Can someone pinpoint when Raphael became the muscle?

[Krutch]

In most incarnations he was always the aggressive type, sure. But I don't seem to recall when he explicitly became known as the brute of the team.

When did this happen, exactly?

[CyberCubed]

The 2k3 series, I imagine? He was always portrayed as the most physically strong in that series.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

In most incarnations he was always the aggressive type, sure. But I don't seem to recall when he explicitly became known as the brute of the team.

When did this happen, exactly?

The Raphael Mirage special began it, with him a split second away from braining Michelangelo with a pipe. The first movie underscored it. 2K3 continued it. By the time of TMNT 2007 "Angry Raph" was well, well established.

As far as an all-out brute? That's just a PD thing.

[plastroncafe]

I'd go so far as to say the first panel of the first book is what plants the seeds of Raph being the bruiser of the crew.

He's the only one that gets described in Leo's opening narration.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The 2k3 series, I imagine? He was always portrayed as the most physically strong in that series.

You might be right with that. Though maybe Next Mutation as well, if I remember correctly.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The Raphael Mirage special began it, with him a split second away from braining Michelangelo with a pipe. The first movie underscored it. 2K3 continued it. By the time of TMNT 2007 "Angry Raph" was well, well established.

Oh I know 'Angry Raph' has always been a constant. I was moreso wondering where his "he's the strongest" shtick came in. Does anyone have the RPG stats to look up? I'm at work for another 9 hours or so.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Oh I know 'Angry Raph' has always been a constant. I was moreso wondering where his "he's the strongest" shtick came in. Does anyone have the RPG stats to look up? I'm at work for another 9 hours or so.

Raph got in Attributes: I.Q. 12, M.E. 13, M.A. 11, P.S. 20, P.P. 18, P.E. 20,
P.B. 5

[plastroncafe]

Don't have the books on me at the moment, but there's this breakdown from a 'Drome thread from 2005.

Originally Posted by Neko

IQ - Intelligence Quotient
ME - Mental Endurance
MA - Mental Affinity
PS - Physical Strength
PP - Physical Prowess
PE - Physical Endurance
PB - Physical Beauty

Donatello: IQ: 19, ME: 15, MA: 12, PS: 13, PP: 17, PE: 13, PB: 9, Speed: 10

Leonardo: IQ: 16, ME: 16, MA: 17, PS: 15, PP: 20, PE: 18, PB: 11, Speed: 11

Michealangelo: IQ: 11, ME: 14, MA: 19, PS: 16, PP: 24, PE: 17, PB: 16, Speed: 14

Raphael: IQ: 12, ME: 13, MA: 11, PS: 20, PP: 18, PE: 20, PB: 5, Speed: 15

Splinter: IQ:12, ME:14, MA:16, PS:12, PP:15, PE:8, PB:8, Speed: 8

[Krutch]

Ah, thanks guys!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Well that explains why Mikey is considered the "good looking" one lol! Pb 16?! Wow he's more physically "attractive" than a lot of humans!