Season 5 Discussion Thread

[Vicky82]

The only thing that concerns me with this final, is that Mikey and Leo won't be getting enough screen time, it seems to just focus on Donnie and Raph.

I'm also worried that Mikey won't be doing much, like fighting and have some big moments because he's gotten quite old.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by biganimefan

Hmm...suddenly the "younger, lighter feel" for the next series makes more sense.

i sometimes wonder if Nick is shocked at how 'violent' the new series got...and feels they made a mistake with this new team? this has to be the most serious show they've done to this point.

Now I can't help but wonder if they are trying to back track a bit to make it fit in with other nick shows a little more.

[Leofan26]

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov

What if he's in the finale but dies during it?

UGH! Either way I'll be ticked.

He should get = amount of focus, they all should. It's the flipping final episode.

[newfan]

In a way I wonder if this should have been the arc with 4 eps but then at the same time it's so depressing maybe not.
Leo is being kept under wraps, we won't know what they are likely to do with him yet.
As for Mikey, I wonder if that's why they gave him his moments to shine in season 5 because he'll be frail in this one, still he could make a contribution, just not with physical fighting.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

The only thing that concerns me with this final, is that Mikey and Leo won't be getting enough screen time, it seems to just focus on Donnie and Raph.

I'm also worried that Mikey won't be doing much, like fighting and have some big moments because he's gotten quite old.

And I suppose this was perfectly fine when Raph didn't get much screen time in the monster arc or when Raph was a background character and did very little for nearly the entire series.

Mikey has done loads of awesome stuff and saved the day a lot this season. Stop being a hypocrite.

[BYWInsaniac]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

i sometimes wonder if Nick is shocked at how 'violent' the new series got...and feels they made a mistake with this new team? this has to be the most serious show they've done to this point.

Now I can't help but wonder if they are trying to back track a bit to make it fit in with other nick shows a little more.

As serious as TMNT could get, I don't think it ever matched Legend of Korra's later seasons. Even on TMNT's darkest day, there was still levity to be had. I mean, this happened as the world was literally being ripped to pieces:

Spoiler:

[NikitaZhukov]

I like all 4 turtles, but seriously, Leo and Mikey stole the whole freaking show with first's stale heroic solo acts and second's stale "save the day" moments. It's about time Donnie and Raph come out of their brothers' shadows because these two are crazy and, according to Raph, crazy wins the wasteland.

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

The only thing that concerns me with this final, is that Mikey and Leo won't be getting enough screen time, it seems to just focus on Donnie and Raph.

I'm also worried that Mikey won't be doing much, like fighting and have some big moments because he's gotten quite old.

Even though i have a feeling Leo will hardly be in it, i at least hope he didnt die.

Also, anyone else getting a fallout vibe from the finale?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

And I suppose this was perfectly fine when Raph didn't get much screen time in the monster arc or when Raph was a background character and did very little for nearly the entire series.

Mikey has done loads of awesome stuff and saved the day a lot this season. Stop being a hypocrite.

Everyone has their favorite, it's not hypocritical to want your own fave turtle to get some focus. And Raph has had plenty of focus/moments himself.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov

I like all 4 turtles, but seriously, Leo and Mikey stole the whole freaking show with first's stale heroic solo acts and second's stale "save the day" moments. It's about time Donnie and Raph come out of their brothers' shadows because these two are crazy and, according to Raph, crazy wins the wasteland.

I feel like the writers normally leaned into Leo and Donnie as the lead characters, rather than Leo/Mike.

But yeah, Raph was definitely the runt of this series, glad to see him as the focal point of the last 3 episodes.

[Leofan26]

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov

I like all 4 turtles, but seriously, Leo and Mikey stole the whole freaking show with first's stale heroic solo acts and second's stale "save the day" moments. It's about time Donnie and Raph come out of their brothers' shadows because these two are crazy and, according to Raph, crazy wins the wasteland.

If it was just another couple of episodes in between seasons I'd be fine with this but it's the flipping final.

I watched a few season five episodes and I didn't notice Leo hogging all the screen time.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

And I suppose this was perfectly fine when Raph didn't get much screen time in the monster arc or when Raph was a background character and did very little for nearly the entire series.

Mikey has done loads of awesome stuff and saved the day a lot this season. Stop being a hypocrite.

Wow I can't believe you moaning about the monster arc and try to compare it with the final. Anyway Mikey was more of a background character in the Crossover arc and I didn't moan.

I wasn't being a hypocrite, this final is special, so all 4 turtles should have equal screen time and all have big moments.

None of them should have less screen time.

I'm just worried that, due to Mikey being a lot older he won't be able to do much. he may get hurt easily or dies easily.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov

What if he's in the finale but dies during it?

Fair point! Depends on the death but I'd probably still be upset. I really want all 4 of the guys to make it through this!

Originally Posted by Vicky82

this final is special, so all 4 turtles should have equal screen time and all have big moments.

Gotta agree with this. It's great when any of the guys (or any of the supporting cast) get focus for an episode or story arc but for the finale they all need a share of the focus and a moment to shine since this is the end.

[JH24]

At this stage I'm already relieved Mikey is going to be in it.

Mikey may still have his own role to play. He is kind and understanding.

He's always willing to make new friends and he may be able to connect to others and gain someone's trust.

[Tarris Vaal]

Im expecting none of the 4 to make it through the final personally.

I've explained that I believe a time travel reset is a likely end scenario and that the characters will be working towards achieving that end - but I would expect it to be achieved only at a high price. All 4 going down before the reset seems like a reasonable way to achieve that and still end on a happy note with a 'dark future' averted (probably with hints that it may not be as averted as they'd like)

[Vicky82]

One thing I forgot to add

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

And I suppose this was perfectly fine when Raph didn't get much screen time in the monster arc

Raph had plenty of screen time in the monster arc.

He was in every scene with the Turtles and Renet in the 1st 2 episodes.

In the 3rd episode, I counted 2 scenes he wasn't in with the others but he was in scenes with the bad guys instead.

In the 4th episode he was with the others until middle of the episode when he escapes and has a scene with the bad guys but then he's with everyone in the final battle.

Raph still had plenty of screen time in 3rd and 4th episode of the Monster Arc than Donnie did in The Broken Foot.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

Im expecting none of the 4 to make it through the final personally.

I've explained that I believe a time travel reset is a likely end scenario and that the characters will be working towards achieving that end - but I would expect it to be achieved only at a high price. All 4 going down before the reset seems like a reasonable way to achieve that and still end on a happy note with a 'dark future' averted (probably with hints that it may not be as averted as they'd like)

So something like the end of Wolfs Rain where all the characters are killed off at the end and then inexplicably they are shown in a world that is alive and whole once more.

The gist of Wolfs Rain is there is a group of Wolfs that are on a journey with a girl who is genetically engineered from a flower in an apocalyptic wasteland searching for paradise. And the flower girl is the key to paradise. As the story concludes all the characters systematically are killed off and it looks as though they didn't succeed at reaching paradise. But then the moment inexplicably shifts to a city where everything is free from wasteland and each of the wolves (Who can appear as humans for some strange reason) are shown.

Which leaves more questions then answers because it's like did they all die, and this is the afterlife. Because paradise is another way of saying heaven. Or is this really the paradise they were trying to get.

[newfan]

What if the wasteland is real, all of it, and they all die but then there is a flash back to the past, some key element that kicked it all off, and you see one of the turtles stumble across something like an ingredient or devise (either at the end of the end credits) and say 'hmmm what's this'...then messing with it .... but it finishes there leaving us to wonder if they changed the future or not.
You know rather than have the lord of the rings 3 extended happy endings.
Still depressing to me though I don't need extended happy ever afters but but happier than I think we are getting.

[BubblyShell22]

What if the map leads to something to change the future itself? What if maybe there was an object Renet left to help change the future so even if she isn't in the arc, she could still play a role? Or Fugitoid? I know there are people who want the dark gritty ending of all of them dying, but I just don't want that. It would really break me.

[Hardshell]

Someone at Toonzone who worked on TMNT posted the production order for the 5th season:

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threa...#post-85665821