The Next Mutation Fox Kids Web Site

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by sdp

Of course you can't compare the costumes of TMNT 3 to the show, they had entirely different budgets, one is a movie while the other is a tv show. And of course they are much better than the Coming out of the Shells costumes, it's not even a fair fight. They're pretty decent costumes for a budget tv show and they offered the best movement out of any other live action turtles costume, not even in TMNT 3 did they move this much.


Again most of you are watching this show in hindsight and not in context. You may bash it based on the first 10 minutes of the first episode but if you stick with it you'll see that's possibly the worst the show ever is. I'm not saying it ever becomes great but it has some redeemable things and some good episodes. I always post the same thing here defending TNM and many most think I'm a huge fan, but I'm not. I just think it's an alright show that doesn't deserve the hate it gets, especially when most just repeat like sheep flaws that they read on other websites that are completely untrue like "It was the Venus show" and they continue to spread misconceptions. Good show? No. Terrible? nah.

Would you say TNM coustumes are less offensive than the CGI look of the PD films?

[sdp]

Well that depends on how you are comparing them if you go style/art wise then TNM is much better but if you go by quality obviously the PD wins. So yeah I prefer TNM but they're uglier than PD's.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Would you say TNM coustumes are less offensive than the CGI look of the PD films?

Honestly, yeah I would. Ignoring the obvious budget differences the TNM designs are better. I will say though PD TMNT designs did improve for the second film (especially Leo I thought).

[CyberCubed]

The Next Mutation designs themselves aren't bad at all, if you look at fanart of the Turtles with those designs they look great.

It was just the small budget for a kids TV show that didn't allow them to make the costumes as good as they could have.

[Ninjinister]

Nobody gonna mention that they still had a pic of YelLeo on their page?

[Chaotix12345]

Those video clips are interesting since the scenes are dubbed over by completely different actors, including Jess Harnell, what sounds like Billy West I believe, and even Cam Clarke as Raph!

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Nobody gonna mention that they still had a pic of YelLeo on their page?

Well it is in the intro for the entirety of the series.

Originally Posted by Chaotix12345

Those video clips are interesting since the scenes are dubbed over by completely different actors, including Jess Harnell, what sounds like Billy West I believe, and even Cam Clarke as Raph!

Soooo weird, can you imagine if they had actually been the cast? Totally different vibe. I really like TNM's voice talent, so I'm glad we got who we got. They seemed like perfect fits (barring perhaps Splinter, but he was bad all around). Anyway, I have to assume they hadn't dubbed the show yet & had some on-hand talent do these placeholder vocals for the advertisements.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Isn't that just the ordinary Ninja Turtles website changed a little biy.

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by sdp

TNM was really hip and cool, I was still a kid unlike a lot of dromers here and my heroes who had been absent for a while were back! But now they were older! they dressed cooler! and totally represented the 90s. Not only that but it was live action like the movies I loved which were totally more serious. The best of it all was that there was a new member! a female turtle. The action figures showed this new awesome villain called the Dragonlord and Shredder is in all black looking all badass.

I don't remember if I ever got to watch the show as a kid and if I did it was only an episode or two though but I do remember listening to the 15 second preview song of the Armageddon soundtrack at Walmart thinking of the turtles fighting against the Dragonlord. It's easy to dimiss as cynical adults these things but it's more fun to remember our feelings as kids and not looking at things in hindsight or thinking we knew better back then.

I thought the same things about the show when I was 11, except the 1987 cartoon was still being aired in Ireland back then. I only watched an episode or two, but I thought the finale was good, though I didn't knew it was the last episode at the time.

[Bry]

I don't know if it's just an issue with Wayback Machine right now, but the page is even loading as slow as a website in 1998. It's a nice touch.

[Powder]

I'd guess the former, it worked just fine for me yesterday.

[CyberCubed]

If the Next Mutation at least had the same tone as TMNT II, I probably would have loved the show. Unfortunately it didn't and was far more dumbed down and child like.

TMNT II had the perfect balance between being more similar to the cartoons but not overly childish.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Unfortunately it didn't and was far more dumbed down and child like.

All of this coming from somebody who loves the nick show. The worst of them all

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The-Shredder

The Turtles now have a "sister" to the four now eighteen year old "brothers"

They're 17 in NT:TNM, not 18.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If the Next Mutation at least had the same tone as TMNT II, I probably would have loved the show. Unfortunately it didn't and was far more dumbed down and child like.

TMNT II had the perfect balance between being more similar to the cartoons but not overly childish.

Makes me wonder, in retrospect. Had NT:TNM hit TV, like, right after TMNT II came out, and ridden that wave... would it have been more embraced?

I mean, by 1997, 1998... the 10ish year olds who saw, say, the first couple movies were already 17, 18 by this point. A puzzling decision to create something at that point even more "babyish" than the corniest of the films from almost a decade before at that point. I guess the intention was to try and spark a new generation of fans with it... but you don't lead with something like NT:TNM.

[plastroncafe]

You do when Power Rangers are everywhere and making bank.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

All of this coming from somebody who loves the nick show. The worst of them all

WTF? The Nick cartoon literally has the most adult humor and ton of action scenes of many of the series, as anyone who has watched it can tell you. You said you never watched anything past the first episode, so who are you fooling?

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I mean, by 1997, 1998... the 10ish year olds who saw, say, the first couple movies were already 17, 18 by this point. A puzzling decision to create something at that point even more "babyish" than the corniest of the films from almost a decade before at that point. I guess the intention was to try and spark a new generation of fans with it... but you don't lead with something like NT:TNM.

What bugs me is all those early advertisements for Next Mutation kept calling it a, "more adult version of TMNT" or kept saying, "The Turtles are now 17 year olds, they don't have time for pizza anymore, they're grown up!"

Its like false advertising. I mean it was obviously going to be a kids show from the start, but it could have at least had the same tone as the 3 live-action movies and had some sense of darkness or action to it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What bugs me is all those early advertisements for Next Mutation kept calling it a, "more adult version of TMNT" or kept saying, "The Turtles are now 17 year olds, they don't have time for pizza anymore, they're grown up!"

Its like false advertising. I mean it was obviously going to be a kids show from the start, but it could have at least had the same tone as the 3 live-action movies and had some sense of darkness or action to it.

At least when Image TMNT said the boys were growing up, they f***ing grew the f*** up.

It was gritty and bloody and booby and Raph burned his face off and Donnie was a cyborg and Pimiko ran around in a BDSM suit.

I love that series. But I couldn't not poke a little fun here.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

WTF? The Nick cartoon literally has the most adult humor and ton of action scenes of many of the series, as anyone who has watched it can tell you. You said you never watched anything past the first episode, so who are you fooling?



What bugs me is all those early advertisements for Next Mutation kept calling it a, "more adult version of TMNT" or kept saying, "The Turtles are now 17 year olds, they don't have time for pizza anymore, they're grown up!"

Its like false advertising. I mean it was obviously going to be a kids show from the start, but it could have at least had the same tone as the 3 live-action movies and had some sense of darkness or action to it.

i watched the first episode and knew it was crap. i also watched transdimentional turtles. Also crap. it's kiddie crap through and through. Who you foolin.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

i watched the first episode and knew it was crap. i also watched transdimentional turtles. Also crap. it's kiddie crap through and through. Who you foolin.

LOL, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about, and you've been called out on this in the Nick section many times.