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Old 05-25-2016, 11:57 AM   #81
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They retail for $100 at SDCC, so yeah you kinda implied such a thing. Scalper or not, a re-seller wants profit for their effort. Measly $20, better to keep them.
I see what your saying, but from the buyers point of view, you have to ask yourself are they worth $200-$300 for each set?

I am willing to pay a little over the odds, but not much, and it's even worse for me since I would have to pay higher shipping and import, on top of inflated prices
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:28 PM   #82
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It requires little effort if you are going to SDCC and think to yourself, "Ill buy a couple of NECAs while I am there".

It's more than a "little effort". If you've not preordered, then you'll have to stand in a queue for several hours, with no guarantee that you'll actually get the item you want.

FWIW, I've bought a few SDCC exclusives in the $100 range over the last few years (granted, none of those were as hot as the TMNT sets look like being). Once you've factored in the exchange rate, shipping and import duty fees, you're going to be paying a minimum of £150 - and that's if you can get them at cost price.
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:36 PM   #83
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I am willing to pay a little over the odds, but not much, and it's even worse for me since I would have to pay higher shipping and import, on top of inflated prices
Sure, I can see that as I live in Norway which is one of the most expensive countries coming to shipping and importing, and we just had a new custom reform making it even more expensive.

But, that's not the sellers concern though. They don't see any of that cash, and they can only get 2 of each set.

Some on eBay sells the Turtle pack for $185, which ain't bad all things considered.
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Awww c'mon. 100 per pack at SDCC and 180+ each already on ebay preorder? Something is definately way over the limit, seriously, leaving aside the factor of non-US citizens. Brutal, that's how I see it and definately not cool a single bit.

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Old 05-25-2016, 02:11 PM   #85
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Sure, I can see that as I live in Norway which is one of the most expensive countries coming to shipping and importing, and we just had a new custom reform making it even more expensive.

But, that's not the sellers concern though. They don't see any of that cash, and they can only get 2 of each set.

Some on eBay sells the Turtle pack for $185, which ain't bad all things considered.
I feel your pain, I bet they will be a lot cheaper after CC. If you choose to get them, I wish you the all the best.

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Awww c'mon. 100 per pack at SDCC and 180+ each already on ebay preorder? Something is definately way over the limit, seriously, leaving aside the factor of non-US citizens. Brutal, that's how I see it and definately not cool a single bit.

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Old 05-25-2016, 02:19 PM   #86
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I see what your saying, but from the buyers point of view, you have to ask yourself are they worth $200-$300 for each set?

I am willing to pay a little over the odds, but not much, and it's even worse for me since I would have to pay higher shipping and import, on top of inflated prices
Yep, it sucks to be a TMNT fan living in the UK, and having to import everything cool that is made for the USA, but that's life for us unfortunately...

To me, the extra $95 I paid for each set is going towards the eBay listing fee, a portion of the guy's travel expenses to get to San Diego from the East Coast and back again, the time he will spend wrapping these up to keep them in top condition for their trip and then taking them to the post office.

I also accept that these are rare figures, which will be highly sought after. When demand exceeds the supply, the price goes up. That's just the way the world works. These will certainly hold their value, so I don't feel like I'll be paying over the odds in the long run, and all things considered. But that's just me.

If you really want these, and it sounds like you do, and you can afford them... Then just go for it. At the moment it sounds like you're holding back just out of principle. You don't like the idea that someone has made a profit from you on an already expensive purchase.

I kinda felt the same way as you when I saw they were double the price, but I also thought, what if these end up becoming triple the price, or even more? I would think, "damn.. I wish I picked them up when they were only double the price"... You know what I'm saying? Don't mean to get on at you, but it's just frustrating to hear you complain about the price that these are selling for.
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Yep, it sucks to be a TMNT fan living in the UK, and having to import everything cool that is made for the USA, but that's life for us unfortunately...

To me, the extra $95 I paid for each set is going towards the eBay listing fee, a portion of the guy's travel expenses to get to San Diego from the East Coast and back again, the time he will spend wrapping these up to keep them in top condition for their trip and then taking them to the post office.

I also accept that these are rare figures, which will be highly sought after. When demand exceeds the supply, the price goes up. That's just the way the world works. These will certainly hold their value, so I don't feel like I'll be paying over the odds in the long run, and all things considered. But that's just me.

If you really want these, and it sounds like you do, and you can afford them... Then just go for it. At the moment it sounds like you're holding back just out of principle. You don't like the idea that someone has made a profit from you on an already expensive purchase.

I kinda felt the same way as you when I saw they were double the price, but I also thought, what if these end up becoming triple the price, or even more? I would think, "damn.. I wish I picked them up when they were only double the price"... You know what I'm saying? Don't mean to get on at you, but it's just frustrating to hear you complain about the price that these are selling for.
I don't mean to moan, like you said just frustrated with it. I may wait and see what happens once CC is over, but will keep an eye on things in the meantime. Chances are Ill go for them sooner.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:44 PM   #88
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just frustrated with it
Simply that, really. For at least a year it seems all new TMNT additions are concentrated to the US market and that area only with a frankly "What? There is more than the US? Uh.. yeah whatever" thumbs up sign. Me no like, especially since I had to bow down to high purchasing costs, high shipping fees plus the oh so wonderful import rates. Yes, there is more than the US on this planet and really - people are (still) so what kind of ecstatic about TMNT all over the globe. Believe it or not dear manufacturers :/
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Can someone tell me why NECA has this issue but others don't? I'm not criticizing. I just don't get it. We have seen a lot of TMNT Stuff offered lately. It seems like other companies have found a way.
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Can someone tell me why NECA has this issue but others don't? I'm not criticizing. I just don't get it. We have seen a lot of TMNT Stuff offered lately. It seems like other companies have found a way.
The Revoltech figures and SH Figuarts are in a different price point and are imports. NECA being American based, have their stuff at regular stores like TRU and their figures costs under $60. Playmates are threaten by their superiority of making quality figures.
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The Revoltech figures and SH Figuarts are in a different price point and are imports. NECA being American based, have their stuff at regular stores like TRU and their figures costs under $60. Playmates are threaten by their superiority of making quality figures.
I seriously doubt that Playmates is "threatened by NECA's superiority". They're simply avoiding brand confusion and giving the customer other choices through traditional means. It's old-school retail, folks. Playmates has never catered to the serious collector's market and likely never will. They're doing what they feel is necessary to protect their brand and its profits. If kids see other, more expensive figures that they want more than the Playmates toys, they will either have their parents buy them or leave empty-handed. Neither of these scenarios are positive for Playmates.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:18 PM   #92
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Between eBay fees, PayPal fees, and shipping costs, you are looking at $30-40 just for selling these for $100. So if you sold these on eBay for $100 with free shipping, you'd only get like $70. You not only lose money on them but you also lose the time you spent waiting to get them and ultimately lose money. Then you factor in a limited quantity.

These definitely will sell out. I check out other collector forums and these are HOT. People are buying these and they will be sold out. If you look at how much the original 2008 SDCC neca 4-pack goes for on eBay, you are also investing in figures that could later fetch $700 much like the original comic NECAs.

In sum, I think the "scalping" prices are fair. From waiting to get them, carry them, transport ship them, etc. I'll pay someone extra to secure some of the most unique and quality turtles figs out there. People can complain. To that I say, do what a lot of us do, sell off stuff you don't want anymore and pick these up. No one will just give these to you. Opportunity is temporary. Just remember how much prices inflated on previous neca Turtles.
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I seriously doubt that Playmates is "threatened by NECA's superiority". They're simply avoiding brand confusion and giving the customer other choices through traditional means. It's old-school retail, folks. Playmates has never catered to the serious collector's market and likely never will. They're doing what they feel is necessary to protect their brand and its profits. If kids see other, more expensive figures that they want more than the Playmates toys, they will either have their parents buy them or leave empty-handed. Neither of these scenarios are positive for Playmates.

then why make their license so strict they can only sell at the SDCC. i dont even understand how a toy company can have such a stronghold on something they didnt even create. and Nickelodeon is letting it happen
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If NECA had to make these convention only, I don't understand why they didn't just crank out 4-5k units instead of only 3k each. Certainly they could sell all those in 4 days of SDCC and therefore make more available on the secondary market at lower prices.
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I really dig the idea behind the NECA 8bit video game line, but the execution just leaves me a little cold. I really don't think the concept lends itself to a simple repaint of existing sculpts. These things call for a complete ground-up resculpt based on the original sprites, which doesn't sound feasible for NECA. The curvy sculpts really clash with the pixel repaints, IMO.

Cool idea, but not for me. The classic Super Mario Amiibo nailed it:



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Okay....that's a very cool idea.
And I kind of need those in my collection.
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The Revoltech figures and SH Figuarts are in a different price point and are imports. NECA being American based, have their stuff at regular stores like TRU and their figures costs under $60. Playmates are threaten by their superiority of making quality figures.
Thanks. I forgot they are an American company.
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Oh I'd love those original nes turtles. I need those on a T-shirt.
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I really dig the idea behind the NECA 8bit video game line, but the execution just leaves me a little cold. I really don't think the concept lends itself to a simple repaint of existing sculpts. These things call for a complete ground-up resculpt based on the original sprites, which doesn't sound feasible for NECA. The curvy sculpts really clash with the pixel repaints, IMO.

Cool idea, but not for me. The classic Super Mario Amiibo nailed it:

I agree with this fully.....after my initial excitement....I will be passing on these and saving my money on something else. After looking at them for a few days I agree that there is just something about them that I am not a fan of. I think it is the curvy sculpts with painted pixels. I would buy a pixelated figure in a second! GL to all those who are going for them. I agree that you should probably wait a while to get them....like 6 months or so. Many exclusives drop a lot after the hype goes away
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I really dig the idea behind the NECA 8bit video game line, but the execution just leaves me a little cold. I really don't think the concept lends itself to a simple repaint of existing sculpts. These things call for a complete ground-up resculpt based on the original sprites, which doesn't sound feasible for NECA. The curvy sculpts really clash with the pixel repaints, IMO.

Cool idea, but not for me. The classic Super Mario Amiibo nailed it:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...zL._SY606_.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hsbvJVu.jpg
The turtles are completely new sculpts, not repaints.
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