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Old 05-18-2016, 08:11 PM   #701
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Ramon and Snow's acting made my day. I definitely liked how Cisco repeated the things Reverb said to him during their encounter.

Jay took things to a different level, I like that. That guy never ceases to amaze me.
Now, I don't even know who to pick as the better villain " Reverse Flash or Zoom".
One just doesn't know how far Jay will go.
I can't wait for the season finale.
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:13 PM   #702
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Honestly, I'm not thrilled at all that Jay Garrick will be Earth-2 Henry Allen. Basically, all of the Earth-2 secret identities have pissed me off this season.

Jay not being Jay but being this weird retconned Zolomon, and now Jay being Henry because we need more Barry emotional drama...

I think it's all been pretty sloppy, frankly.
Watch you be incorrect. XD
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:32 AM   #703
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Watch you be incorrect. XD
This late in the season? The odds of my theory being wrong are pretty slim... but we shall see.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:37 AM   #704
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That was a GREAT episode. Loved it, can't wait to see where we go from here.

And ever since "Garrick? Huh that's my mom's maiden name" and "I'm not going anywhere", the rest of the season was spelled out.
  • Yep, Henry died in this episode.
  • And yep, he's gonna be the Man in the Metal Mask.
  • And yep, he's the genuine legit Earth-2 Jay Garrick.
Pretty much. It's a bit stupid to me though. Everyone else has had an exact double, with their actual name. So why would Henry from Earth 1 be Jay Garrick on Earth 2? That honestly doesn't make any sense.


Oh, I know why. Just so they can have the original Flash played by...the original Flash.
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Old 05-20-2016, 05:36 AM   #705
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But, nothing ever suggests that there was a flash on earth 2. It was Zalomon's doing all along.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:43 AM   #706
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Pretty much. It's a bit stupid to me though. Everyone else has had an exact double, with their actual name. So why would Henry from Earth 1 be Jay Garrick on Earth 2? That honestly doesn't make any sense.


Oh, I know why. Just so they can have the original Flash played by...the original Flash.
Exactly. It's a neat idea, but complete bull and nonsensical.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:23 AM   #707
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But, nothing ever suggests that there was a flash on earth 2. It was Zalomon's doing all along.
I don't buy that. How would Zolomon even know what the Flash is? He couldn't have gotten it from spying on Barry. Wells knew of the Flash on earth 2. He had to have been pretending to be Jay for a while before the singularity.
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I don't buy that. How would Zolomon even know what the Flash is? He couldn't have gotten it from spying on Barry. Wells knew of the Flash on earth 2. He had to have been pretending to be Jay for a while before the singularity.
Again, exactly. Also, Jay Garrick is way too unique of a name for a made-up alias. Zoom is impersonating and replaced the real Jay Garrick, the original Earth-2 Flash.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:11 PM   #710
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HOLY CRUD

Spoiler:
-Zoom became The Black Flash

-Jay Garrick is Henry Allen's doppelganger

-Barry's time remnant's death was just like how Barry died in Crisis on Infinite Earths

-Barry just committed Flashpoint!!!
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:00 AM   #711
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See, Guggenheim, THAT'S how you do a finale to make viewers hyped for next season.

This cliffhanger is gonna kill me, though. It's gonna be a long summer...
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:15 AM   #712
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This show is great.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:24 AM   #713
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I've got way to much to say about this, so I'm just going to wait for a bit.



Not happy though..
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:38 AM   #714
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Question is, does Arrow's finale matter at all anymore?

And maybe this is how they explain Supergirl being in the same universe
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That was amazing. AMAZING. My wife and I both couldn't stop talking about it last night.

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I actually squeaked with joy: "Flashpoint!!!"
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:37 AM   #716
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This episode really surprised me. For one thing, I thought Wally, Jesse, and Barry (and possibly the real Jay) would all team up against Zoom. That was my theory for pretty much the entire season.

Instead, this episode skillfully wove in elements from previous shows that I had no idea would be used in this way... Time Wraiths, holograms, Time Remnants, etc.

And the reveal of the Man in the Metal Mask, a moment many showrunners would've done with fanfare and easter-egg squealing, was instead a sombre emotional sucker punch.

And, of course, the cliffhanger... moving to spoiler tags to discuss.
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After all the work this season put into Jesse Quick and Wally West and NOT seeing them manifest their speedster abilities, it seems likely that the Flashpoint Paradox will be undone somewhat quickly... otherwise, there really wasn't any point to Jesse's character.

So what things will be permanently changed by Flashpoint and the undoing of Flashpoint? Will Caitlin have ice powers? Will Laurel and/or Snart have been resurrected and returned to their rightful places in the timeline?

Besides, we know Season 3 will more than likely feature Grodd as a major antagonist. Man, so many cool things are going to happen next season! All we need to do is keep the current showrunners and keep the blunder twins Guggenheim and Mericle the fvck AWAY from The Flash.

Season 3 hype: Gorilla Grodd and Gorilla City; Wally West, Jay Garrick, and Jesse Quick as speedsters; Earth-3; Flashpoint Paradox, with more Eobard Thawne; maybe Mirror Master and the Rogues fully assembled?
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:59 PM   #717
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Wow, just wow. That was just well done. Those time remnants were cool. Yeah, I hope we get to see more of Wells, and Jesse. They were good members of the team. The original Jay Garrick thing was cool, I just think he was fat a little bit, I mean if you're a speedster and run all day, you have to be fit, oh well.
Barry, running back in time to save his mom was great, I guess Nora Allen will be back on season 3, I just can't wait. I just did not get why Barry saw himsel and acted surprised, could someone tell me why? Was it his past self that failed to save Nora or was it just a memory?
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I just did not get why Barry saw himsel and acted surprised, could someone tell me why? Was it his past self that failed to save Nora or was it just a memory?
It was the past Barry from the season 1 finale that faded out of existence.
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Old 05-26-2016, 03:30 PM   #719
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Remember my point on No flash ever on earth2 ? I was right
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Old 05-31-2016, 02:25 PM   #720
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Does anyone else think that Wally West will become the flash in season 3, and Barry Allen might just be a member of the team or worse become an evil speedster?
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