Sinking ratings, is nostalgia not working?

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by neatoman

I wonder how certain bible passages would turn out if you replaced "God" with "Krang"...

Originally Posted by Powder

I'd read that.

I can't seem to find anything that would beat this one.

Spoiler:

1 John 3:2 - Beloved, we are Krang's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears [1] we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.

[Wolfie65]

Almost all TV series decline, often rather sharply, after season 1 - provided they even make it that far.
As much as it pains me to say this, the quality has been slipping since Showdown in Dimension X, they've forgotten about a lot of the Ninja stuff, there are WAY too many mutants, Earth gets blown up, invaded, slimed, swallowed whole WAY too often - kinda reminds me of some wargaming friends who feel the need to re-fight Waterloo or Helm's Deep every single weekend - there are only so many times you can watch Mikey get swung by around by his very own nunchucks by some bad guy (is he or isn't he a Ninja ?), and on it goes.

Too bad, because never before have the Turtles been more true to their Teenage Mutant Ninja selves, the story lines in seasons 1 & 2 were good to brilliant, the animation is great (and I say this despite NOT being a CG fan), maybe there's been some change in staff from season 2 to season 3 that shouldn't have happened.

[CyberCubed]

The show always had a lot of mutants from day 1, the whole point of this show is mutants.

If you want to see the Turtles fight many human enemies watch the 2k3 series, or read the Mirage and IDW comics. Sure there's still aliens/mutants/monsters in those series too, but the main enemies are the human Foot.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

I can't recall any such letter to the Swedish letters column of the Archie Comics.

I did read that once in a copy I found in a second hand store, there were two questions regarding Krang that I can remember. One was "how old is Krang" and the other was "how did Krang meet Shredder", the answers given were "really old" and "you won't find that out".

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by neatoman

I did read that once in a copy I found in a second hand store, there were two questions regarding Krang that I can remember. One was "how old is Krang" and the other was "how did Krang meet Shredder", the answers given were "really old" and "you won't find that out".

Yes, there was a letter column called Pizzatajm med... (usually Splinter!) but I menat I never saw any Christian complaints.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Yes, there was a letter column called Pizzatajm med... (usually Splinter!) but I menat I never saw any Christian complaints.

That's not very likely to happen here, not even in the early 90's.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by neatoman

That's not very likely to happen here, not even in the early 90's.

It would probably take just one angry parent, who knows it maybe never got published. Back in the 1950's and 60's the Swedish Pentecostal Movement said going to cinema was a sin, go out partner dancing was a sin, drinking a glass of wine was sin, girls and women using cosmetics or wearing trousers and short skirts was a sin. Rock music with Elvis Presley was a sin.

In general, these times are gone yes but hard rock and heavy metal got several complaints during the 1970's, 80's and early 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA_rOS3U15I

Ever heard of this blog:

http://www.apg29.nu/

(it's main purposes seems sometimes to be attacking the Romcan Catholic Church but for example, there has been complaints over Star Wars)

But it's nothing compared to this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05bRVvgAGXM

Laestadianism still follows this and it's not easy to imagine this movement in theory exists within the Church of Sweden:

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/i-vantan-pa-naden/

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

It would probably take just one angry parent, who knows it maybe never got published. Back in the 1950's and 60's the Swedish Pentecostal Movement said going to cinema was a sin, go out partner dancing was a sin, drinking a glass of wine was sin, girls and women using cosmetics or wearing trousers and short skirts was a sin. Rock music with Elvis Presley was a sin.

In general, these times are gone yes but hard rock and heavy metal got several complaints during the 1970's, 80's and early 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA_rOS3U15I

Ever heard of this blog:

http://www.apg29.nu/

(it's main purposes seems sometimes to be attacking the Romcan Catholic Church but for example, there has been complaints over Star Wars)

But it's nothing compared to this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05bRVvgAGXM

Laestadianism still follows this and it's not easy to imagine this movement in theory exists within the Church of Sweden:

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/i-vantan-pa-naden/

There are also religious protesters who stand outside anime and pop culture conventions saying our imagination are a sin and will lead us on a one way ticket to hell.

[The Deadman]

Since the ratings are sinking i guess i'll marathon the entire series on one of the websites that has the entire series up and for free. Oh, people dont do that nowadays? Oops.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

There are also religious protesters who stand outside anime and pop culture conventions saying our imagination are a sin and will lead us on a one way ticket to hell.

Like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy-mwtyj1s0

[neatoman]

Well it's understandable why fundies are like this, other religions and secular interests are seen as a threat that could dimish their own religion's relevance. Just be thankful they're not stoning people...

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by AnarkyLantern

RE: the Christian thing. When the original show was on, I spent summers near my grandma's place in Florida and there was this tv ad I saw there once warning against "Asian themes" in cartoons- complete with audio from Tmnt.

I was raised Pentecostal; TMNT was okay since they "helped people." It was Power Rangers and Pokemon that I was forbidden from viewing.

Originally Posted by ABrown

Unfortunately, that's true. The quality is the same as its always been.

This show has never really grabbed me. I loved 2k3's maturity, but I'd aged out of the demographic for 2k12 long before the pilot even aired. All I see is juvenile storylines and hyperactive plots that never really go anywhere. It reminded me of some of the worst episodes of Teen Titans.

If it gets cancelled and goes away, maybe it'll give the franchise more breathing room, given the new film. Hopefully the nostalgia trend moves towards 2k3 long enough to get a decent DVD re-release.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

I was raised Pentecostal; TMNT was okay since they "helped people." It was Power Rangers and Pokemon that I was forbidden from viewing.

Don't the Power Rangers help people?

This is an interesting topic, worth its own thread.

[LS Animation]

Originally Posted by Groverman62

This show is sinking in ratings because its just not really good anymore.

This. The writing deteriorated. I've been recently re-watching season 1 and 2 episodes of the show and they are so much more exciting than what the season 4 has offered so far.

[Wolfie65]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The show always had a lot of mutants from day 1, the whole point of this show is mutants.

If you want to see the Turtles fight many human enemies watch the 2k3 series, or read the Mirage and IDW comics. Sure there's still aliens/mutants/monsters in those series too, but the main enemies are the human Foot.

I was never too crazy about that one, the animation is almost amateurish, there's pretty much zero character development or actual differences between the Turtles - even less than in the Fred Wolf series - there's nothing particularly turtle-y, teenage or Ninja about them, they're basically just 4 generic super heroes in green.
4 trash-talkin' Yo!bros, complete with typical 1990's/00's forced Political Correctness applied with a trowel.
Arthur with swords and guns.

[snake]

I don't know what kind of parents you guys are talkig about because most don't care honestly. You don't see these "pokemon is evil" type on the news or anything anymore

[Vegita-San]

this is the first turtles show I just never really got into.

I've even rewatched next mutation a bit when it was first run.


This series...there is just something about it that feels...phony... for lack of a better explanation. There's maybe 4 episodes that I feel the need to rewatch every now and then just for fun. the rest, are only one and dones.

the first few seasons came off as weird and boring to me. also discombobulated. this season 4 space arc is the first one where it feels they finally got their act together, and the first one I truly enjoyed.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

I was never too crazy about that one, the animation is almost amateurish, there's pretty much zero character development or actual differences between the Turtles - even less than in the Fred Wolf series - there's nothing particularly turtle-y, teenage or Ninja about them, they're basically just 4 generic super heroes in green.
4 trash-talkin' Yo!bros, complete with typical 1990's/00's forced Political Correctness applied with a trowel.
Arthur with swords and guns.

LOL, what? The 2k3 Turtles have very distinct personalities and the same development as any other series.

Also how in the world can you call the animation "amateurish?" The 2k3 series is still one of the best looking 2D animated shows of the 2000's. What are you talking about?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

I was never too crazy about that one, the animation is almost amateurish, there's pretty much zero character development or actual differences between the Turtles - even less than in the Fred Wolf series - there's nothing particularly turtle-y, teenage or Ninja about them, they're basically just 4 generic super heroes in green.
4 trash-talkin' Yo!bros, complete with typical 1990's/00's forced Political Correctness applied with a trowel.
Arthur with swords and guns.

Are you trolling? Either that or you can't have watched more than five episodes.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Are you trolling?

He'd have to be, considering this is what his average post looks like:

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

The bright side: The worse the movie blows, the sooner it gets to DVD, the sooner I can add another Megan Fox flick to my collection.
It cannot possibly be lamer than Crimes of Fashion and Megs looks pretty good in that one, too.