in the Flash books.

And as much as I like Barry, Wally should still have remained the main Flash.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-03-2016, 06:39 PM

You know who has been grossly overlooked for YEARS? Cloak and Dagger. Dazzler. Jubilee. And what about Mirage, Cannonball, and Sunspot? Basically, the entire "New Mutants" team from the 90's, and some of the less-used mutants from the X-books. Granted, Cloak and Dagger aren't actually mutants, but they haven't had a good story in decades! And they were introduced in ASM, so there's another pair from Spidey that I'd like to see more use of.

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-03-2016, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

You know who has been grossly overlooked for YEARS? Cloak and Dagger. Dazzler. Jubilee. And what about Mirage, Cannonball, and Sunspot? Basically, the entire "New Mutants" team from the 90's, and some of the less-used mutants from the X-books. Granted, Cloak and Dagger aren't actually mutants, but they haven't had a good story in decades! And they were introduced in ASM, so there's another pair from Spidey that I'd like to see more use of.

I have to admit I never cared much for them and felt The Rapier should have been Cloak to make it more personal and make Silvermanw rhat more devious.
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...lar_s_93.shtml

What about Eddie Brock/ Venom. It has been since 2004 that the true Venom has been a tive against Spider-Man if not at least an anti-hero. Bring him back, Marvel.

I know its not a character, but the Peter/ Mary Jane marriage is only lookes at for a temporary $ spike.

12-30-2015, 02:02 PM	#1
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Overlooked Characters from Comics I'm starting this thread to rant about how unfairly overlooked and discarded Evelyn Crawford (code-name Starling) is. Spoiler: She's absolutely badass and was the best part of the Birds of Prey run in the New 52, until continued creator changes and left turns in the ongoing narrative forced her character out. Was complete BS. Ever since, she's dropped off the face of the earth in DC Comics and it galls me so much. Who's your favorite character who's been ill-treated lately in comics? __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

01-02-2016, 04:58 PM	#2
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	I've always really liked some of the lesser-known characters in ASM, like Lt. Lamont, Ezekiel, Mr. Negative, and Toxin. Toxin, especially, deserves either his own book, or at least more stories featuring him, as he is easily the most interesting of the symbiote characters. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

01-02-2016, 09:20 PM	#8
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	There was a villain called the Spook that was a reoccurring threat in Batman comics. He first appeared in 1973's Detective Comics#434 and made about ten appearances lasting until Detective Comics#526 in 1983. After that decade he appeared in a crowd of villains at Blackgate and then appeared again in late 2003. He was showcased as being released into a halfway house and being rather pathetic caught by Dick and Tim for a mugging unable to adapt to modern villainy. This is a guy who escaped the electric chair with his escape artist gimmick and even convinced Batman he was dead. He was used as a pansy for Grant Morrison who claimed he was not used to his full potential. What did Grant do? He used this character to show how deadly his new creation Damien can be by beheading him. Never seen again(he actually appeared in Scooby Doo Team Up#3 though) having escaped as the great escape artist amongst the villains and never actually becoming a true Spook either. A true threat never shown true potential for decades. He needs a Catman or Calendar Man treatment. Of all the Batman foes this is the one with the greatest potential to be a reoccurring threat once again and be a note worthy villain. http://www.comicvine.com/spook/4005-34552/images/ __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

01-03-2016, 03:16 PM	#18
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Bart Allen, Max Mercury, Jesse Quick, and Linda Park. I miss their presence in the Flash books. And as much as I like Barry, Wally should still have remained the main Flash. __________________

01-03-2016, 06:39 PM	#19
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	You know who has been grossly overlooked for YEARS? Cloak and Dagger. Dazzler. Jubilee. And what about Mirage, Cannonball, and Sunspot? Basically, the entire "New Mutants" team from the 90's, and some of the less-used mutants from the X-books. Granted, Cloak and Dagger aren't actually mutants, but they haven't had a good story in decades! And they were introduced in ASM, so there's another pair from Spidey that I'd like to see more use of. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

01-02-2016, 09:06 PM	#3
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I feel that Jagwar and Dreadmon from Mighty Mutanimals fit in this category. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

01-02-2016, 09:08 PM	#4
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that. Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

01-02-2016, 09:14 PM	#7
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	Aubrey Plaza, yes. She's perfect for the MCU!

01-02-2016, 09:31 PM	#11
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	He's ok, I don't hate him. More than anything, just the wife an kids thing rubbed me the wrong way.

01-03-2016, 09:40 AM	#14
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.