Anyone else been ROYALLY disappointed with Season 4 thus far? - Page 4

*TurtleTitan97* · 04-14-2016, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

Seems to me that they did something right, something that Nickelodeon desperately wishes that they could duplicate.

Pretty sure there some people on here who would disagree with that, but whateves.

*Ninturtle* · 04-14-2016, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

And yet here we are, a community that still loves discussing the show nearly 20 years since its final episode aired. Seems to me that they did something right, something that Nickelodeon desperately wishes that they could duplicate.

It's one of the most popular cartoons during the 80s, people onky talk about it because they're blinded by nostalgia. Most hard core fans recognize that it's not that good even if they srill enjoy it because of the nostalgic memories they have.

*Ninjinister* · 04-14-2016, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

And yet here we are, a community that still loves discussing the show nearly 20 years since its final episode aired. Seems to me that they did something right, something that Nickelodeon desperately wishes that they could duplicate.

How would anybody be able to know that until 20 years after this series airs...?

*Papenbrook* · 04-14-2016, 08:19 PM

I have been ROYALLY disappointed with season four as of late.

From episode to episode, the story arc is constantly changing its tone. As a result, it feels inconsistent and often convoluted. It's so frustrating for me, because the arc is supposed to take up half the season. If it were up to me, the space arc would have been written out entirely.

That's how disappointed I am.

*Autbot_Benz* · 04-14-2016, 08:30 PM

I love Season 4 because they got David Tennant to be fugitoid and Ron Perlman to be armaggon. two of my all time favorite actors. The Space Arc is a nice change up from the always being on earth fighting shredder and the random mutants of New York.

*CyberCubed* · 04-14-2016, 10:01 PM

I really think its about time this thread was locked.

Fishface · 04-16-2016, 02:25 AM

The reasons I don't like Season 4 so far is that there is very little plot other than the fact that they re trying to get the pieces of the bhg (stands for Black Hole Generator) but there is so little progress with all these random fillers and the, taking several episodes just to get one of three pieces! And then the Triceratons take it away and it just feels like that all the progress has been wasted! I reckon they should have had a Battle Nexus Tornament for 4 episodes instead of episodes like The Weird World of Wrym, The Journey to the Centre of Mikey's Mind, The Cosmic Ocean and The Evil of Dregg! Those episodes just felt pointless! Another disappointing thing is that the relationship of Mona Lisa and Raphael just seems rushed! I don't hate it but it really seems like they are just doing it to please the fan girls! They really need to work on it a bit better! It would have been better if Dregg was in more episodes and did more evil, then he would be a powerful villain but he just seems to generic at this stage! Armaggon is okay as he is Lord Dregg's Right Hand Man but also a powerful fighter! I wonder if he will meet Shredder? Fugitoid is actually a character I enjoy and Mikey has not been as annoying as he was in Season 1 and 2! There are things I like about the space ark but they have to go back to New York soon! April and Casey have just been annoying in this season! Casey needs to go back to fighting Hun! Also Splinter needs to be back and fighting as he usually does. The other thing I don't like so far is the stories! They are just boring generic episodes now. Sure they have some good episodes like The Riddle of the Ancient Aeons, The Arena of Carnage, Tran-Dimensional Turtles and The Revenge of the Triceratons, but a lot of the episodes are not as interesting as those back in 2013 and 2014. I know it is a bit hard to create similar stories to those back in Series 1 and 2 because it is now in space and not New York but it could be a little better.

*CyberCubed* · 04-16-2016, 02:28 AM

The Cosmic Ocean was an excellent episode, what are you talking about? None of the episodes with Dregg or Armaggon are "filler" since they're the main antagonists other than the Triceratons.

The only real fillers are the ones about Wyrm, etc.

Fishface · 04-16-2016, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Cosmic Ocean was an excellent episode, what are you talking about? None of the episodes with Dregg or Armaggon are "filler" since they're the main antagonists other than the Triceratons.

The only real fillers are the ones about Wyrm, etc.

I don't know! I just didn't like The Cosmic Ocean. It wasn't the worst episode but it just was not my cup of tea. I know people liked it and I can understand that but I just never really enjoyed it. The Evil of Dregg felt like filler to me as it really didn't advance to the plot or anything. I wish that they could of had a big battle with Dregg, Armaggona and the Vreen soldiers to show how "evil" they were but it wasn't really a great episode. If you enjoyed the episode, great. But IMO, I just didn't enjoy it.

*CyberCubed* · 04-16-2016, 02:34 AM

You say you want unique plots, yet all these space eps have unique plots. I'm kinda confused what you're getting at? There are different things happening in every episode, and this kind of stuff can't be done back in NYC of course without the alien worlds or spaceship travel, etc.

What were we getting back in NYC? Mostly mutant of the week episodes inbetween the big Shredder episodes. So what's the difference?

Fishface · 04-16-2016, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You say you want unique plots, yet all these space eps have unique plots. I'm kinda confused what you're getting at? There are different things happening in every episode, and this kind of stuff can't be done back in NYC of course without the alien worlds or spaceship travel, etc.

What were we getting back in NYC? Mostly mutant of the week episodes inbetween the big Shredder episodes. So what's the difference?

It is just the plots are not as interesting as they were and it's probably to do with the fact that it's in space. I don't HATE the Space arc but it could be a little better. I didn't mind Mutant of the Week but you are right. It is getting a bit old.

*Hero* · 04-16-2016, 04:48 AM

I've really enjoyed this season a lot! I am left wondering how Season 5 is going to top this.

*Powder* · 04-16-2016, 09:35 AM

It'll be better thematically right off the bat 'cause mysticism > outer space

*CyberCubed* · 04-16-2016, 11:58 AM

I'm willing to bet when Season 5 starts you'll see people saying, "Anyone disappointed with this mystical European arc?" just like they did with the space arc and northampton arc.

People don't know what they want.

Technogeek29 · 04-16-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

It'll be better thematically right off the bat 'cause mysticism > outer space

*high five*

Nice someone else likes puns here.

*ToTheNines* · 04-16-2016, 01:44 PM

I... see no pun.

*Ninturtle* · 04-16-2016, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm willing to bet when Season 5 starts you'll see people saying, "Anyone disappointed with this mystical European arc?" just like they did with the space arc and northampton arc.

People don't know what they want.

No one is complaining about the idea of a space arc just the execution, people want the show to be executed well.

*CyberCubed* · 04-16-2016, 01:57 PM

Aside from the Mona Lisa shipping, I've yet to see anyone provide any real reason why the space arc hasn't been executed well. People keep claiming "fillers" yet there were only like 2-3 real fillers at most, like the Wyrm ep, maybe the Bellybomb ep, etc. and they weren't bad eps at all.

*Metalwolf* · 04-16-2016, 01:58 PM

I was thinking, maybe it might have been better if they simply tied the space arc with searching for April's mom instead of time travel. That way all of those episodes would feel like they have a point instead of something that might feel like it's only set to be undone once they have all of those HoD pieces.

They come across the Utroms while searching for April's mom. They piss off the Triceraton Empire while searching for April's mom. And they have some of their (not all, since not all seem that good) zany adventures whilst searching for April's mom.

Not a time travel arc that will feel pointless once they get the final piece and possibly undo whatever transpired within the last 6 months.

*Vicky82* · 04-16-2016, 02:03 PM

The only Filler Episode was the WYRM episode, Journey to Mikey's mind was fillerish but still had connection to main arc.

04-14-2016, 08:19 PM	#64
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	I have been ROYALLY disappointed with season four as of late. From episode to episode, the story arc is constantly changing its tone. As a result, it feels inconsistent and often convoluted. It's so frustrating for me, because the arc is supposed to take up half the season. If it were up to me, the space arc would have been written out entirely. That's how disappointed I am. Last edited by Papenbrook; 04-14-2016 at 09:27 PM.

04-14-2016, 08:30 PM	#65
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,191	I love Season 4 because they got David Tennant to be fugitoid and Ron Perlman to be armaggon. two of my all time favorite actors. The Space Arc is a nice change up from the always being on earth fighting shredder and the random mutants of New York. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

04-16-2016, 04:48 AM	#72
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	I've really enjoyed this season a lot! I am left wondering how Season 5 is going to top this. __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

04-16-2016, 02:03 PM	#80
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	The only Filler Episode was the WYRM episode, Journey to Mikey's mind was fillerish but still had connection to main arc. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

04-14-2016, 10:01 PM	#66
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I really think its about time this thread was locked.

04-16-2016, 02:25 AM	#67
Fishface Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 177	The reasons I don't like Season 4 so far is that there is very little plot other than the fact that they re trying to get the pieces of the bhg (stands for Black Hole Generator) but there is so little progress with all these random fillers and the, taking several episodes just to get one of three pieces! And then the Triceratons take it away and it just feels like that all the progress has been wasted! I reckon they should have had a Battle Nexus Tornament for 4 episodes instead of episodes like The Weird World of Wrym, The Journey to the Centre of Mikey's Mind, The Cosmic Ocean and The Evil of Dregg! Those episodes just felt pointless! Another disappointing thing is that the relationship of Mona Lisa and Raphael just seems rushed! I don't hate it but it really seems like they are just doing it to please the fan girls! They really need to work on it a bit better! It would have been better if Dregg was in more episodes and did more evil, then he would be a powerful villain but he just seems to generic at this stage! Armaggon is okay as he is Lord Dregg's Right Hand Man but also a powerful fighter! I wonder if he will meet Shredder? Fugitoid is actually a character I enjoy and Mikey has not been as annoying as he was in Season 1 and 2! There are things I like about the space ark but they have to go back to New York soon! April and Casey have just been annoying in this season! Casey needs to go back to fighting Hun! Also Splinter needs to be back and fighting as he usually does. The other thing I don't like so far is the stories! They are just boring generic episodes now. Sure they have some good episodes like The Riddle of the Ancient Aeons, The Arena of Carnage, Tran-Dimensional Turtles and The Revenge of the Triceratons, but a lot of the episodes are not as interesting as those back in 2013 and 2014. I know it is a bit hard to create similar stories to those back in Series 1 and 2 because it is now in space and not New York but it could be a little better.

04-16-2016, 02:28 AM	#68
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	The Cosmic Ocean was an excellent episode, what are you talking about? None of the episodes with Dregg or Armaggon are "filler" since they're the main antagonists other than the Triceratons. The only real fillers are the ones about Wyrm, etc.

04-16-2016, 02:34 AM	#70
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	You say you want unique plots, yet all these space eps have unique plots. I'm kinda confused what you're getting at? There are different things happening in every episode, and this kind of stuff can't be done back in NYC of course without the alien worlds or spaceship travel, etc. What were we getting back in NYC? Mostly mutant of the week episodes inbetween the big Shredder episodes. So what's the difference?

04-16-2016, 09:35 AM	#73
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	It'll be better thematically right off the bat 'cause mysticism > outer space

04-16-2016, 11:58 AM	#74
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I'm willing to bet when Season 5 starts you'll see people saying, "Anyone disappointed with this mystical European arc?" just like they did with the space arc and northampton arc. People don't know what they want.

04-16-2016, 01:44 PM	#76
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,364	I... see no pun.

04-16-2016, 01:57 PM	#78
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Aside from the Mona Lisa shipping, I've yet to see anyone provide any real reason why the space arc hasn't been executed well. People keep claiming "fillers" yet there were only like 2-3 real fillers at most, like the Wyrm ep, maybe the Bellybomb ep, etc. and they weren't bad eps at all.

04-16-2016, 01:58 PM	#79
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	I was thinking, maybe it might have been better if they simply tied the space arc with searching for April's mom instead of time travel. That way all of those episodes would feel like they have a point instead of something that might feel like it's only set to be undone once they have all of those HoD pieces. They come across the Utroms while searching for April's mom. They piss off the Triceraton Empire while searching for April's mom. And they have some of their (not all, since not all seem that good) zany adventures whilst searching for April's mom. Not a time travel arc that will feel pointless once they get the final piece and possibly undo whatever transpired within the last 6 months.