Best James Avery replacement in the classic TMNT cartoon

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 04:25 PM

Well, just as the title says, this is where you post your thoughts on who was the best fill-in for James Avery's Shredder in the classic TMNT cartoon.

Personally, I've always felt Bill Martin was the best replacement overall. He tries to imitate Avery in terms of delivery, but he also seems to be adding his own touch to the role. He sounds more violent and menacing than Avery, but he also has his fun moments. So yeah, personally I think Bill managed to do a great job filling in for Avery while also managing to sound unique.

Jim Cummings may have sound pretty close to Avery, but even though it's a good imitation, I really prefer Bill's more unique approach. Plus, Cummings sounds a little bit too raspy, which made him sound forced at times. It's still good, but not as successful as Bill, IMO.

Dorian Harewood is a little bit deeper than Avery, but it's still a pretty good attempt.

Townsend Coleman sounds a little bit too high, but his delivery is pretty good.

So yeah, who do you think was the best Shredder replacement in the classic Turtles cartoon????

thundermaster612 · 08-10-2016, 05:58 PM

Townsend. Normal Shredder hit quite a few high vocal points in his time. So it wasn't too unusual to hear Townsend do him.

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thundermaster612

Townsend. Normal Shredder hit quite a few high vocal points in his time. So it wasn't too unusual to hear Townsend do him.

Cool. Very interesting to hear that you like Towny more. Most of the people I've seen are not too fond of his Shredhead, but IMO, he was cool.

**Jester** · 08-10-2016, 06:21 PM

Dorian Harewood. The voice so nice, he replaced Avery twice.

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 06:26 PM

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Dorian Harewood. The voice so nice, he replaced Avery twice.

It rhymes!!!!

And Harewood was pretty cool. And this is not the only time he would take over from Avery (if you've seen the Iron Man cartoon, then you'll see what I mean).

**Jester** · 08-10-2016, 08:29 PM

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It rhymes!!!!

And Harewood was pretty cool. And this is not the only time he would take over from Avery (if you've seen the Iron Man cartoon, then you'll see what I mean).

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*FredWolfLeonardo* · 08-10-2016, 08:35 PM

I think Townsend is the overall best replacement of shredder as we know him during the main seasons, but I think Bill Martin is the best as a successor to Shredder when he becomes darker during the Red Sky seasons.

Not to brag though, I think I can do a pretty good Shredder. There are some videos on my YouTube channel where I impersonate him.

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 10:34 PM

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Heheheh, good ol' Mistah J!!!!

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I think Townsend is the overall best replacement of shredder as we know him during the main seasons, but I think Bill Martin is the best as a successor to Shredder when he becomes darker during the Red Sky seasons.

Not to brag though, I think I can do a pretty good Shredder. There are some videos on my YouTube channel where I impersonate him.

Yeah, that's the main reason why I love Bill. He managed to give him a threatening edge while also managing to be entertaining at the right times.

That sounds cool.

*Powder* · 08-10-2016, 10:36 PM

Jim Cummings. Probably because I had a few of his episodes ripped onto VHS as a kid. Nostalgia bias or whatever. He put in a solid performance though, I think I'd go for it either way.

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Jim Cummings. Probably because I had a few of his episodes ripped onto VHS as a kid. Nostalgia bias or whatever. He put in a solid performance though, I think I'd go for it either way.

Yeah, he was a little bit rough at the edges at times, but he wasn't bad.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 08-10-2016, 10:47 PM

I was surprised when I found Townsend Coleman wasn't gonna do 80's Shredder for the second crossover.

But I think 2k12 shredder's Voice Actor will beautifully nail it as his 80's counterpart.

TheUltimateBum · 08-10-2016, 10:52 PM

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I was surprised when I found Townsend Coleman wasn't gonna do 80's Shredder for the second crossover.

But I think 2k12 shredder's Voice Actor will beautifully nail it as his 80's counterpart.

Yeah, it is kinda weird that they didn't bring one of the other fill-ins back. I really expected Bill Martin to reprise, but thanks to his passing, that will never happen.

Still, I think Kevin Michael Richardson will still do a great job as the 80's Shredder.

*Zachatello00* · 08-11-2016, 09:23 AM

In one of the earlier episodes, Season 2, I think, Michelangelo disguises himself as Shredder and sneak attacks the other turtles as a prank. My kids were recently watching it, and I said to my wife, "Wow, Michelangelo does a decent Shredder impression." That was when I remembered that Townsend voiced the Shredder a little bit. So he (And, I guess, Michelangelo) has (have) my vote.

*Wesley* · 08-11-2016, 10:06 AM

Townsend Coleman, though Bill Martin is a close second. I thought Coleman sounded more menacing than the others.

TheUltimateBum · 08-11-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00

In one of the earlier episodes, Season 2, I think, Michelangelo disguises himself as Shredder and sneak attacks the other turtles as a prank. My kids were recently watching it, and I said to my wife, "Wow, Michelangelo does a decent Shredder impression." That was when I remembered that Townsend voiced the Shredder a little bit. So he (And, I guess, Michelangelo) has (have) my vote.

Not only that, but ol' Shredhead did a pretty good Mikey impression in "Cowabunga Shredhead"!!!!

TheUltimateBum · 08-11-2016, 10:26 AM

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Townsend Coleman, though Bill Martin is a close second. I thought Coleman sounded more menacing than the others.

I'm surprised how many people like Towny here. I must admit, I liked all the fill-ins, but Bill was my favorite. Still, really cool to hear all your thoughts.

~~ABrown~~ · 08-11-2016, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00

In one of the earlier episodes, Season 2, I think, Michelangelo disguises himself as Shredder and sneak attacks the other turtles as a prank. My kids were recently watching it, and I said to my wife, "Wow, Michelangelo does a decent Shredder impression." That was when I remembered that Townsend voiced the Shredder a little bit. So he (And, I guess, Michelangelo) has (have) my vote.

I actually just watched that episode recently. I didn't think he sounded that much like Shredder (or rather like James Avery).

TheUltimateBum · 08-11-2016, 11:40 AM

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I actually just watched that episode recently. I didn't think he sounded that much like Shredder (or rather like James Avery).

Yeah, but that's because it was Mikey imitating Shredder.

*pferreira* · 09-01-2016, 10:17 AM

Definitely Jim Cummings without a doubt. He did the best Avery impression. Townsend wasn't a great Shredder and did a worse Krang.

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08-10-2016, 04:25 PM	#1
TheUltimateBum Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: My place, DUH!!! Posts: 127	Best James Avery replacement in the classic TMNT cartoon Well, just as the title says, this is where you post your thoughts on who was the best fill-in for James Avery's Shredder in the classic TMNT cartoon. Personally, I've always felt Bill Martin was the best replacement overall. He tries to imitate Avery in terms of delivery, but he also seems to be adding his own touch to the role. He sounds more violent and menacing than Avery, but he also has his fun moments. So yeah, personally I think Bill managed to do a great job filling in for Avery while also managing to sound unique. Jim Cummings may have sound pretty close to Avery, but even though it's a good imitation, I really prefer Bill's more unique approach. Plus, Cummings sounds a little bit too raspy, which made him sound forced at times. It's still good, but not as successful as Bill, IMO. Dorian Harewood is a little bit deeper than Avery, but it's still a pretty good attempt. Townsend Coleman sounds a little bit too high, but his delivery is pretty good. So yeah, who do you think was the best Shredder replacement in the classic Turtles cartoon????

08-10-2016, 05:58 PM	#2
thundermaster612 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Ninjago City Posts: 1,214	Townsend. Normal Shredder hit quite a few high vocal points in his time. So it wasn't too unusual to hear Townsend do him. __________________

08-10-2016, 06:21 PM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Dorian Harewood. The voice so nice, he replaced Avery twice. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-11-2016, 09:23 AM	#14
Zachatello00 On the beat! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hiding behind the phone booth Posts: 2,137	In one of the earlier episodes, Season 2, I think, Michelangelo disguises himself as Shredder and sneak attacks the other turtles as a prank. My kids were recently watching it, and I said to my wife, "Wow, Michelangelo does a decent Shredder impression." That was when I remembered that Townsend voiced the Shredder a little bit. So he (And, I guess, Michelangelo) has (have) my vote. __________________ "You're still news!"

08-10-2016, 10:36 PM	#10
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,954	Jim Cummings. Probably because I had a few of his episodes ripped onto VHS as a kid. Nostalgia bias or whatever. He put in a solid performance though, I think I'd go for it either way.

08-11-2016, 10:06 AM	#15
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	Townsend Coleman, though Bill Martin is a close second. I thought Coleman sounded more menacing than the others. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

09-01-2016, 10:17 AM	#20
pferreira Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,514	Definitely Jim Cummings without a doubt. He did the best Avery impression. Townsend wasn't a great Shredder and did a worse Krang. Last edited by pferreira; 09-08-2016 at 09:51 AM.