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Well Sam And Cat wasn't exactly for the same target audience. Nick's TMNT is targeted towards 5-10 year old boys. Whereas S&C's target audience was preteen/teenage boys AND girls. Also, new episodes of S&C aired in prime time, while the new TMNT episodes air on Sunday mornings.
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It is because there are a lot more peolle nowdays who watch shows online on their pc than on TV. Thanks to the internet we dont need to watch it at the timre it plays on tv. When 2003 and 1987 shows aired you couldnt find the episodes on the internet. Nowdays evry new episode of a show(any show not just TMNT) can be watched for free on the internet at the same day that it plays on TV. I am sure Nick cares more about the sales of episodes on Itunes than the ratings on TV. That because they dont make any money from high ratings/people who watch it on tv but they make lot of money from the people who buy it from Itunes. Do you understand it? It is and will always be the best action adventure show ever. Nothing can beat tmnt
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Again, the ratings actually went down -- and fairly significantly -- when the last movie came out. Whether that's coincidence or not, I'm not sure... but it's a pretty fair indicator that new movies won't help.
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Good question. But you have to remember that most people regularly watching TMNT aren't kids. It's adults and young adults and that means a lot of them are busy. Me, personally, have just enough time to see the ep before I have to head out...some people, not so much. That's where streaming and watching online come from. Like Vicky pointed out, ITunes is a big one that people use. Where as with that Sam and Cat thing- the people who watch that regularly are 13 and younger...most 13 and under kids don't say 'darn I'm so busy today I'll just stream or catch it on ITunes'. So, those shows get those views. But, anyway...the show's sucess- like a bunch of cartoons- relies heavily on toy sales rather that views. Heh..oops, didn't realize this was basically already covered. Sorry, folks |
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Would you guys say that there are more adults watching the Nick series more than kids, despite how many kids have the merchandise for it?
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Not remotely.
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I think a lot of you forget how quickly kids interest in shows fade. The Nick show started in 2012...its now 2016. A kid who was 10 in 2012 is now 14 years old...a teenager. He's in the phase where cartoons are "uncool" and wants to grow up.
A kid who was 8 back in 2012 is now 12 years old in 2016. Maybe the 12 year old doesn't want to watch cartoons anymore. Some of you forget how quickly kids tastes change and how quickly they grow up nowadays. Likewise most kids today are distracted by social media, minecraft, youtube, etc....that our generation didn't have when we were younger. |
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Are we forgetting that ratings for kids' animation in general is dropping? Imagine the gradual decline seen on this show, but for almost every other show (the same trend applies to Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, the sort). This is mostly either due to children "growing up" and none that take their place because they feel "grown up" already (highly unlikely), or most people watch them digitally/illegally.
That's pretty much the case for every animated kids' show right now, and TMNT isn't the exception. Teen Titans Go is the only exception as far as I know.
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I'm imagining like an army of millions of 9 year olds getting on Pirate Bay and torrenting episodes of Nickelodeon TMNT... and it being completely ridiculous. Because that's not happening.
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Most kids shows are easily found just by typing it into google. We're not in 2005 anymore, every TV show is on the internet streaming. You don't even need to torrent anymore.
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There is an army of pitates that torrenting all tv shows. It dosent matter if most of hem are kids or adults but there are many people who prefer to download a episode from pirate bay and watch it any time they wat than to watch it when it airs on tv.
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Nick f*cked up with the constant breaks, sh*t advertising, and no one knowing when the show is on. Not to mention not even increasing the budget as the show went along.
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Except most of what that guy says isn't true. There are no forgotten plots. Karai isn't forgotten about. Its almost like some people don't get the concept of recurring villains, they don't have to be in every single episode.
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Outside of that, The nostalgia window is closing. I think people are sick of re-treads in general, tbh. |
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I still feel that the inconsistent times and the breaks have a lot to do with it, along with the fact that people view a lot of media online these days, where ratings aren't accounted for.
I know I mentioned this before. Didn't you all say that sometimes they would change the time of the program or when it goes into a break, they don't just air the 2k12 show in that slot? To me that's just unusual. I used Rugrats as an example before. Back then, during its first run, Rugrats was "canceled", so to speak, and they just constantly played reruns. During its hiatus, it garnered its popularity, hence new eps were made. Even though Rugrats didn't have any new episodes at that time, it still kept its primary time slot. I knew that if I tuned in on that day at that time, Rugrats would be on, regardless if it was a rerun or not. I don't think this show does that (you guys have to tell me). One time you guys said they pre-empted this show for frickin' Full House! Geez.... How can people tune in for the show if it's not shown at a consistent time all the time or every week? I know for me, if I was watching this show (or any show) as a kid, and they kept changing up how it was shown, I would just stop watching due to forgetting when it comes on since it changes and isn't consistent. The show also isn't promoted much, right? You guys have to inform me of this one. If it's not being properly promoted, how can people tune in to watch it? Other problem...many people can just watch the show (along with other things) online now. It's not like how it was years ago where your only choice was to either watch it when it aired or just hope for a rerun of what you missed on TV. Other issue...people are losing interest, but that goes for any show over a course of time, but I feel that a lot of factors aid to why this show's ratings have dropped. |
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If nostalgia really is the issue then why not create new characters and new storylines instead of reusing old ones, like they created Dogpound and Fishface and they were new and cool (then they mutated Dogpound but that's not the point).
Also random place to point this out but did anyone realize that Mr. Murakami is a reference to the Murakami - Wolf - Swenson thing?
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