Is there a "toxicity" in this fandom?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

It's even worse now due to the rise of the insulting SJW and feminist behavior. that's one reason why the Block button is so important. and even that isn't 100% perfect in helping to keep your sanity online these days.

Why is feminist behavior is insulting and where does it appear in relation to TMNT?

Especially considering that TMNT always had a sizable female fanbase.

[Vegita-San]

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

[Spike Spiegel]

Every fandom is toxic to a degree.

What I've seen on this board is small potatoes compared to what's on Reddit, DeviantArt, and Tumblr. If anything, I think that the slightly antiquated quality that old style message boards have seems to weed out the really crazy people.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

If anything, I think that the slightly antiquated quality that old style message boards have seems to weed out the really crazy people.

True, maybe the advent of social media has helped that? At least for the rapid fire ones who might find message boards and their bigger discussions too much work and easier to block them.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

living embodiment of the toxicity

Am I the only one that immediately pictured the pink slime from Ghostbusters? lol

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

True, maybe the advent of social media has helped that? At least for the rapid fire ones who might find message boards and their bigger discussions too much work and easier to block them.



Am I the only one that immediately pictured the pink slime from Ghostbusters? lol

He might be.

To his credit, at least Cubed doesn't insult you too horribly. He just has trouble (or a stubborn refusal) admitting that other people have different opinions than his and his word isn't law.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

He might be.

To his credit, at least Cubed doesn't insult you too horribly. He just has trouble (or a stubborn refusal) admitting that other people have different opinions than his and his word isn't law.

I was just about to point that out, I may have only been here a short time and so I've only seen a few be nasty/swearing/personally attacking others, however Cubed is not one of them.

As for the thread in general, like others I think it's everywhere. As for this site, again I've not been on here long enough to say for sure, I've seen it but there's also a lot of reasonable discussion too. (can't speak for time past)

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, you missed all that movie drama and craziness. Pretty bad at times, but lets be honest... it could be pretty entertaining, too. At least if you don't try to take it too seriously.


This site is more like a half-grown angry puppy compared to some of the swamp monsters elsewhere on the internet.

[ToTheNines]

Ah man, this is from right after I got banned lol. I’ll have to read through this one on a rainy day.

[IndigoErth]

Isn't every fandom these days?

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

You equating feminism with toxicity is itself toxic and it's why I can't ****ing stand you

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

Feminism is not toxicity.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Feminism is not toxicity.

It certainly can be when it goes too far just like anything else.

[Sumac]

'Drome is not any more toxic than any other fandom. I'd say in many regards it is more lax. At least, when it comes to TMNT. As for relationships between people - it has nothing to do specifically with Turtles and more with just people being jerks.

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

It certainly can be when it goes too far just like anything else.

Then it stops being Feminism and becomes zealous ranting.

Originally Posted by sdp

The Booty Sig Scandal

Can we get it back? Please, with cherry on top.

[plastroncafe]

Saying something isn't any more toxic doesn't make it not toxic.

And I stay because leaving wouldn't be anywhere near as much fun.

[Wretched Reptile]

I've participated in many fandoms over many years. This is no different than anything else. Differing opinions is all well and good and completely normal. It's often the inability to "agree to disagree" (like everything else in life lol, look around you right now) that sparks the feeling of toxicity and the like.

I do think, however, that TMNT fans are far more passionate and opinionated than some other fandoms out there. And that's a good thing, no matter which side you fall on whatever argument. I'd rather someone passionately care immensely about something I disagree with to a certain extent in this fandom (or any other) than care nothing at all - because once you can't be bothered to care, this fandom and many others will inevitably die. And that's not what any of us wants, no matter what we might think on occasion otherwise. It's natural to be possessive of something you care tremendously about. We all have personal perspectives, feelings and memories tied up in all of this that belong to us and us alone. I think THAT often gets in the way of realizing not everyone can and will think of all this the exact same way you do. And why should they? And what fun would that ultimately end up being? It's interesting to see how a property like this has continued to enrich and touch people's lives in varying ways and how they feel about it years on.

I don't post all that often but I do lurk a lot and enjoy seeing the opinions and the energy on display here. It pleases me greatly that so many still care so much about these characters. That's the best feeling to me I can have regardless of the particulars at any given time. TMNT is alive and well and looks to continue to be so for a long, long time.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Saying something isn't any more toxic doesn't make it not toxic.

Not really. There is difference in toxicity between 'Drome and, say, 4Chan.

Besides, people nowadays call "toxic" anything that they don't like or that don't align with their ideas. So, in general, the word "toxicity" is overused and lost pretty much any serious meaning, like the words "offended", "outrage", e.t.c.

So question, how toxic this place is? IMO, not much.
It's just, as I said, people this days have become overzealous and want to put this label on everything that they don't like.

The better question would be, how much of 'Drome discussions they have seen or for how long they lurked here, before coming to such conclusion.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Feminism is not toxicity.

Sure about that?

[Bry]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Translation:
Wah! My safe space has been infiltrated by people I think are less than me and they demand I be treated as if they're my equals!

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Erm, yeah, what exactly is "feminist behavior" in this fandom? Wishing for a few more female mutants...?

Originally Posted by Sumac

Why is feminist behavior is insulting and where does it appear in relation to TMNT?

Especially considering that TMNT always had a sizable female fanbase.

I can tell you this much: if a community is swamped with certain members who're constantly whining about feminism or "SJWs" (and said whining is usually triggered by absolutely nothing at all), that's not a place I wanna spend a lot of time. It's especially bizarre in this place. Just insane, obsessive axe-grinding that some folks are just desperate to dreg up and fight over.

In general, dudes who sincerely use terms like "SJW" and "cuck" are just... not gonna be pleasant to talk to or be around at any point.