Tmnt 2 is making less than half what the original made

[miru]

Michael Baked. People know well his films are going to be rotten rubbish. He'll be less than Shamaladingdong in a year.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by miru

Michael Baked. People know well his films are going to be rotten rubbish. He'll be less than Shamaladingdong in a year.

The thing with the PD Turtles movies, though, is Michael Bay can always hide behind the, "Oh, those? I was only a producer," even though it's his name thrown out there in all ads and marketing and neither director of either films. Puppet directors.

[Commenter 42]

1. When has Brad Fuller ever produced a good re-make?

2. After ****ing up repeatedly, what's his take home? What's his net worth?

3. He will never admit fault.

[marcelangelo]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I hate this guy so much. Comparing any Platinum Dunes film to art is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Hahahaha man you are speaking out of my heart! !!Me too

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

1. When has Brad Fuller ever produced a good re-make?

2. After ****ing up repeatedly, what's his take home? What's his net worth?

3. He will never admit fault.

1. He's never produced a good movie, period. (No, seriously.)

2. More than you or I can likely conceive of.

3. Hahahahahaha, nooope.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

1. When has Brad Fuller ever produced a good re-make?

2. After ****ing up repeatedly, what's his take home? What's his net worth?

3. He will never admit fault.

Sure he does, "we" are the one's at fault because "we" don't like his interpretations.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Bry

1. He's never produced a good movie, period. (No, seriously.)

2. More than you or I can likely conceive of.

3. Hahahahahaha, nooope.

I thought people liked the Purge series?

It's not my cup of tea; I'm only familiar with the basic concept...

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I thought people liked the Purge series?

It's not my cup of tea; I'm only familiar with the basic concept...

I've heard the sequel with Frank Grillo is cool. But the first one is literally one of my most miserable theater experiences ever.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Bry

1. He's never produced a good movie, period. (No, seriously.)

Yeah, I liked the Purge movies. Project Almanac was oh-kay.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I thought people liked the Purge series?

It's not my cup of tea; I'm only familiar with the basic concept...

It's got its fans, but reviews and audience ratings are pretty... not great...

The gist I've heard is that it's a pretty decent concept but with mediocre execution. And that's easily the best thing he's been involved with.

[ToTheNines]

Just now read that Fuller interview... holy ****.

“I don’t call them fans. They’re haters. And I hear from them all the time,” Fuller said.

Dude, I own Operation Blue Line and We Wish You a Turtles Christmas on vhs. As well as the two-part anime and Casey Jones short on dvd.

I've spent insane amounts of money on tracking down the Mirage magazine size issues. And I printed home made dvd box art for the later seasons of the original cartoon because I couldn't wait to own them all.

I will logistically rearrange my Wednesday or Sunday for the sake of a new IDW or Nick turtles. I have two red eared sliders named Kirby and Spike for god sakes.

But I'm not a fan because I don't like your disrespectful, sacrilegious, ugly Transformers-lite "blockbuster" that you slapped the words "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" on?

**** you, mother ****er.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Just now read that Fuller interview... holy ****.



Dude, I own Operation Blue Line and We Wish You a Turtles Christmas on vhs. As well as the two-part anime and Casey Jones short on dvd.

I've spent insane amounts of money on tracking down the Mirage magazine size issues. And I printed home made dvd box art for the later seasons of the original cartoon because I couldn't wait to own them all.

I will logistically rearrange my Wednesday or Sunday for the sake of a new IDW or Nick turtles. I have two red eared sliders named Kirby and Spike for god sakes.

But I'm not a fan because I don't like your disrespectful, sacrilegious, ugly Transformers-lite "blockbuster" that you slapped the words "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" on?

**** you, mother ****er.

Well said.

He hears from these people all the time because he obviously isn't doing something right.

I certainly wouldn't call these people haters. TMNT is something near and dear to our hearts and it rubs us the wrong way when we see someone disrespect and crap all over it. Some are just more vocal about it. I do feel the term hater is a tired, overused, juvenile way of labeling someone that doesn't agree with your grand sh!tty vision.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Screw you, Fuller.

He's only talking like this because he's panicking. His movie is doing badly and it means he won't get as much high-profile work in the future. Good riddance, if this is how he treats the people whom he should be paying a good bit more attention to.

[Bry]

The general audience is rejecting his movie, and his response is to insult the hardcore fans? So... I guess he doesn't want anyone to want to see these things? Cool. Cool.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Bry

The general audience is rejecting his movie, and his response is to insult the hardcore fans? So... I guess he doesn't want anyone to want to see these things? Cool. Cool.

Sounds like Fant4stic all over again... just without the meltdown.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

The general movie audience relies heavily on RT scores and reviews before seeing movies.

Sure, when they actually bother to read or watch those reviews or scores. However, no one I know personally or have talked to in the "general audience" does so. They just go to movies they think look "cool". Most people are not concerned with ratings from some critic they don't know or have anything in common with. They would rathwr trust the word of mouth of friends and family. People whose opinions and tastes they already know and trust.

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Yes, the second sequel in a series and the umpteenth movie in a connected universe series that opened at 180 million OW and earned over a billion world wide "underperformed."

Compared to Winter Soldier from 2014 which made 95 million OW and 714 million WW.

That blew THIS little bit out of the water good and hard

Complete bullsh*t.

And never mind Deadpool which has the highest box office for an R rated movie EVER, but ALSO opened in February to the tune of 132 million dollars.

February is where movies go to die quietly, especially action movies that get summer releases. And it STILL blew everybody away.

Yes, that's why BayTurtles 2 is failing so hard. It was actually a decent movie but people are just bored of comic book movies now.

That's the reason. Yeah.

Not because it's a sh*t movie or anything.

And yet GotG, a property NO ONE in the general public knew was a thing in any way, and to a lesser extent Deadpool, who has some cult status but still isn't like a Wolverine or Spider-Man, completely exploded at the box office.

The fact is this movie, with no REAL competition this weekend, in June, just bombed at the box office opening weekend.

Because it's bad.

Wow. Once again you take everything I said and turn it backwards to prove your own "point". Why am I not surprised. Yes those movies made money. Did they make as much as they COULD have? For most the answer is no. BvS in particular, but also the X-Films, especially Apocolypse. Deadpool was, as I said, a novelty. A superhero movie for ADULTS. It made so much because it was meant for an older audience, and that drew people in for the "shock" factor of a superhero who swears, gleefully kills bad guys, is not shy about sex or nudity, and basically does everything guys like Superman or Spiderman NEVER would. People were curious and it was a refreshing change. An unfiltered a$$h*le who is also a sulerhero.

Contrast this with the plrtrayal of Bats and Supes- both were darker than we are used to. But in their case it made fans and casual watchers uncomfortable. And they took the dive for it. X-Men was one of the better installatikns of that franchise so why didn't it do well? Because people are getting tired of the series. It's gone on long enough to have changed actors. That should tell you something right there. Same with the new Star Trek verse. It's just not the same, and that turns people off. (Not superheroes, but since we seem to be including sci-fi here it is relevant.)

Again, NONE of the people I know aside from one or two diehard fans are excited or even particularly interested in superhero movies anymore. They are burned out on comic book movies. You say it will happen eventually- but after over a decade and a half of big budget CBMs, I say it already IS happening. This is coming from TALKING to people about these movies. They just don't get excited or even care about seeing them! (And some of them are actually fans of the characters so if even they don't care then obviously the fatigue has set in.)

And whether you care or not doesn't make it any less true.

Originally Posted by beeshaw

This.

Why did we need a 5 minute 'action(?)' scene of them getting to basketball game?Why the hell were they on the top of the Empire State building? Why not start with them just 'stealthily' sneaking into the jumbo-tron. It was a 'cool' scene, but added nothing to the movie.

Someone obviously didn't watch that scene closely enough- or just doesn't know their landmark buildings. That was the Chrystler Building NOT the Empire State! I'd think having Mikey incite a pile-up on one of the falcon gargoyles would be enough to make that clear. Or that wide shot panning in on them on the art-deco spire.....

[beeshaw]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Someone obviously didn't watch that scene closely enough- or just doesn't know their landmark buildings. That was the Chrystler Building NOT the Empire State! I'd think having Mikey incite a pile-up on one of the falcon gargoyles would be enough to make that clear. Or that wide shot panning in on them on the art-deco spire.....

Thanks for the clarification. I'm Canadian.

Outside of me not knowing which buildings are which in the New York skyline... They really had no business being up there. lol

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by beeshaw

Thanks for the clarification. I'm Canadian.

Outside of me not knowing which buildings are which in the New York skyline... They really had no business being up there. lol

So how do you explain them constantly running around on rooftops in Nick or 2K3 series? They've ALWAYS spentba lot of time in high places- I imagine it's a nice change from looking UP at the world from a sewer grate.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

So how do you explain them constantly running around on rooftops in Nick or 2K3 series? They've ALWAYS spentba lot of time in high places- I imagine it's a nice change from looking UP at the world from a sewer grate.

To be fair, in those shows they're generally shown rooftop-hopping across much smaller buildings, not the tallest skyscrapers in midtown.

[ToTheNines]

I've always envisioned the majority of TMNT action as taking place in the Bronx, maybe some of the northern Manhattan neighborhoods.